To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

[Anonymous]

I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

[Anonymous]

Whats worse - the 18 on the terrorist watchlist crossing the border in September 2023 or the 11 crossing from January 2017 - January 2021?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Blinken is walking back the support for Israel. It's too late. We will remember at the polls. Biden has already lost Michigan. Its damage control time, someone must have ordered an overpriced poll to see that Democrats don't support this effort.

It's too late, you have already lost too many voters.

Voters who will vote for this instead?

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

Was it the mean tweets? Because the world was a safer, less violent and more prosperous place under Trump.

Hmm those riots at the capital were pretty peaceful as well as protests at Charlottesville with the tiki torches.

Those Tiki Torches in Charlottesville are almost quaint compared to some of the things I’ve heard people who are in MY party say about Jews like me in the last three weeks. I’m stepping back from thinking of myself as a moderate Democrat. I’ve seen what other people who also describe themselves as moderate Democrats are saying about me, and we are not the same people. I’m not even sure we’re the same species at this point. I’m no5 prone to dramatics like burning voter registration cards or anything, but I’m going to be changing the way I vote. I hope Ron DeSantis is the republican nominee next year, because if he is, I’m voting for him and will do my best to convince everyone I know to vote for him too. I might even vote for Trump, if the choice is between Trump and Biden, because the Democratic Party needs a housecleaning event and losing everything might be what’s necessary to achieve it. So be it.

I have been very curious when democrats were going to start calling out the glaring hypocrisy of their own. You have a couple dozen glassbowls parading through the night with tiki torches chanting "we will not be replaced" and democrats scream about THERE IS NO BOTH SIDES! NAZIS!
And yet in the last three weeks there has been more nazi like sentiment and behavior on the left, supporting genocide, full throated protests calling for the eradication of peoples and its been barely a shrug.
And some are actually defending the "kids" aka grown a$$ adults at elite schools that signed documents expressing joy for the carnage. I mean WTAF.
I am sure fringe white supremacist wish they could get this much adulation and support as the real Nazis are right now.

Democrats do not agree with the far left who express anti-semetic rhetoric. This isn't hard. There are racists of all stripes that Trump and MAGAism has unleashed in this country. They are the "deplorables" that the right criticized Hillary to no end about. the different, you don't see mainstream Dems embracing the rhetoric. Same cannot be said for the right.

I’m a democrat. And what’s scary is that progressive democrats fan the flames of it. You have Ilhan Omar who doesn’t even hide her anti semitism. The rest of the squad is just as bad. As a Democrat, I am in a position where we need to caucus with progressives but after the past month I cannot and will not be able to vote for them.

Jamal Bowman represents my district - I didn’t vote for him in the primary but held my nose and voted for him in 2020, but I will not vote for him again after he refused to vote for a bill condemning Hamas. Our district is probably 20% Jewish, has been redsitricted since 2020, and I sincerely hope he is primaried and loses next year.

The squad cannot be trusted when it comes to antisemitism and extremism, and it’s real problem for democrats.

I don't think AOC is a racist. I do think the other three are.

That said, it is three elected Democrats in the House. None of them are House leadership or party leadership. They are not the mainstream of the party, and certainly do not speak for the President or any of the Administration.

It is a very different scenario than the GOP, where the racist and crazy are core to the party leadership and main stream elected officials. Certainly more so than most of their voters.

Boy are you going to be shocked when you find out all the racist stuff that Biden has said. But his racism always gets dismissed as a "gaffe".
Talk about racist at the top of party leadership. Doesn't get any higher than that.

Bidens actions over the past 25 years speak louder than his words. People can evolve with their understanding of the world. Yes, Biden has said some cringy stuff. He doesn't peddle in the outright hate rhetoric of the right, or the fringe left. He is more a product of his upbringing who has adapted over changing times.

DP. But what are his actions? As a black person I can't think of anything he has done for BIPOC citizens.

What do you think the GOP will do for you. In all honesty.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Blinken is walking back the support for Israel. It's too late. We will remember at the polls. Biden has already lost Michigan. Its damage control time, someone must have ordered an overpriced poll to see that Democrats don't support this effort.

It's too late, you have already lost too many voters.

Voters who will vote for this instead?

Let's see what this act would do:

The SAFE Act would:

Render Palestinian Authority passport holders (covered aliens) inadmissible to the U.S.
Bar DHS Sec from granting immigrant/non-immigrant visas to covered aliens.
Revoke visas issued to covered aliens on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting covered aliens Temporary Protected Status.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting future asylum or refugee status to covered aliens.
Revoke Refugee or Asylum status for covered aliens if requested on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Sec from paroling a covered alien.
Revoke parole of covered aliens if paroled on or after October 1.
Direct DHS with ICE/USCIS to identify and remove covered aliens without lawful status (including newly revoked status).

Given this administrations inability to appropriately vet people who enter our country, this does not seem over the top. He stated:

"I don’t trust the Biden Administration any more than I do the Palestinian Authority to screen who is allowed to come into the United States,”

Also, remember that a person considered a terrorism suspect was just released then arrested 2 weeks later in NY:

[Anonymous]

I'm going to vote, but not for president. I cannot support Biden and I won't vote for any of the Republicans. I'm done voting for someone I don't support. My first Biden vote was a vote against Trump, but not a vote for Biden because I supported Biden.

[Anonymous]

The smart play is to support Trump publicly. He’ll be a disaster, but you want him to know you were in his camp when he starts kicking a** and executing people.

There’s no cost to you if Biden wins. He doesn’t punish people who vote against him unless they actually get caught raiding the Capitol or committing fraud or whatever.

But Trump’s embrace of violence will sap the Democrats’ strength. Look at [url=https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mob-boss-trump-s-threats-to-mobilize-his-mob-are-escalating/ar-AA1jjP2g]how Republican members of Congress are terrified of Trump. They know if they oppose him they risk getting their house bombed or getting shot walking home. They know a heavily-armed Trump person, be it a man on the street or their own ex-military security guy can take them out at any moment.

Now turn that energy against Democrat campaigns. Fewer and fewer volunteers. Disappearing bumper stickers and yard signs. Declining contributions from people who don’t want a future President Trump to find out they gave to a Democrat.

That’s Trump’s secret: a Mob-based intimidation campaign that emphasizes what happened if he wins. He’ll get stronger and stronger as the campaign goes on and Americans, just like the GOP politicians, realize they better get on Trump’s good side before it’s too late.

[Anonymous]

I hold out hope it won’t be Biden or Trump.

I also play the lottery- one of my dreams should come true.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Blinken is walking back the support for Israel. It's too late. We will remember at the polls. Biden has already lost Michigan. Its damage control time, someone must have ordered an overpriced poll to see that Democrats don't support this effort.

It's too late, you have already lost too many voters.

Voters who will vote for this instead?

Let's see what this act would do:

The SAFE Act would:

Render Palestinian Authority passport holders (covered aliens) inadmissible to the U.S.
Bar DHS Sec from granting immigrant/non-immigrant visas to covered aliens.
Revoke visas issued to covered aliens on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting covered aliens Temporary Protected Status.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting future asylum or refugee status to covered aliens.
Revoke Refugee or Asylum status for covered aliens if requested on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Sec from paroling a covered alien.
Revoke parole of covered aliens if paroled on or after October 1.
Direct DHS with ICE/USCIS to identify and remove covered aliens without lawful status (including newly revoked status).

Given this administrations inability to appropriately vet people who enter our country, this does not seem over the top. He stated:

"I don’t trust the Biden Administration any more than I do the Palestinian Authority to screen who is allowed to come into the United States,”

Also, remember that a person considered a terrorism suspect was just released then arrested 2 weeks later in NY:

Oh no! African terrorist and Twitter no less! Seems like a trifecta for Fox News!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

We need third-party candidate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

We need third-party candidate.

We certainly need more choice. The Democrats are godawful and the Republicans are worse. There’s clearly better possibilities, but many, including on this thread, refuse to engage the reality and it just might harm them as well.

[Anonymous]

Actual lifelong Democrat here:

I have a long memory: never again with Trump. Too many reasons to list.

I think Biden is past it and unlike a PP who claims his problem is a speech impediment vs a cognitive issue, I don’t want him to run again.

I wish both parties had actual intellectual candidates who aren’t over the hill or crazy (regardless of who you think is which) - this is a country full of brilliant minds and the election coming down to these two clumps says more about how depressing the US political system is than anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The smart play is to support Trump publicly. He’ll be a disaster, but you want him to know you were in his camp when he starts kicking a** and executing people.

There’s no cost to you if Biden wins. He doesn’t punish people who vote against him unless they actually get caught raiding the Capitol or committing fraud or whatever.

But Trump’s embrace of violence will sap the Democrats’ strength. Look at [url=https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mob-boss-trump-s-threats-to-mobilize-his-mob-are-escalating/ar-AA1jjP2g]how Republican members of Congress are terrified of Trump. They know if they oppose him they risk getting their house bombed or getting shot walking home. They know a heavily-armed Trump person, be it a man on the street or their own ex-military security guy can take them out at any moment.

Now turn that energy against Democrat campaigns. Fewer and fewer volunteers. Disappearing bumper stickers and yard signs. Declining contributions from people who don’t want a future President Trump to find out they gave to a Democrat.

That’s Trump’s secret: a Mob-based intimidation campaign that emphasizes what happened if he wins. He’ll get stronger and stronger as the campaign goes on and Americans, just like the GOP politicians, realize they better get on Trump’s good side before it’s too late.

No one is getting shot or their house bombed for not supporting Trump, you absolute lunatic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Blinken is walking back the support for Israel. It's too late. We will remember at the polls. Biden has already lost Michigan. Its damage control time, someone must have ordered an overpriced poll to see that Democrats don't support this effort.

It's too late, you have already lost too many voters.

Voters who will vote for this instead?

Let's see what this act would do:

The SAFE Act would:

Render Palestinian Authority passport holders (covered aliens) inadmissible to the U.S.
Bar DHS Sec from granting immigrant/non-immigrant visas to covered aliens.
Revoke visas issued to covered aliens on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting covered aliens Temporary Protected Status.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting future asylum or refugee status to covered aliens.
Revoke Refugee or Asylum status for covered aliens if requested on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Sec from paroling a covered alien.
Revoke parole of covered aliens if paroled on or after October 1.
Direct DHS with ICE/USCIS to identify and remove covered aliens without lawful status (including newly revoked status).

Given this administrations inability to appropriately vet people who enter our country, this does not seem over the top. He stated:

"I don’t trust the Biden Administration any more than I do the Palestinian Authority to screen who is allowed to come into the United States,”

Also, remember that a person considered a terrorism suspect was just released then arrested 2 weeks later in NY:

This is actually more accepting of Palestinians than most of the Middle East.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actual lifelong Democrat here:

I have a long memory: never again with Trump. Too many reasons to list.

I think Biden is past it and unlike a PP who claims his problem is a speech impediment vs a cognitive issue, I don’t want him to run again.

I wish both parties had actual intellectual candidates who aren’t over the hill or crazy (regardless of who you think is which) - this is a country full of brilliant minds and the election coming down to these two clumps says more about how depressing the US political system is than anything else.

Last paragraph is clutch. The choices are both awful and the country (and the world!) deserve better. A lot of lazy posters here think that we can get out of this without heavy lifting, they can’t even bear hearing that large and increasing numbers of voters are unhappy.