When are Herndon Middle and Herndon High going to get a break?!??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both FCPS and MCPS do a great job at covering for their criminals. Parents are afraid to go straight to the police if they don’t have hard evidence.
But guess what, y’all? Not your job to get to proof. But police need you to report who should be investigated for potential wrongdoing.

Exactly. This can't possibly be only happening at Herndon High. There are probably others doing this right now in the DMV schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both FCPS and MCPS do a great job at covering for their criminals. Parents are afraid to go straight to the police if they don’t have hard evidence.
But guess what, y’all? Not your job to get to proof. But police need you to report who should be investigated for potential wrongdoing.

What do you mean by "potential?"

Anyone you don't like. Someone who gives you the creeps?

Sorry. You have to have some evidence of wrongdoing. If the first au pair had reported it to the police, it would have been over long ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both FCPS and MCPS do a great job at covering for their criminals. Parents are afraid to go straight to the police if they don’t have hard evidence.
But guess what, y’all? Not your job to get to proof. But police need you to report who should be investigated for potential wrongdoing.

What do you mean by "potential?"

Anyone you don't like. Someone who gives you the creeps?

Sorry. You have to have some evidence of wrongdoing. If the first au pair had reported it to the police, it would have been over long ago.

Liar. The “investigators” find the evidence, not the concerned people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Increased FARMS
Falling test scores
ZERO aid from FCPS
Pedophile teachers https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7163099/T...ents-got-undressed-school.html


When is FCPS going to wake up and help the students and teachers at these two schools??

*hint* It will involve standing up to the bully parents at Langley and Carson regarding boundary changes

Ah, liberalism!

[Anonymous]

FCPS is paying for a major expansion of Herndon HS. I’ve seen the projections as to which high school will be the most overcrowded by FY 2023 and it isn’t Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increased FARMS
Falling test scores
ZERO aid from FCPS
Pedophile teachers https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7163099/T...ents-got-undressed-school.html


When is FCPS going to wake up and help the students and teachers at these two schools??

*hint* It will involve standing up to the bully parents at Langley and Carson regarding boundary changes

Ah, liberalism!

This would involve moving the Worldgate area out of Herndon back to MC nair and into Carson and Oakton, not Langley. Carson and Oakton have low poverty. Anyone at Coates should not go to Herndon but Oakton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increased FARMS
Falling test scores
ZERO aid from FCPS
Pedophile teachers https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7163099/T...ents-got-undressed-school.html


When is FCPS going to wake up and help the students and teachers at these two schools??

*hint* It will involve standing up to the bully parents at Langley and Carson regarding boundary changes

Ah, liberalism!

This would involve moving the Worldgate area out of Herndon back to MC nair and into Carson and Oakton, not Langley. Carson and Oakton have low poverty. Anyone at Coates should not go to Herndon but Oakton.

Oakton had over 2700 kids last year. Why would you think there is space for more kids who live in Herndon to go there?

Your view of “equity” seems to be grounded in the view that poor Hispanic kids are a problem and that they need to be redistributed to minimize their negative effects. It doesn’t seem to reflect any desire to help those kids or view they’d get a better education if they were bused to a school 10 miles away rather than 1-2 miles away. Have you asked their parents or guardians whether they want them sent to a school in Vienna (Oakton) instead?

[Anonymous]

When McNair was overcrowded, the decision was made to move these neighborhoods to Herndon ES. HES tanked immediately and remains one of the lowest performing schools in the state. The F/R rate went from 25ish to today's 64%. Is this a coincidence or would you agree that the low performance has something to do with the poverty? Money has been thrown at it for years. It's not the solution. Mc Nair used to be Title 1 before the boundary change. Now they're at less than 20% F/R. Carson MS is at 10%. Why can't boundaries be changed so that impoverished students are spread across more schools? The Herndon pyramid has most of the poverty in this area and if others help, more students can be reached.

[Anonymous]

Hutchison is at 83%, has a number of trailers and is closer to McNair. Some of these students should be rezoned into McNair once the expansion is done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When McNair was overcrowded, the decision was made to move these neighborhoods to Herndon ES. HES tanked immediately and remains one of the lowest performing schools in the state. The F/R rate went from 25ish to today's 64%. Is this a coincidence or would you agree that the low performance has something to do with the poverty? Money has been thrown at it for years. It's not the solution. Mc Nair used to be Title 1 before the boundary change. Now they're at less than 20% F/R. Carson MS is at 10%. Why can't boundaries be changed so that impoverished students are spread across more schools? The Herndon pyramid has most of the poverty in this area and if others help, more students can be reached.

+1

[Anonymous]

Why can't boundaries be changed so that impoverished students are spread across more schools? The Herndon pyramid has most of the poverty in this area and if others help, more students can be reached.

So, you are advocating busing?

Do you even know where Herndon Middle School is located? Right by all those "impoverished students" that you are talking about. So, you wish to take them out of a walkable school and put them on a bus.

Do you know what one of the biggest problems is for schools with impoverished students? It is getting parents involved in their education. Do you have any idea what busing does to these communities?
1. Rise in truancy.
2. Less parent involvement.
This results in lower achievement--it just adds to the issues already established.

How do I know this? Experience. I taught in a school that was bused many years ago. It was nearly impossible to get the parents to come to the school. If kids were running late and missed the bus, they didn't come to school. This was common.
Do you know what else? The "local" kids who lived in the neighborhood did not mix outside of school with the "bused" kids.

I understand your frustration, but your suggestion is ridiculous.

And, by the way, McNair kids do not go to Oakton. Pretty sure they never have.

[Anonymous]

PP wants to send kids from Herndon to Oakton? 27 minutes right now---and it is well past rush hour.

[Anonymous]

As was discussed a year or two ago based on some study (cant find the thread now), once the student population reaches a certain level of FARMS kids, the whole school suffers in terms of academic performance. Staying below that threshold results in raising "at risk" student scores without bringing down the scores of other students.

We are zoned for HES, Clearview (for AAP), HMS, and HHS. We have a great community, but as a recent PP pointed out, kids who get bussed from far off reaches of the school boundaries, don't mix much outside of school, and consequently, not as much inside school. Kids tend to socialize more with the kids from their neighborhoods. I see this at the AAP center and with the kids at HES grandfathered into the language immersion programs (French which ended with the graduating class & Spanish).

Plenty of good things happen in Herndon. It isn't perfect, and I see plenty of need for improvement, but it isn't the pit that some people make it out to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is sending losers to Carson and Langley going to help HMS/HHS? All that will do is make Carson and Langley worse.

At least it's a start in the right direction. It's finally time for equity.

It is totally unclear what "equity" is and how it will be achieved by sending kids to Carson and Langley.

[Anonymous]

As was discussed a year or two ago based on some study (cant find the thread now), once the student population reaches a certain level of FARMS kids, the whole school suffers in terms of academic performance. Staying below that threshold results in raising "at risk" student scores without bringing down the scores of other students.

Uh huh. And even accepting that questionable premise, what are you going to do when you run out of white kids who are needed to keep the proportion of non-FARMS kids above the magic level? That day is coming - and soon, thanks to the crazed Democrat insistence on open borders.