School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

They can't. He might be "in a certain situation" (before all this), which gives him more "protections" and his parents have more say, if they know the loopholes.

Also, 4th Amendment - schools can't just search and seize property. Same reason Langley and other high schools got rid of lockers. Not worth the hassle with bad kids and their bad parents.

As we have seen here, where do you think these kids learn their behaviors?

1) they had reasonable suspicion to search backpack
2)even without a search, they could have should have notified police, made a report, and had the kid brought home (for to a psych hospital). But they school didn’t because the parents were being a PIA and they thought it would just be easier to send him back to class than to poke a hornets nest (the ahole parents)

The PARENTS should have insisted on searching the backpack. If I’m sitting in a principals office with my husband and kid, having this discussion about disturbing drawings, my first thought would be….mmmmm… and hubby bought junior a gun, just four days ago. Sweetie I’m fine if you want to stay at school today but let’s just look in your backpack and make sure nothing is there that shouldn’t be. And if he refuses to open it? Well, we do have a problem

How hard is this, for parents who are rational and connected to their kids?

It isn’t hard but these aren’t those parents. These parents likely helped him plan his attack. They bought the weapon. They knew he was searching ammo. They insisted he stay on school after being shown his drawings. You could say that by doing those things at school where a teacher could see, the student might have been crying out for help. I think his parents helped him plan it and possibly convinced or coerced him to do it.

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Nailed it. I absolutely believe this. There were parents in our school like this - kid had anger issues, parent was triggered, parent taught kid to be triggered and violent. Powder keg waiting to explode. Instead of getting the kid professional help, the parent thought it would be "cool" to teach the violent kid how to physically hurt other students. Big family, too. I can only imagine the powder keg that is that family and their house (not home, house). For some parents, it's all about them - like how this couple fled and left the shooter behind. Rational and connected people don't think like them or understand how selfish some people are.

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Go to any low income high school and the many of the parents are substances abusers, out of work (or working several jobs and not around), have no idea what kids are up to, and have guns at home. But these kids aren’t shooting randomly at school. What is it about THIS kid that caused it. Poor parents and access to guns describes a whole lot of teens unfortunately

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Anonymous wrote:They're on the run in Detroit proper, east side of Detroit? I suspected all week they're drug addicts. Opioid crisis has slaughter over 3,000 in Michigan this year alone.

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They certainly seem like they are familiar with that type of lifestyle.

Dude. They are on the east side becuase they were trying to get to Canada. They lived 50 miles away, in a community that was overwhelmingly white and middle class. The mom was a real estate agent, the dad was worked in the technology industry.

Stop trying to make this about Black people.

They are poor and uneducated. They are not middle class. They live in a dump. Oxford has a lot of white trash run down sections of town.

I mean, their house looks FINE to me? It's not Bethesda beautiful, but it's a pretty common home in the Oakland County exurbs.

That’s a dump. They probably paid literally <$75k for it.

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Anonymous wrote:The mom was not a realtor, she had a license for it years ago, it’s apparentpy long lapsed. It’s pretty obvious from their crummy jobs or lack thereof, their crummy house, their behavior, and their kid’s neglect they’re some sort of addicts. Maybe just booze but that area is a hotbed for opioids, meth, heroin.

Could either of them hold a job??

Great examples, great parents. Should have never bred.

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Anonymous wrote:They're on the run in Detroit proper, east side of Detroit? I suspected all week they're drug addicts. Opioid crisis has slaughter over 3,000 in Michigan this year alone.

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They certainly seem like they are familiar with that type of lifestyle.

Dude. They are on the east side becuase they were trying to get to Canada. They lived 50 miles away, in a community that was overwhelmingly white and middle class. The mom was a real estate agent, the dad was worked in the technology industry.

Stop trying to make this about Black people.

They are poor and uneducated. They are not middle class. They live in a dump. Oxford has a lot of white trash run down sections of town.

I mean, their house looks FINE to me? It's not Bethesda beautiful, but it's a pretty common home in the Oakland County exurbs.

That’s a dump. They probably paid literally <$75k for it.

So now we’re going back to “economic anxiety”

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Anonymous wrote:They're on the run in Detroit proper, east side of Detroit? I suspected all week they're drug addicts. Opioid crisis has slaughter over 3,000 in Michigan this year alone.

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They certainly seem like they are familiar with that type of lifestyle.

Dude. They are on the east side becuase they were trying to get to Canada. They lived 50 miles away, in a community that was overwhelmingly white and middle class. The mom was a real estate agent, the dad was worked in the technology industry.

Stop trying to make this about Black people.

They are poor and uneducated. They are not middle class. They live in a dump. Oxford has a lot of white trash run down sections of town.

I mean, their house looks FINE to me? It's not Bethesda beautiful, but it's a pretty common home in the Oakland County exurbs.

That’s a dump. They probably paid literally <$75k for it.

So now we’re going back to “economic anxiety”

How much would that house be in Pimmit Hills?

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Anonymous wrote:Did the kid have a freshman year of high school or was he at home alone all day alone doing virtual? Sounds like he likely went off the rails and was radicalized recently — probably by 24/7 access to Internet and the solitude of virtual learning.

Y’all will do absolutely anything to avoid admitting entitled angry white parental raise violent entitled angry white sons.

Including judging by the look of their modest house. I know a lot of people that live in homes like the one pictured but they are immaculate and raise good kids.

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Anonymous wrote:They're on the run in Detroit proper, east side of Detroit? I suspected all week they're drug addicts. Opioid crisis has slaughter over 3,000 in Michigan this year alone.

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They certainly seem like they are familiar with that type of lifestyle.

Dude. They are on the east side becuase they were trying to get to Canada. They lived 50 miles away, in a community that was overwhelmingly white and middle class. The mom was a real estate agent, the dad was worked in the technology industry.

Stop trying to make this about Black people.

They are poor and uneducated. They are not middle class. They live in a dump. Oxford has a lot of white trash run down sections of town.

I mean, their house looks FINE to me? It's not Bethesda beautiful, but it's a pretty common home in the Oakland County exurbs.

That’s a dump. They probably paid literally <$75k for it.

So now we’re going back to “economic anxiety”

How much would that house be in Pimmit Hills?

Who cares. The house didn’t kill people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

They can't. He might be "in a certain situation" (before all this), which gives him more "protections" and his parents have more say, if they know the loopholes.

Also, 4th Amendment - schools can't just search and seize property. Same reason Langley and other high schools got rid of lockers. Not worth the hassle with bad kids and their bad parents.

As we have seen here, where do you think these kids learn their behaviors?

1) they had reasonable suspicion to search backpack
2)even without a search, they could have should have notified police, made a report, and had the kid brought home (for to a psych hospital). But they school didn’t because the parents were being a PIA and they thought it would just be easier to send him back to class than to poke a hornets nest (the ahole parents)

The PARENTS should have insisted on searching the backpack. If I’m sitting in a principals office with my husband and kid, having this discussion about disturbing drawings, my first thought would be….mmmmm… and hubby bought junior a gun, just four days ago. Sweetie I’m fine if you want to stay at school today but let’s just look in your backpack and make sure nothing is there that shouldn’t be. And if he refuses to open it? Well, we do have a problem

How hard is this, for parents who are rational and connected to their kids?

Look, no one is excusing the horrible parents and their behavior. But the buck should have stopped at the school and the school had the authority and means to search the backpack AND/OR call the police when parents failed to remove him. But the didn’t. They dropped the ball when the potentially could have changed the trajectory of what happened

THIS. The school has a duty to protect the other students. I’d be suing the hell out of the school district and the administrators who failed the other students of the school. They have rights too.

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The child had explosive anger issues, and he was radicalized at home. His parents may not have been DC wealthy, but they were rich enough to buy him a $1K gun for Christmas. Let's put the blame where it goes here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're on the run in Detroit proper, east side of Detroit? I suspected all week they're drug addicts. Opioid crisis has slaughter over 3,000 in Michigan this year alone.

+1

They certainly seem like they are familiar with that type of lifestyle.

Dude. They are on the east side becuase they were trying to get to Canada. They lived 50 miles away, in a community that was overwhelmingly white and middle class. The mom was a real estate agent, the dad was worked in the technology industry.

Stop trying to make this about Black people.

They are poor and uneducated. They are not middle class. They live in a dump. Oxford has a lot of white trash run down sections of town.

I mean, their house looks FINE to me? It's not Bethesda beautiful, but it's a pretty common home in the Oakland County exurbs.

That’s a dump. They probably paid literally <$75k for it.

So now we’re going back to “economic anxiety”

What about all the other families in the other houses you can see (and not see) on this road? Why did their kids NOT do this while living in "a dump"? And I agree...headed for Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did the kid have a freshman year of high school or was he at home alone all day alone doing virtual? Sounds like he likely went off the rails and was radicalized recently — probably by 24/7 access to Internet and the solitude of virtual learning.

Y’all will do absolutely anything to avoid admitting entitled angry white parental raise violent entitled angry white sons.

Including judging by the look of their modest house. I know a lot of people that live in homes like the one pictured but they are immaculate and raise good kids.

I'm the one who posted the house and that was my point. Some folks want to blame this on poverty, but the actual issue is access to a gun. In all of the school shootings that we've had, this is the first I can remember where the gun wasn't just taken from the home but was rather gifted by the parents to the child in the weeks before the attack and during a clear mental health crisis.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

The amount of ignorance and misogyny being spread in this post is disgusting. PP you are an uneducated dunce.

Honestly, he looks like every other teenage boy. This age is filled with arrogance and eye rolling. I’ve seen the same look on my son’s face when I get on him to finish chores. Or the teenagers on his soccer team when I tell them to pick up all the cones after practice. I know they are really thinking “leave me the f alone”, but they do what they are told. You can’t tell “low IQ” or anything.

This is no eyeroll.

Everyone looks "off" in a mug shot. Regardless of what puts them in that situation-- big crime or small, chronic offender or one-off bad act-- they are generally freaked out and exhausted. It's silly to read anything into this photo. We have plenty of other info about this kid to consider and judge.

And facial deformity PP-- You have a toe on a slippery slope to eugenics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did the kid have a freshman year of high school or was he at home alone all day alone doing virtual? Sounds like he likely went off the rails and was radicalized recently — probably by 24/7 access to Internet and the solitude of virtual learning.

Y’all will do absolutely anything to avoid admitting entitled angry white parental raise violent entitled angry white sons.

Including judging by the look of their modest house. I know a lot of people that live in homes like the one pictured but they are immaculate and raise good kids.

I'm the one who posted the house and that was my point. Some folks want to blame this on poverty, but the actual issue is access to a gun. In all of the school shootings that we've had, this is the first I can remember where the gun wasn't just taken from the home but was rather gifted by the parents to the child in the weeks before the attack and during a clear mental health crisis.

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The issue is absolutely NOT poverty - I know wealthy parents who have created the same in their house. It's bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did the kid have a freshman year of high school or was he at home alone all day alone doing virtual? Sounds like he likely went off the rails and was radicalized recently — probably by 24/7 access to Internet and the solitude of virtual learning.

Y’all will do absolutely anything to avoid admitting entitled angry white parental raise violent entitled angry white sons.

Including judging by the look of their modest house. I know a lot of people that live in homes like the one pictured but they are immaculate and raise good kids.

I'm the one who posted the house and that was my point. Some folks want to blame this on poverty, but the actual issue is access to a gun. In all of the school shootings that we've had, this is the first I can remember where the gun wasn't just taken from the home but was rather gifted by the parents to the child in the weeks before the attack and during a clear mental health crisis.

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The issue is absolutely NOT poverty - I know wealthy parents who have created the same in their house. It's bad.

Absolutely. Case in point - Nancy Lanza. Total enabler.