Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

[Anonymous]

Dumb question, but with the Gaetz plan to fund the 12 diff individual bills, does that mean if one of the bills gets passed for your agency, your agency is then fully funded and no shutdown for your agency?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dumb question, but with the Gaetz plan to fund the 12 diff individual bills, does that mean if one of the bills gets passed for your agency, your agency is then fully funded and no shutdown for your agency?

Correct. It would have to pass the Senate though, which I don't see happening at 8% cut levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the SD does happen- any ideas for how long? Someone floated Jan 1 here. That would be terrible

It’s absolutely not going to last anywhere that long. I would say at max 2 missed paychecks before enough excepted Feds start sick-outs/refuse to report to duty that it starts truly creating havoc forces Congress to figure it out.

[Anonymous]

Why system is so stupid and why elected leaders are so selfish?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like the shutdown will happen in the middle of a pay period. So do agencies process pay for the 1 week?

in theory, yes, there will be a partial paycheck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the SD does happen- any ideas for how long? Someone floated Jan 1 here. That would be terrible

It’s absolutely not going to last anywhere that long. I would say at max 2 missed paychecks before enough excepted Feds start sick-outs/refuse to report to duty that it starts truly creating havoc forces Congress to figure it out.

I don't want a shutdown, but if we have it, I want it to be a real shutdown, none of this Trump era no one got any guidance crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like the shutdown will happen in the middle of a pay period. So do agencies process pay for the 1 week?

the 2013 shutdown was in the middle of a pay period and we had to certify time for the one week. We indeed got a partial (40 hour) paycheck.

[Anonymous]

I just don't see this shutdown lasting longer than 10-15 days. House Dems and moderate republicans have already said they are willing to support a short term clean CR. they just can't get McCarthy to bring the bill to the floor because he will lose his speakership (unless dems support him). With this, the pressure would be on McCarthy to put his ego and ambitions aside and just bring that bill to the floor. Republicans will already lose the narrative as they always do with shutdowns, but this could be catastrophic for them and McCarthy if they don't accept the bi-partisian approach here.

Also, I don't understand McCarthy. He already supported the bi-partisian debt deal. That's what started this trouble for him with the freedom caucus. Dude you are already on the books for supporting the bi-partisian budget deal. and this shutdown will end with a bi-partisian agreement. so let the crazies challenge your speakership. cut a deal with moderate dems to save yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like the shutdown will happen in the middle of a pay period. So do agencies process pay for the 1 week?

I don’t think my agency is capable of processing half a pay period but we will see. I really hope so because we get paid this week, then pay our mortgage and credit card bills in the beginning of the month. Half a paycheck would be nice to have for the rest of the month. I don’t love dipping into our savings because Congress can’t function.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't see this shutdown lasting longer than 10-15 days. House Dems and moderate republicans have already said they are willing to support a short term clean CR. they just can't get McCarthy to bring the bill to the floor because he will lose his speakership (unless dems support him). With this, the pressure would be on McCarthy to put his ego and ambitions aside and just bring that bill to the floor. Republicans will already lose the narrative as they always do with shutdowns, but this could be catastrophic for them and McCarthy if they don't accept the bi-partisian approach here.

Also, I don't understand McCarthy. He already supported the bi-partisian debt deal. That's what started this trouble for him with the freedom caucus. Dude you are already on the books for supporting the bi-partisian budget deal. and this shutdown will end with a bi-partisian agreement. so let the crazies challenge your speakership. cut a deal with moderate dems to save yourself.

But if government shuts down then, why would people be motivated to even pass a CR then?

[Anonymous]

Once we're in a shutdown, can congress reopen with a CR or does it need to then fully negotiate every bill before it opens up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don't see this shutdown lasting longer than 10-15 days. House Dems and moderate republicans have already said they are willing to support a short term clean CR. they just can't get McCarthy to bring the bill to the floor because he will lose his speakership (unless dems support him). With this, the pressure would be on McCarthy to put his ego and ambitions aside and just bring that bill to the floor. Republicans will already lose the narrative as they always do with shutdowns, but this could be catastrophic for them and McCarthy if they don't accept the bi-partisian approach here.

Also, I don't understand McCarthy. He already supported the bi-partisian debt deal. That's what started this trouble for him with the freedom caucus. Dude you are already on the books for supporting the bi-partisian budget deal. and this shutdown will end with a bi-partisian agreement. so let the crazies challenge your speakership. cut a deal with moderate dems to save yourself.

This is why I'm not convinced it's even going to happen. The number of people on Congress who don't want to close is so much higher than those who do, they can do a run around the crazies if they really want to. The obstacles aren't intractable policy issues, it's truly just arbitrary partisanship. It's very solvable.

That said, my dad said "why would you expect moderate Republicans to break from their party to help the country when they haven't in the last decade?" Which is a fairly good point, if Jan 6 didn't do it, why today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once we're in a shutdown, can congress reopen with a CR or does it need to then fully negotiate every bill before it opens up?

You just need a CR, it’s fairly easy for a short term solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why system is so stupid and why elected leaders are so selfish?

Correction: why are Republican congressmen so selfish and destructive?

[Anonymous]

I don't see what's in it for the Democrats to bail out the republicans who can't get their sh*t together. Wouldn't it have to be a pretty favorable budget for the democrats? I just don't see it happening.