To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Blinken is walking back the support for Israel. It's too late. We will remember at the polls. Biden has already lost Michigan. Its damage control time, someone must have ordered an overpriced poll to see that Democrats don't support this effort.

It's too late, you have already lost too many voters.

Voters who will vote for this instead?

Let's see what this act would do:

The SAFE Act would:

Render Palestinian Authority passport holders (covered aliens) inadmissible to the U.S.
Bar DHS Sec from granting immigrant/non-immigrant visas to covered aliens.
Revoke visas issued to covered aliens on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting covered aliens Temporary Protected Status.
Bar DHS Secretary from granting future asylum or refugee status to covered aliens.
Revoke Refugee or Asylum status for covered aliens if requested on or after October 1.
Bar DHS Sec from paroling a covered alien.
Revoke parole of covered aliens if paroled on or after October 1.
Direct DHS with ICE/USCIS to identify and remove covered aliens without lawful status (including newly revoked status).

Given this administrations inability to appropriately vet people who enter our country, this does not seem over the top. He stated:

"I don’t trust the Biden Administration any more than I do the Palestinian Authority to screen who is allowed to come into the United States,”

Also, remember that a person considered a terrorism suspect was just released then arrested 2 weeks later in NY:

Oh no! African terrorist and Twitter no less! Seems like a trifecta for Fox News!

Should we treat terrorist from African different from other terrorists?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

You’re really close to getting it.

Instead of saying “I don’t like Biden’s Mideast policy so I’m voting for the Republicans” imagine looking at it as “Republicans are threatening to deport Palestinians but Democrats are sending weapons to kill them right now.”

I don’t think people are going to vote Republican. I think they’re going to stay home.

Here’s the moment for the Democratic Party to draw a clear distinction between themselves and the Republicans. You obviously think this draft legislation does that, but it doesn’t, because the Democrats are still arming the side that has killed 3000+ children and resisted calls for respite.

Big democratic thinkers should now be looking for a positive message to send the voters about why they’re really worth voting for, not trying to scare people with a Republican proposal that can’t pass.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

You’re really close to getting it.

Instead of saying “I don’t like Biden’s Mideast policy so I’m voting for the Republicans” imagine looking at it as “Republicans are threatening to deport Palestinians but Democrats are sending weapons to kill them right now.”

I don’t think people are going to vote Republican. I think they’re going to stay home.

Here’s the moment for the Democratic Party to draw a clear distinction between themselves and the Republicans. You obviously think this draft legislation does that, but it doesn’t, because the Democrats are still arming the side that has killed 3000+ children and resisted calls for respite.

Big democratic thinkers should now be looking for a positive message to send the voters about why they’re really worth voting for, not trying to scare people with a Republican proposal that can’t pass.

Meanwhile, several Jewish posters in another thread are refusing to vote for Biden because the Democratic Party isn’t sufficiently pro-Israel.

People have lost their ever loving minds.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't like Biden's policy in the middle east, so I am voting for the republicans....

Be forewarned what the GOP will do with Muslims in the US.

You’re really close to getting it.

Instead of saying “I don’t like Biden’s Mideast policy so I’m voting for the Republicans” imagine looking at it as “Republicans are threatening to deport Palestinians but Democrats are sending weapons to kill them right now.”

I don’t think people are going to vote Republican. I think they’re going to stay home.

Here’s the moment for the Democratic Party to draw a clear distinction between themselves and the Republicans. You obviously think this draft legislation does that, but it doesn’t, because the Democrats are still arming the side that has killed 3000+ children and resisted calls for respite.

Big democratic thinkers should now be looking for a positive message to send the voters about why they’re really worth voting for, not trying to scare people with a Republican proposal that can’t pass.

Meanwhile, several Jewish posters in another thread are refusing to vote for Biden because the Democratic Party isn’t sufficiently pro-Israel.

People have lost their ever loving minds.

Yup.

Let's just support the Evangelical party that wants Jews to burn in The Rapture, and in the meantime taking away women's rights, the right to vote and other rights in the name of Jesus Christ.

There aren't enough emojis.

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

I suppose if you are a White Christian, then sure. For the rest of us, not so much.

Was it the mean tweets? Because the world was a safer, less violent and more prosperous place under Trump.

Hmm those riots at the capital were pretty peaceful as well as protests at Charlottesville with the tiki torches.

Those Tiki Torches in Charlottesville are almost quaint compared to some of the things I’ve heard people who are in MY party say about Jews like me in the last three weeks. I’m stepping back from thinking of myself as a moderate Democrat. I’ve seen what other people who also describe themselves as moderate Democrats are saying about me, and we are not the same people. I’m not even sure we’re the same species at this point. I’m no5 prone to dramatics like burning voter registration cards or anything, but I’m going to be changing the way I vote. I hope Ron DeSantis is the republican nominee next year, because if he is, I’m voting for him and will do my best to convince everyone I know to vote for him too. I might even vote for Trump, if the choice is between Trump and Biden, because the Democratic Party needs a housecleaning event and losing everything might be what’s necessary to achieve it. So be it.

I have been very curious when democrats were going to start calling out the glaring hypocrisy of their own. You have a couple dozen glassbowls parading through the night with tiki torches chanting "we will not be replaced" and democrats scream about THERE IS NO BOTH SIDES! NAZIS!
And yet in the last three weeks there has been more nazi like sentiment and behavior on the left, supporting genocide, full throated protests calling for the eradication of peoples and its been barely a shrug.
And some are actually defending the "kids" aka grown a$$ adults at elite schools that signed documents expressing joy for the carnage. I mean WTAF.
I am sure fringe white supremacist wish they could get this much adulation and support as the real Nazis are right now.

Democrats do not agree with the far left who express anti-semetic rhetoric. This isn't hard. There are racists of all stripes that Trump and MAGAism has unleashed in this country. They are the "deplorables" that the right criticized Hillary to no end about. the different, you don't see mainstream Dems embracing the rhetoric. Same cannot be said for the right.

I’m a democrat. And what’s scary is that progressive democrats fan the flames of it. You have Ilhan Omar who doesn’t even hide her anti semitism. The rest of the squad is just as bad. As a Democrat, I am in a position where we need to caucus with progressives but after the past month I cannot and will not be able to vote for them.

Jamal Bowman represents my district - I didn’t vote for him in the primary but held my nose and voted for him in 2020, but I will not vote for him again after he refused to vote for a bill condemning Hamas. Our district is probably 20% Jewish, has been redsitricted since 2020, and I sincerely hope he is primaried and loses next year.

The squad cannot be trusted when it comes to antisemitism and extremism, and it’s real problem for democrats.

I don't think AOC is a racist. I do think the other three are.

That said, it is three elected Democrats in the House. None of them are House leadership or party leadership. They are not the mainstream of the party, and certainly do not speak for the President or any of the Administration.

It is a very different scenario than the GOP, where the racist and crazy are core to the party leadership and main stream elected officials. Certainly more so than most of their voters.

Boy are you going to be shocked when you find out all the racist stuff that Biden has said. But his racism always gets dismissed as a "gaffe".
Talk about racist at the top of party leadership. Doesn't get any higher than that.

Bidens actions over the past 25 years speak louder than his words. People can evolve with their understanding of the world. Yes, Biden has said some cringy stuff. He doesn't peddle in the outright hate rhetoric of the right, or the fringe left. He is more a product of his upbringing who has adapted over changing times.

DP. But what are his actions? As a black person I can't think of anything he has done for BIPOC citizens.

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Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

Not a single one of his "accomplishments" has had any impact on my life.

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Biden has shown us what he really is. He is a spineless man that only votes for lobbyist interests. He has blood on his hands. His whole administration especially Blinken all have blood on their hands.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden has shown us what he really is. He is a spineless man that only votes for lobbyist interests. He has blood on his hands. His whole administration especially Blinken all have blood on their hands.

Indeed!

Biden is painfully an establishment politician and has been for fifty years.

Without the establishment’s many failures, Trump’s political career would have never happened. The only serious challenge to Trump and co. will come from something more compelling than our long-failing, yet firmly entrenched establishment.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

You and your ilk have convinced me this is wrong. People with as little interest in others as you display are obviously crap allies. Something new needs to born very soon or else we risk more serious problems later. No more excuses for fascists and their failed policies.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

Not a single one of his "accomplishments" has had any impact on my life.

Well, I guess we can go back to Trump who has zero accomplishments. It's breakeven for you any way. And, of course, it's all about you.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to guilt people into voting for Biden. If he was a great candidate there's be no debate.

Stop trying to pretend you have a choice. If Trump becomes the Republican candidate there is no debate.

Again. That’s in a year. Spend this year making Biden a great candidate.

He already is.

Not a single one of his "accomplishments" has had any impact on my life.

Well, I guess we can go back to Trump who has zero accomplishments. It's breakeven for you any way. And, of course, it's all about you.

NP. That’s funny, in reading your comment, it was clear you were uninterested in what other voters thought or you were unable to consider the possibility of other candidates. It’s like you can’t absorb any information beyond your own obsessions.