When are Herndon Middle and Herndon High going to get a break?!??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is, the local Democratic party had better advise the board to fix McLean and Langley if they want any hope of winning Dranesville.

I don't know how much other pyramids are concerned about the stopping of boundary studies in their districts but we are not happy.

I only know parents in two other Fairfax county high schools. One has no crowding but the other does.

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Most people are clueless as to what our School Board does. Just look at the issues they will spend time on.

Sadly, if your name is on the "D" list for the election, our SB will continue this direction.

They spend far too much time on issues that have no impact on education but promote their political activism.

I have no problem with promoting environmental care, but Pat Hynes is more interested in that than in educating the kids.

Ryan McElveen is so involved in activism that he wants kids to be able to take a day off to go protest guns.

Others are obsessed with transgender kids. We do need to have compassion and understanding---but do you really think that using the desired bathroom is going to generate that?
Is this a policy that needed to be debated? They could have let it be decided discreetly at the local level. The principals know their own schools best.

And, school names. They could have just dropped the Jeb and let it move on in a generic manner. But, no, they had to create division in the community with constantly changing policies on how it would be determined. First, they wanted to do what the community wanted. The community did not want the change. So, we came up with a different policy and then another and another.

If the R’s want to run on a platform of denying climate change, arming school teachers, discriminating against LBGTQ kids, and continuing to honor the Confederacy in our schools, more power to them. I don’t think that is pedagogically wise or politically smart.

[Anonymous]

A CIP amendment to authorize a Langley/McLean boundary study is on the agenda for both the 9/12 and 9/26 Board meetings.

Because at least some of them realize we are fed up.

Aren't one or two of them running for the Board of Supervisors?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t care how poor or rich are the kids sitting next to their kid, nor what race they are, but people do care very much about the quality of education their kids are receiving. If you try to put my kid in a bad school, I’ll switch him to private school and will vote “no” on every school bond vote to come, since you literally forced my hand. How would that help a school with poor performance? If you are so interested in improving a school by rezoning other people’s kids, put your own kid in a bad school and then discuss how the quality of his education is unchanged.

I love these threats! Please go! You’re kid is not some gift to the world.

I beg to differ. All you liberals who want to move the FARM kids to other schools - because "equity" - are doing so precisely because you think my kid (and the other intelligent white kids) are going to give the FARM kids the magical gift of better grades and test scores through osmosis or something. I don't know why you think it's my kid's job to make poor kid's lives better, but I certainly don't agree that it is.

And of course, as soon as the UMC white parents start putting their kids in private schools, the liberals will whine about the racists "abandoning" the public school system...

Many who consider themselves liberal put their kids in private school as well.

Look at New York city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is, the local Democratic party had better advise the board to fix McLean and Langley if they want any hope of winning Dranesville.

I don't know how much other pyramids are concerned about the stopping of boundary studies in their districts but we are not happy.

I only know parents in two other Fairfax county high schools. One has no crowding but the other does.

Idle threat, really. There are three candidates running for School Board from Dranesville. All three live in the Langley district. All three support keeping all of the neighborhoods currently zoned for Langley there and doing something about the McLean overcrowding. Two regularly attack One Fairfax, the Democrat does not.

Dranesville generally votes Democratic and the two anti-One Fairfax candidates (one from Great Falls and the other from McLean) will likely split the votes of more conservative voters and ensure Tholen’s election. If Mobasheri pulls out and there is a higher turnout from the Langley/McLean areas than from the Herndon/Marshall areas, Karloutsos might have a shot.

The at-large contests are more interesting. A lot of Dranesville voters may cross party lines for those seats, but Dranesville is just one of the nine magisterial districts in the county.

As some pointed out earlier, Tholen would be going against what most of her neighbors want if she was on the side of moving GF out of Langley.

So who wins Dranesville probably won't matter for that.

If the vote goes against doing the McLean Langley study she should of course publicly disagree. If she does not, 2/3 of the high schools in the district will not be happy.

School board hasn't been this interesting in a little while.

The Langley/McLean CIP amendment doesn’t get put on the calendar unless Strauss thinks she has the votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is, the local Democratic party had better advise the board to fix McLean and Langley if they want any hope of winning Dranesville.

I don't know how much other pyramids are concerned about the stopping of boundary studies in their districts but we are not happy.

I only know parents in two other Fairfax county high schools. One has no crowding but the other does.

I

Most people are clueless as to what our School Board does. Just look at the issues they will spend time on.

Sadly, if your name is on the "D" list for the election, our SB will continue this direction.

They spend far too much time on issues that have no impact on education but promote their political activism.

I have no problem with promoting environmental care, but Pat Hynes is more interested in that than in educating the kids.

Ryan McElveen is so involved in activism that he wants kids to be able to take a day off to go protest guns.

Others are obsessed with transgender kids. We do need to have compassion and understanding---but do you really think that using the desired bathroom is going to generate that?
Is this a policy that needed to be debated? They could have let it be decided discreetly at the local level. The principals know their own schools best.

And, school names. They could have just dropped the Jeb and let it move on in a generic manner. But, no, they had to create division in the community with constantly changing policies on how it would be determined. First, they wanted to do what the community wanted. The community did not want the change. So, we came up with a different policy and then another and another.

If the R’s want to run on a platform of denying climate change, arming school teachers, discriminating against LBGTQ kids, and continuing to honor the Confederacy in our schools, more power to them. I don’t think that is pedagogically wise or politically smart.

What? Responsible resource stewardship and academics. This county has a big problem when Democrats on the Board of Supervisors dispute the necessity of capacity enhancements in their own magisterial district. That is where we are today with West Potomac. Could buildings have gotten connecting walkways? Yes. The construction has grown to an architectural marvel. Take 6 schools, use program capacity, and 2021 projected enrollment from the FCPS dashboard.

West Potomac+Mount Vernon+Hayfield+Edison+Lee+ South County> 412 surplus. 1181 surplus including West Potomac addition.
Langley+ Mclean>40 surplus.
Langley+Mclean+Marshall+Madison+Herndon+South Lakes>304 deficit. 339 surplus including Madison addition.

FCSB is so far from who gets to use what indoor plumbing...it's at if do students have indoor plumbing.

One Fairfax has changed nothing except wasting money by not using bricks and mortar. No equity in resource allocation.

[Anonymous]

68 pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is, the local Democratic party had better advise the board to fix McLean and Langley if they want any hope of winning Dranesville.

I don't know how much other pyramids are concerned about the stopping of boundary studies in their districts but we are not happy.

I only know parents in two other Fairfax county high schools. One has no crowding but the other does.

I

Most people are clueless as to what our School Board does. Just look at the issues they will spend time on.

Sadly, if your name is on the "D" list for the election, our SB will continue this direction.

They spend far too much time on issues that have no impact on education but promote their political activism.

I have no problem with promoting environmental care, but Pat Hynes is more interested in that than in educating the kids.

Ryan McElveen is so involved in activism that he wants kids to be able to take a day off to go protest guns.

Others are obsessed with transgender kids. We do need to have compassion and understanding---but do you really think that using the desired bathroom is going to generate that?
Is this a policy that needed to be debated? They could have let it be decided discreetly at the local level. The principals know their own schools best.

And, school names. They could have just dropped the Jeb and let it move on in a generic manner. But, no, they had to create division in the community with constantly changing policies on how it would be determined. First, they wanted to do what the community wanted. The community did not want the change. So, we came up with a different policy and then another and another.

If the R’s want to run on a platform of denying climate change, arming school teachers, discriminating against LBGTQ kids, and continuing to honor the Confederacy in our schools, more power to them. I don’t think that is pedagogically wise or politically smart.

What? Responsible resource stewardship and academics. This county has a big problem when Democrats on the Board of Supervisors dispute the necessity of capacity enhancements in their own magisterial district. That is where we are today with West Potomac. Could buildings have gotten connecting walkways? Yes. The construction has grown to an architectural marvel. Take 6 schools, use program capacity, and 2021 projected enrollment from the FCPS dashboard.

West Potomac+Mount Vernon+Hayfield+Edison+Lee+ South County> 412 surplus. 1181 surplus including West Potomac addition.
Langley+ Mclean>40 surplus.
Langley+Mclean+Marshall+Madison+Herndon+South Lakes>304 deficit. 339 surplus including Madison addition.

FCSB is so far from who gets to use what indoor plumbing...it's at if do students have indoor plumbing.

One Fairfax has changed nothing except wasting money by not using bricks and mortar. No equity in resource allocation.

You honestly cannot write or reason your way out of a paper bag.

The dynamic that has led to the capacity imbalances and excessive building is fear on the part of FCPS of ever antagonizing higher-income families.

Properly interpreted and administered, One Fairfax is a tool that gives the School Board and FCPS staff the backbone to do what they should have been doing all along.

Will they meet that challenge? Maybe yes, or maybe no, but if they keep failing to use their existing facilities efficiently it won’t be because of One Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

If they properly interpreted and administered their current policy there would be no improper building and fewer capacity problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they properly interpreted and administered their current policy there would be no improper building and fewer capacity problems.

Yes. It seem like all this talk about Herndon/Langley is a red herring. The real issue is Mount Vernon/West Potomac.

Where would Langley get its enrollment if Great Falls were removed? I don't live anywhere near either of those schools, but I can look at a map.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they properly interpreted and administered their current policy there would be no improper building and fewer capacity problems.

Yes. It seem like all this talk about Herndon/Langley is a red herring. The real issue is Mount Vernon/West Potomac.

Where would Langley get its enrollment if Great Falls were removed? I don't live anywhere near either of those schools, but I can look at a map.

If a new high school is built in western Fairfax, not all of Great Falls (22066) would move from Langley to Herndon. The Forestville ES area would move and perhaps part of Great Falls ES would move. The rest of Great Falls ES and Colvin Run ES, which also are attended by Great Falls students, would stay at Langley, and Langley could pick up some areas now at Mclean and Marshall.

The West Potomac/Mount Vernon issue is a very real issue, but if the fall bond referendum that allocates $22.3M to the expansion of West Potomac gets passed, as every school bond has been for the past gazillion years, the current West Po/MV boundaries will be locked in for a very long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t care how poor or rich are the kids sitting next to their kid, nor what race they are, but people do care very much about the quality of education their kids are receiving. If you try to put my kid in a bad school, I’ll switch him to private school and will vote “no” on every school bond vote to come, since you literally forced my hand. How would that help a school with poor performance? If you are so interested in improving a school by rezoning other people’s kids, put your own kid in a bad school and then discuss how the quality of his education is unchanged.

I love these threats! Please go! You’re kid is not some gift to the world.

I beg to differ. All you liberals who want to move the FARM kids to other schools - because "equity" - are doing so precisely because you think my kid (and the other intelligent white kids) are going to give the FARM kids the magical gift of better grades and test scores through osmosis or something. I don't know why you think it's my kid's job to make poor kid's lives better, but I certainly don't agree that it is.

And of course, as soon as the UMC white parents start putting their kids in private schools, the liberals will whine about the racists "abandoning" the public school system...

Many who consider themselves liberal put their kids in private school as well.

Look at New York city.

Liberals - only as long as it's other people's money and other people's kids...

[Anonymous]

Given that conservatives would gut public education generally (e.g., Betsy DeVos), I’ll take liberals who don’t always live up to their ideals over the Tea Party and/or Trump crowd who don’t give a crap over other people’s kids, especially if they are the wrong color or class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that conservatives would gut public education generally (e.g., Betsy DeVos), I’ll take liberals who don’t always live up to their ideals over the Tea Party and/or Trump crowd who don’t give a crap over other people’s kids, especially if they are the wrong color or class.

No one wants to gut public education, including Betsy DeVos. They want to give people who are not satisfied with the education their kids are receiving an alternative. There are schools that are not educating kids. You would have to be blind not to see that. We frequently read about it in the Washington Post.

NCLB was an attempt to fix it. Common Core is an attempt to fix it. Neither are the answer. The answer is not testing. It is teaching. But, it starts at birth and that is the problem. We are blaming schools. It is true that there are failing schools, but those usually begin with failing homes.

I don't have the answer. I just see the problem. I've "lived this" as a teacher. Try teaching in the projects.

[Anonymous]

I read that teachers are judged in scores and not the improvement in the students scores.

Is that true?

I think if a teacher helps get a 7th grader who is at a 3rd grade math level in September up to 5th grade by June, that should be celebrated. Teacher shouldn't be asked why the kid isn't on grade level.

The fact is, kids whose parents put more into them 0-5 are going to achieve at a higher level than parents who did less ?even if they did their best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that conservatives would gut public education generally (e.g., Betsy DeVos), I’ll take liberals who don’t always live up to their ideals over the Tea Party and/or Trump crowd who don’t give a crap over other people’s kids, especially if they are the wrong color or class.

Liberals have controlled public education for decades... education has not improved, and there is an ever-increasing level of bullshit liberal ideological indoctrination in schools. Why does it surprise you that conservatives are sick of paying for a system that (a) doesn't work, and (b) propagandizes kids to hate what their parents believe?