4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

[Anonymous]

Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

People don't become killers because they are coddled by their parents. Note that he is being represented by a public defender, so the parents are condemning him but they also aren't taking out a 2nd mortgage for his legal fees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did his father drive cross country in THAT white car without knowing something was up?

Not everyone follows the news obsessively? This happened thousands of miles from where he lived.

Uhhhh...maybe someone who never follows the news wouldn't have heard about it.

Uhhhh…that was my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

People don't become killers because they are coddled by their parents. Note that he is being represented by a public defender, so the parents are condemning him but they also aren't taking out a 2nd mortgage for his legal fees.

Please share the quote where the parents are condemning him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

Well, it sounds like you will be very in the ball with the vitriol against your child if they’re ever accused of a murder…congrats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

Well, it sounds like you will be very in the ball with the vitriol against your child if they’re ever accused of a murder…congrats?

Sounds like projection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

People don't become killers because they are coddled by their parents. Note that he is being represented by a public defender, so the parents aren't condemning him but they also aren't taking out a 2nd mortgage for his legal fees.

Please share the quote where the parents are condemning him.

Typo, should have said aren't condemning him

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am really curious how they used the genealogy evidence to match the DNA from the crime scene? I am surmising that the DNA at the scene matched a relative and the relative did some sort of DNA test like 23 and Me. They got the relative's name and then matched to his name because of the car?

Yes, this is essentially how the process works. I have no knowledge of what happened in this particular case, but generally: a standard DNA profile (STR profile) from an evidence sample is first searched against an offender database (e.g. the databases in CODIS). When there is no match, other types of searches with relaxed match criteria may (depending on state law) be performed to try to find a related individual in the offender database. When those types of searches don’t provide any matches or leads, a different type of DNA profile (SNP profile) can be developed from the evidence sample and then compared to a genealogical database. In this case the news reports stated that it was a “public” database, so I am guessing the evidence profile was searched in GEDmatch. GEDmatch is not a DNA testing company like 23andMe; instead, it’s a publicly available site where users upload their own DNA data after having testing performed by one of the direct-to-consumer companies. When uploading their data, users can either opt-in or opt-out of making their DNA profile available for matching in law enforcement/forensic cases. In any event, when an evidence SNP profile is searched against the database, and possible matches to related individuals are found, some limited information (an email address, sometimes a name) is provided along with an estimate of the genetic distance between the evidence and database profile - which indicates the likely degree of relatedness. Genealogists then use that relatedness and match information along with public records (birth, death, marriage, etc.) to begin constructing family trees and narrowing down the potential individuals who could be the source of the unknown DNA in the evidence sample. In some instances, individuals in the family tree(s) are asked if they can provide a DNA sample to help confirm or exclude relationships (no idea if that occurred in this case). The aim of the genealogist in these cases is to provide law enforcement information that is essentially an investigative lead - a family tree, with a narrow list of individuals who could have been the source of the unknown DNA in the case. Law enforcement must ultimately collect a DNA sample from a suspect identified via genetic genealogy and confirm that it matches the DNA from the evidence sample.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

People don't become killers because they are coddled by their parents. Note that he is being represented by a public defender, so the parents are condemning him but they also aren't taking out a 2nd mortgage for his legal fees.

Plus 1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

People don't become killers because they are coddled by their parents. Note that he is being represented by a public defender, so the parents are condemning him but they also aren't taking out a 2nd mortgage for his legal fees.

Plus 1

They probably can't afford to take out a second mortgage. They've filed for bankruptcy twice, according to news reports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember these parents coddled their boy. Even parents here said they’d support their son until it was proven he was guilty. Since he claims innocence, I’m 100% certain his parents will believe there must have been a mistake, in spite of DNA evidence. That’s just how it goes with families like this.

Warning:
Coddling your child can have unintended consequences. Appropriate consequences are essential.

People don't become killers because they are coddled by their parents. Note that he is being represented by a public defender, so the parents are condemning him but they also aren't taking out a 2nd mortgage for his legal fees.

Plus 1

They probably can't afford to take out a second mortgage. They've filed for bankruptcy twice, according to news reports.

No one said they were wealthy. I suspect if they were able to take out a second mortgage, they would.

[Anonymous]

Figures that the alleged killer was also an aggressive driver. How do you get stopped twice in 10 minutes for driving too close and the 2nd officer knows that you were stopped 10 minutes ago for the same violation and doesn't give a ticket?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Figures that the alleged killer was also an aggressive driver. How do you get stopped twice in 10 minutes for driving too close and the 2nd officer knows that you were stopped 10 minutes ago for the same violation and doesn't give a ticket?

Because the FBI contacted the Indiana State Police and asked they pull him over to get bodycam footage, specifically of the hands.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Sounds like there was no real cause, except for the FBI request.