Billionaire heiress abducted during her Friday morning run in Memphis

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Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time understanding why there’s more hatred being directed to the victim and her husband versus the monster who took her. Violent repeat offenders should be put to death.

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People blame the victim and say the crime could have been prevented if they had taken various steps, because they they can tell themselves, "I will never be randomly attacked because I don't run early in the morning." Just like when a woman is attacked in the evening in a parking lot, they say, "I will never be attacked because I don't go to that mall or wear an outfit like that, etc. etc."

Statistically, women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted and murdered by a person known to them--a partner, family member, or friend--than by a random attacked. But by focus on stranger attacks and the choices a woman could make to prevent that attack, people can feel safer. A woman can choose to wear long skirts and sleeves and refuse to go out without a male chaperone, and still end up attacked.

Women make varying choices about their activity and the choices they make do not cause them to deserve death.

Sure, anything can happen to anyone at any time. But are you trying to say a woman alone on the streets, in the wee hours of dark night/morning, in a high crime area is not more at risk than say, a woman out shopping at 3pm with her family in Bethesda?

You live in a denial bubble. I was kidnapped + assaulted by 2 dudes in broad daylight by strangers walking down a busy street. No one stopped to help. Stop blaming the victim. You are gross.

Can you do an AMA if you're up for it?

You may ask here. I won't start a separate thread because it may be triggering to see the title for those who have had similar experiences.

So sorry for your experience. We're the perpetrators caught and brought to justice?

Yes they were but I had to spend months in court because one was a juvenile + 1 an adult.

NP. I’m so sorry, PP. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now.

Thank you. It is horrible anytime one of these terrible abductions hit the news + people blame the victims (like this case) instead of the violent criminals (almost always male).

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Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time understanding why there’s more hatred being directed to the victim and her husband versus the monster who took her. Violent repeat offenders should be put to death.

Yep.

People blame the victim and say the crime could have been prevented if they had taken various steps, because they they can tell themselves, "I will never be randomly attacked because I don't run early in the morning." Just like when a woman is attacked in the evening in a parking lot, they say, "I will never be attacked because I don't go to that mall or wear an outfit like that, etc. etc."

Statistically, women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted and murdered by a person known to them--a partner, family member, or friend--than by a random attacked. But by focus on stranger attacks and the choices a woman could make to prevent that attack, people can feel safer. A woman can choose to wear long skirts and sleeves and refuse to go out without a male chaperone, and still end up attacked.

Women make varying choices about their activity and the choices they make do not cause them to deserve death.

Sure, anything can happen to anyone at any time. But are you trying to say a woman alone on the streets, in the wee hours of dark night/morning, in a high crime area is not more at risk than say, a woman out shopping at 3pm with her family in Bethesda?

You live in a denial bubble. I was kidnapped + assaulted by 2 dudes in broad daylight by strangers walking down a busy street. No one stopped to help. Stop blaming the victim. You are gross.

Can you do an AMA if you're up for it?

You may ask here. I won't start a separate thread because it may be triggering to see the title for those who have had similar experiences.

So sorry for your experience. We're the perpetrators caught and brought to justice?

Yes they were but I had to spend months in court because one was a juvenile + 1 an adult.

NP. I’m so sorry, PP. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now.

Thank you. It is horrible anytime one of these terrible abductions hit the news + people blame the victims (like this case) instead of the violent criminals (almost always male).

My fervant hope is that you or your family got revenge on these men and they are paying more than the price of assaulting you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time understanding why there’s more hatred being directed to the victim and her husband versus the monster who took her. Violent repeat offenders should be put to death.

Yep.

People blame the victim and say the crime could have been prevented if they had taken various steps, because they they can tell themselves, "I will never be randomly attacked because I don't run early in the morning." Just like when a woman is attacked in the evening in a parking lot, they say, "I will never be attacked because I don't go to that mall or wear an outfit like that, etc. etc."

Statistically, women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted and murdered by a person known to them--a partner, family member, or friend--than by a random attacked. But by focus on stranger attacks and the choices a woman could make to prevent that attack, people can feel safer. A woman can choose to wear long skirts and sleeves and refuse to go out without a male chaperone, and still end up attacked.

Women make varying choices about their activity and the choices they make do not cause them to deserve death.

Sure, anything can happen to anyone at any time. But are you trying to say a woman alone on the streets, in the wee hours of dark night/morning, in a high crime area is not more at risk than say, a woman out shopping at 3pm with her family in Bethesda?

You live in a denial bubble. I was kidnapped + assaulted by 2 dudes in broad daylight by strangers walking down a busy street. No one stopped to help. Stop blaming the victim. You are gross.

Can you do an AMA if you're up for it?

You may ask here. I won't start a separate thread because it may be triggering to see the title for those who have had similar experiences.

So sorry for your experience. We're the perpetrators caught and brought to justice?

Yes they were but I had to spend months in court because one was a juvenile + 1 an adult.

NP. I’m so sorry, PP. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now.

Thank you. It is horrible anytime one of these terrible abductions hit the news + people blame the victims (like this case) instead of the violent criminals (almost always male).

My fervant hope is that you or your family got revenge on these men and they are paying more than the price of assaulting you.

Thank you, but crime does not work like that (outside of the movies). Most criminals get out of jail and contine to commit more crimes. As a victim,, yes we work to move forward, but have to always be on alert, always be "situationally aware"+ and always be concerned that something could happen again. The criminals take away peace + security+ innocence from their victims.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time understanding why there’s more hatred being directed to the victim and her husband versus the monster who took her. Violent repeat offenders should be put to death.

Yep.

People blame the victim and say the crime could have been prevented if they had taken various steps, because they they can tell themselves, "I will never be randomly attacked because I don't run early in the morning." Just like when a woman is attacked in the evening in a parking lot, they say, "I will never be attacked because I don't go to that mall or wear an outfit like that, etc. etc."

Statistically, women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted and murdered by a person known to them--a partner, family member, or friend--than by a random attacked. But by focus on stranger attacks and the choices a woman could make to prevent that attack, people can feel safer. A woman can choose to wear long skirts and sleeves and refuse to go out without a male chaperone, and still end up attacked.

Women make varying choices about their activity and the choices they make do not cause them to deserve death.

Sure, anything can happen to anyone at any time. But are you trying to say a woman alone on the streets, in the wee hours of dark night/morning, in a high crime area is not more at risk than say, a woman out shopping at 3pm with her family in Bethesda?

You live in a denial bubble. I was kidnapped + assaulted by 2 dudes in broad daylight by strangers walking down a busy street. No one stopped to help. Stop blaming the victim. You are gross.

Can you do an AMA if you're up for it?

You may ask here. I won't start a separate thread because it may be triggering to see the title for those who have had similar experiences.

So sorry for your experience. We're the perpetrators caught and brought to justice?

Yes they were but I had to spend months in court because one was a juvenile + 1 an adult.

NP. I’m so sorry, PP. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now.

Thank you. It is horrible anytime one of these terrible abductions hit the news + people blame the victims (like this case) instead of the violent criminals (almost always male).

PP here. Hugs. Thanks for helping to keep things in perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time understanding why there’s more hatred being directed to the victim and her husband versus the monster who took her. Violent repeat offenders should be put to death.

Yep.

People blame the victim and say the crime could have been prevented if they had taken various steps, because they they can tell themselves, "I will never be randomly attacked because I don't run early in the morning." Just like when a woman is attacked in the evening in a parking lot, they say, "I will never be attacked because I don't go to that mall or wear an outfit like that, etc. etc."

Statistically, women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted and murdered by a person known to them--a partner, family member, or friend--than by a random attacked. But by focus on stranger attacks and the choices a woman could make to prevent that attack, people can feel safer. A woman can choose to wear long skirts and sleeves and refuse to go out without a male chaperone, and still end up attacked.

Women make varying choices about their activity and the choices they make do not cause them to deserve death.

Sure, anything can happen to anyone at any time. But are you trying to say a woman alone on the streets, in the wee hours of dark night/morning, in a high crime area is not more at risk than say, a woman out shopping at 3pm with her family in Bethesda?

You live in a denial bubble. I was kidnapped + assaulted by 2 dudes in broad daylight by strangers walking down a busy street. No one stopped to help. Stop blaming the victim. You are gross.

Can you do an AMA if you're up for it?

You may ask here. I won't start a separate thread because it may be triggering to see the title for those who have had similar experiences.

So sorry for your experience. We're the perpetrators caught and brought to justice?

Yes they were but I had to spend months in court because one was a juvenile + 1 an adult.

NP. I’m so sorry, PP. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now.

Thank you. It is horrible anytime one of these terrible abductions hit the news + people blame the victims (like this case) instead of the violent criminals (almost always male).

PP here. Hugs. Thanks for helping to keep things in perspective.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Looks like they have found something:

Prayers for Eliza and her family.

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Anonymous wrote:[twitter]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet">

#HappeningNow mobile command center arriving. @ABC24Memphis #elizafletcher pic.twitter.com/4etEPF3Gll

— Ian Ripple (@Ripple1026) September 5, 2022</blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/twitter]

Sorry—just go to Ian Ripple on Twitter for updates.

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Wouldn’t a bloodhound dog easily pick up the scent of a 2-3 day old corpse if this area is really where she is? I just don’t understand the suspense of hours and hours of looking and uncertainty. This perp is no genius, it sounds like he just quickly dumped her on his route to the apartment.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m having a hard time understanding why there’s more hatred being directed to the victim and her husband versus the monster who took her. Violent repeat offenders should be put to death.

Yep.

People blame the victim and say the crime could have been prevented if they had taken various steps, because they they can tell themselves, "I will never be randomly attacked because I don't run early in the morning." Just like when a woman is attacked in the evening in a parking lot, they say, "I will never be attacked because I don't go to that mall or wear an outfit like that, etc. etc."

Statistically, women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted and murdered by a person known to them--a partner, family member, or friend--than by a random attacked. But by focus on stranger attacks and the choices a woman could make to prevent that attack, people can feel safer. A woman can choose to wear long skirts and sleeves and refuse to go out without a male chaperone, and still end up attacked.

Women make varying choices about their activity and the choices they make do not cause them to deserve death.

Sure, anything can happen to anyone at any time. But are you trying to say a woman alone on the streets, in the wee hours of dark night/morning, in a high crime area is not more at risk than say, a woman out shopping at 3pm with her family in Bethesda?

You live in a denial bubble. I was kidnapped + assaulted by 2 dudes in broad daylight by strangers walking down a busy street. No one stopped to help. Stop blaming the victim. You are gross.

Can you do an AMA if you're up for it?

You may ask here. I won't start a separate thread because it may be triggering to see the title for those who have had similar experiences.

So sorry for your experience. We're the perpetrators caught and brought to justice?

Yes they were but I had to spend months in court because one was a juvenile + 1 an adult.

NP. I’m so sorry, PP. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now.

Thank you. It is horrible anytime one of these terrible abductions hit the news + people blame the victims (like this case) instead of the violent criminals (almost always male).

There is a vile contingent on DCUM that gets off on victim blaming. The hikers w/baby. The van life people. Anyone they can.

Truly disgusting. I knew it was happening before I ever opened this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Her body has been found.

No major news outlets are reporting it

I don’t think the FBI comes on scene unless they have it.

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What if they find more than one victim and this predator has been doing this for 2 years? The expanded scope of the scene is really eerie.

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There’s an area between the brother’s apartment and the command center that looks like it holds a cluster of dumpsters. I hope we get good news but don’t think she’s alive. At least they caught this guy and the family will get closure. Does TN have the death penalty?

Anyone know why FBI is involved?

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Anonymous wrote:Her body has been found.

No major news outlets are reporting it

I don’t think the FBI comes on scene unless they have it.

The FBI investigates crimes all the time. They don’t just pick up bodies.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Memphis was a really violent and poor town? They live in Memphis proper? Is there like a historic mansion ritzy sliver of town rich people still live in?

Public record shows they paid $600k for a charming 3k sq/ft cape cod style home a couple years ago. Pretty big money for Memphis. And not a home you can afford on just a pre-k teacher’s salary. Near the university and a couple golf courses, which seems like the concentrated pocket of wealth for the otherwise downtrodden city.

It’s really not. A simple Zillow search will show you hundreds of houses that sold for more (in many cases, much more) than $600k in the area immediately surrounding the University of Memphis in the past couple of years.

In what world is a $600k house big money? It doesn't seem like she had access to the family wealth, at least not much of it. She was the granddaughter - might have gotten caught up with the older gen and not trickled down to her.

In most of the U.S. Step outside your ultra privileged bubble once in a while.

So I’m Memphis, billionaires live in $600k 3000sf homes? No, I don’t think so. She didn’t have access to the family money (at least not much of it)

Lol let’s see grandfather worked at family business and co-ran the company- ie he draws a salary. The company was never listed and has not been sold. So no win fall profit for old granddad. How many kids did grandad have 2, 3? How many kids did they have? Not a lot of money left by the time you get to the grandkids. Is the grand father still alive?

The annual distributions to the owners (basically the dividend) would be material. Probably about $20 million per year to all owners based on what we know about the company