UVA student missing

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Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Where are you guys getting any info that JM had anything to do with drugs, let alone selling them to Hannah or someone else?

Pp, were you not aware that all black men are drug dealers?

I am not aware that all black men are drug dealers. However, I am aware that there are a lot of paranoid idiots out there. If JM is cleared in this case, I hope he subpoenas and sues all you idiots for slander.

Good lord people, some of you are like some phony infomercial detective straight from a Simpson's episode.

Remember Richard Jewel and the Atlanta Olympic bombings? He was there but then became a suspect. Eventually cleared.

If this guy has nothing to hide, why did he flee Charlottesville at high speed?

Because when you are black and a white girl is missing and the police know you were one of the last people to see her, you can see the writing on the wall?

I'm not saying he is innocent, but certainly in this country many innocent black men have been blamed for crimes against white women they had nothing to do with.

I don't really understand why, if he were guilty, he would have hung around for so long after and even voluntarily shown up at the police station.

The police chief does seem very emotionally involved and lacking emotional detachment in a way that does not always go hand in hand with careful and methodical police work.

Even with all of this said, to me the most likely explanation is that the suspect with the dreds was involved somehow just because he was the last one to see her and he DID flee. I hope this story takes a weird turn and she is found alive and healthy, maybe just in a like fugue state or disoriented.

Do you always live in an alternate reality? They wouldn't charge them unless they had evidence she was in the car with him.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Have you never heard of police manufacturing evidence against people, particularly black people, in high profile cases? Or witnesses misidentifying people, particularly black people? Like, NONE of the guys who went to jail for the Central Park jogger rape 20 odd years ago were actually the slightest bit guilty? NONE. Which one of us is living in an alternate reality again? Wake up!

(Fwiw, I am a white woman and a lawyer.)

[Anonymous]

I did not allow my daughter to go to UVA because of the string of women gone missing, along the Route 29 corridor, over the last 20 years, in that area. Remember the Route 29 Stalker..... Something really wrong is going on there and it started long before this one case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not allow my daughter to go to UVA because of the string of women gone missing, along the Route 29 corridor, over the last 20 years, in that area. Remember the Route 29 Stalker..... Something really wrong is going on there and it started long before this one case.

Way to live in fear rather than empower your daughter. Where, pray tell, did you send her instead?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did not allow my daughter to go to UVA because of the string of women gone missing, along the Route 29 corridor, over the last 20 years, in that area. Remember the Route 29 Stalker..... Something really wrong is going on there and it started long before this one case.

Way to live in fear rather than empower your daughter. Where, pray tell, did you send her instead?

I'm curious too - where can one be certain of 100% safety?

[Anonymous]

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Do you always live in an alternate reality? They wouldn't charge them unless they had evidence she was in the car with him.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Have you never heard of police manufacturing evidence against people, particularly black people, in high profile cases? Or witnesses misidentifying people, particularly black people? Like, NONE of the guys who went to jail for the Central Park jogger rape 20 odd years ago were actually the slightest bit guilty? NONE. Which one of us is living in an alternate reality again? Wake up!

(Fwiw, I am a white woman and a lawyer.)

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Thanks for stating this reality which many people are either not aware of or just don't want to recognize.

If you are a black man and there is a hint of evidence that you were in any way involved with a white woman who disappeared, you are dealing with a stacked deck. If you don't know this then you are living in an alternate universe. Racism is alive and well in this country when it comes to black people and the police - and especially a black man who is allegedly involved in the disappearance of a white woman.

I have no idea if JM is guilty or not but I don't blame him one iota for wanting to make sure that he is not railroaded by the police in what is becoming an increasingly high profile case. To make matters worse you have a chief of police who is less than dispassionate in the way he is approaching this case which also makes the investigation questionable.

I understand that the abduction charge could be something as broad as him being seen leaving with her and because she had been drinking, she may not have been in control of her faculties as opposed to being forced to leave with him. Keep in mind he is not charged with defiling her but with the INTENT to defile. So the police are really going out on a limb - assuming the abduction charge is based on leaving with an inebriated 18 year old for whom he bought drinks - and thereafter intended to defile her.

[Anonymous]

Anyone wonder if the lawyer he spoke to has shared any info?

[Anonymous]

It's so strange that none of Hannah's friends have been interviewed by the press, nobody who knows Matthew and can speak about his life, etc...
Usually in cases like this there's more information, more voices...unless I'm missing something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Where are you guys getting any info that JM had anything to do with drugs, let alone selling them to Hannah or someone else?

Pp, were you not aware that all black men are drug dealers?

I am not aware that all black men are drug dealers. However, I am aware that there are a lot of paranoid idiots out there. If JM is cleared in this case, I hope he subpoenas and sues all you idiots for slander.

Good lord people, some of you are like some phony infomercial detective straight from a Simpson's episode.

Remember Richard Jewel and the Atlanta Olympic bombings? He was there but then became a suspect. Eventually cleared.

If this guy has nothing to hide, why did he flee Charlottesville at high speed?

Because when you are black and a white girl is missing and the police know you were one of the last people to see her, you can see the writing on the wall?

I'm not saying he is innocent, but certainly in this country many innocent black men have been blamed for crimes against white women they had nothing to do with.

I don't really understand why, if he were guilty, he would have hung around for so long after and even voluntarily shown up at the police station.

The police chief does seem very emotionally involved and lacking emotional detachment in a way that does not always go hand in hand with careful and methodical police work.

Even with all of this said, to me the most likely explanation is that the suspect with the dreds was involved somehow just because he was the last one to see her and he DID flee. I hope this story takes a weird turn and she is found alive and healthy, maybe just in a like fugue state or disoriented.

Do you always live in an alternate reality? They wouldn't charge them unless they had evidence she was in the car with him.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Have you never heard of police manufacturing evidence against people, particularly black people, in high profile cases? Or witnesses misidentifying people, particularly black people? Like, NONE of the guys who went to jail for the Central Park jogger rape 20 odd years ago were actually the slightest bit guilty? NONE. Which one of us is living in an alternate reality again? Wake up!

(Fwiw, I am a white woman and a lawyer.)

Read the article in the Post today. The Charlottesville police chief is highly respected, considered very fair. A chief's chief.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not allow my daughter to go to UVA because of the string of women gone missing, along the Route 29 corridor, over the last 20 years, in that area. Remember the Route 29 Stalker..... Something really wrong is going on there and it started long before this one case.

Way to live in fear rather than empower your daughter. Where, pray tell, did you send her instead?

I'm curious too - where can one be certain of 100% safety?

LOL thats stupid, NOT sending your child to a dangerous area to go to school when you dont have to makes sense to me. 20 years of similar styled violence and murder against women there and nothing is done to acknowledge the problem and thats okay but, an American gets their head cut off in another country and you want to bomb it.

[Anonymous]

I think his lawyer said "you are looking at 30 years ..." and he fled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Where are you guys getting any info that JM had anything to do with drugs, let alone selling them to Hannah or someone else?

Pp, were you not aware that all black men are drug dealers?

I am not aware that all black men are drug dealers. However, I am aware that there are a lot of paranoid idiots out there. If JM is cleared in this case, I hope he subpoenas and sues all you idiots for slander.

Good lord people, some of you are like some phony infomercial detective straight from a Simpson's episode.

Remember Richard Jewel and the Atlanta Olympic bombings? He was there but then became a suspect. Eventually cleared.

If this guy has nothing to hide, why did he flee Charlottesville at high speed?

Because when you are black and a white girl is missing and the police know you were one of the last people to see her, you can see the writing on the wall?

I'm not saying he is innocent, but certainly in this country many innocent black men have been blamed for crimes against white women they had nothing to do with.

I don't really understand why, if he were guilty, he would have hung around for so long after and even voluntarily shown up at the police station.

The police chief does seem very emotionally involved and lacking emotional detachment in a way that does not always go hand in hand with careful and methodical police work.

Even with all of this said, to me the most likely explanation is that the suspect with the dreds was involved somehow just because he was the last one to see her and he DID flee. I hope this story takes a weird turn and she is found alive and healthy, maybe just in a like fugue state or disoriented.

Do you always live in an alternate reality? They wouldn't charge them unless they had evidence she was in the car with him.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Have you never heard of police manufacturing evidence against people, particularly black people, in high profile cases? Or witnesses misidentifying people, particularly black people? Like, NONE of the guys who went to jail for the Central Park jogger rape 20 odd years ago were actually the slightest bit guilty? NONE. Which one of us is living in an alternate reality again? Wake up!

(Fwiw, I am a white woman and a lawyer.)

Yeah, no one else ever manufactures "evidence." Right, Tawana Brawley and "Reverend" Al Sharpton??!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's so strange that none of Hannah's friends have been interviewed by the press, nobody who knows Matthew and can speak about his life, etc...
Usually in cases like this there's more information, more voices...unless I'm missing something.

True. It's possible that the police have asked them not to speak to the press?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do you always live in an alternate reality? They wouldn't charge them unless they had evidence she was in the car with him.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Have you never heard of police manufacturing evidence against people, particularly black people, in high profile cases? Or witnesses misidentifying people, particularly black people? Like, NONE of the guys who went to jail for the Central Park jogger rape 20 odd years ago were actually the slightest bit guilty? NONE. Which one of us is living in an alternate reality again? Wake up!

(Fwiw, I am a white woman and a lawyer.)

+1

Thanks for stating this reality which many people are either not aware of or just don't want to recognize.

If you are a black man and there is a hint of evidence that you were in any way involved with a white woman who disappeared, you are dealing with a stacked deck. If you don't know this then you are living in an alternate universe. Racism is alive and well in this country when it comes to black people and the police - and especially a black man who is allegedly involved in the disappearance of a white woman.

I have no idea if JM is guilty or not but I don't blame him one iota for wanting to make sure that he is not railroaded by the police in what is becoming an increasingly high profile case. To make matters worse you have a chief of police who is less than dispassionate in the way he is approaching this case which also makes the investigation questionable.

I understand that the abduction charge could be something as broad as him being seen leaving with her and because she had been drinking, she may not have been in control of her faculties as opposed to being forced to leave with him. Keep in mind he is not charged with defiling her but with the INTENT to defile. So the police are really going out on a limb - assuming the abduction charge is based on leaving with an inebriated 18 year old for whom he bought drinks - and thereafter intended to defile her.

I read that the fleeing suspect used to play college football. Maybe he should try to get in the NFL. Then, regardless of race, you usually get a pass when there are allegations of violence or other illegal conduct with a woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not allow my daughter to go to UVA because of the string of women gone missing, along the Route 29 corridor, over the last 20 years, in that area. Remember the Route 29 Stalker..... Something really wrong is going on there and it started long before this one case.

Way to live in fear rather than empower your daughter. Where, pray tell, did you send her instead?

I'm curious too - where can one be certain of 100% safety?

I don't think anyone said anything about being 100% safe. Rather the question is why would you want to be in an area where women are disappearing and/or being murdered, based on a 20yr history of that kind of activity occurring and, those cases remain unsolved. I don't see people running over to live in high crime areas and send their kids to public school there if the don't have to. Why is the problem the ongoing disappearances not being addressed? I'll respond as OMG I didn't realized that there have been so many abductions and murders of young women in that area, what is going on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I missing something? Where are you guys getting any info that JM had anything to do with drugs, let alone selling them to Hannah or someone else?

Pp, were you not aware that all black men are drug dealers?

I am not aware that all black men are drug dealers. However, I am aware that there are a lot of paranoid idiots out there. If JM is cleared in this case, I hope he subpoenas and sues all you idiots for slander.

Good lord people, some of you are like some phony infomercial detective straight from a Simpson's episode.

Remember Richard Jewel and the Atlanta Olympic bombings? He was there but then became a suspect. Eventually cleared.

If this guy has nothing to hide, why did he flee Charlottesville at high speed?

Because when you are black and a white girl is missing and the police know you were one of the last people to see her, you can see the writing on the wall?

I'm not saying he is innocent, but certainly in this country many innocent black men have been blamed for crimes against white women they had nothing to do with.

I don't really understand why, if he were guilty, he would have hung around for so long after and even voluntarily shown up at the police station.

The police chief does seem very emotionally involved and lacking emotional detachment in a way that does not always go hand in hand with careful and methodical police work.

Even with all of this said, to me the most likely explanation is that the suspect with the dreds was involved somehow just because he was the last one to see her and he DID flee. I hope this story takes a weird turn and she is found alive and healthy, maybe just in a like fugue state or disoriented.

Do you always live in an alternate reality? They wouldn't charge them unless they had evidence she was in the car with him.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Have you never heard of police manufacturing evidence against people, particularly black people, in high profile cases? Or witnesses misidentifying people, particularly black people? Like, NONE of the guys who went to jail for the Central Park jogger rape 20 odd years ago were actually the slightest bit guilty? NONE. Which one of us is living in an alternate reality again? Wake up!

(Fwiw, I am a white woman and a lawyer.)

Read the article in the Post today. The Charlottesville police chief is highly respected, considered very fair. A chief's chief.

Considered very fair by whom? Did you read this part of the article:

"Longo’s Charlottesville tenure includes outcry in 2004 during a hunt for a serial rapist described as African American. Longo’s force approached about 200 black men, asking them to voluntarily provide DNA samples. The chief eventually stopped the genetic sweep.

That memory lingers with M. Rick Turner, president of the NAACP in Charlottesville who said he has a cordial relationship with Longo but heard echoes of the DNA experience in the publicizing of Matthew’s name and photo before Tuesday night’s charges."

Can anyone imagine a police force stopping, say, blond haired white men and asking them for DNA samples because their description fit the profile of a suspected criminal? (And believe it or not, yes there are blond, white criminals.)