School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

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Anonymous wrote:That kid wasn’t bullied. He was probably ignored and ostracized because kids can TELL when someone is “off.” They can’t verbalize why but they know the dangerous kids and they avoid them for self preservation. These kids aren’t bullied. They ARE the bullies.

His parents will probably blame: screens, school closures, bullying, CRT. It’s just their kid. And them.

-high school teacher

I was bullied a lot in middle and high school. Kids ripped up my books, cut my hair, punched, sexually abused me, and more. Teachers saw it happen but they were buddy-buddy with the cool kids and didn’t want to risk their relationships that made them, the adult, feel cool. So no one ever did anything.

I wouldn’t ever trust a teacher to know or be honest about who is a bully.

Same here, and I agree - but this is different- the killer's parents were screaming "bully" bc they didn't want to deal with their own kid, as happens often.

Troubled parents have troubled kids.

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Anonymous wrote:They're on the run in Detroit proper, east side of Detroit? I suspected all week they're drug addicts. Opioid crisis has slaughter over 3,000 in Michigan this year alone.

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They certainly seem like they are familiar with that type of lifestyle.

STOP COMING UP WITH EXCUSES. They’re not drug addicts, their son wasn’t bullied. They’re BAD PEOPLE who didn’t care their son was going to kill people.

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PREACH.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That kid wasn’t bullied. He was probably ignored and ostracized because kids can TELL when someone is “off.” They can’t verbalize why but they know the dangerous kids and they avoid them for self preservation. These kids aren’t bullied. They ARE the bullies.

His parents will probably blame: screens, school closures, bullying, CRT. It’s just their kid. And them.

-high school teacher

I was bullied a lot in middle and high school. Kids ripped up my books, cut my hair, punched, sexually abused me, and more. Teachers saw it happen but they were buddy-buddy with the cool kids and didn’t want to risk their relationships that made them, the adult, feel cool. So no one ever did anything.

I wouldn’t ever trust a teacher to know or be honest about who is a bully.

But you didn’t shoot up a school. I’m not here to discuss your trauma or issue with teachers . I’m here to dispel the myth that school shooters are bullied. They’re not. They’re sociopaths and kids know it in their gut and avoid them.

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Totally agree. One day it's a chair thrown across a classroom, or sucker punching a classmate, the next this.

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Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

The amount of ignorance and misogyny being spread in this post is disgusting. PP you are an uneducated dunce.

Honestly, he looks like every other teenage boy. This age is filled with arrogance and eye rolling. I’ve seen the same look on my son’s face when I get on him to finish chores. Or the teenagers on his soccer team when I tell them to pick up all the cones after practice. I know they are really thinking “leave me the f alone”, but they do what they are told. You can’t tell “low IQ” or anything.

This is no eyeroll.

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

They can't. He might be "in a certain situation" (before all this), which gives him more "protections" and his parents have more say, if they know the loopholes.

Also, 4th Amendment - schools can't just search and seize property. Same reason Langley and other high schools got rid of lockers. Not worth the hassle with bad kids and their bad parents.

As we have seen here, where do you think these kids learn their behaviors?

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Anonymous wrote:Parents were arrested. They didn't seem to be "on the run" as previously reported. They were literally in the house their car was found at.

Nothing says “not on the run” like hiding in the basement of a warehouse.

Exactly! They were in the commercial district of Detroit in the middle of the night, the New York Times says. No one in their right mind goes there at that time.

This is one shady as f@ck couple.

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Yup. Always looking for loopholes for their treacherous behaviors, and teaching the kid the same. Gross.

I'm convinced they're drug dealers and that's why they ran. They know either their son is going to rat them out when being questioned or the police will find something in their house when they search it with warrants for the trial.

Interesting theory. Agree there is something more going on.

Also- realize that posters here are speculating. We don’t KNOW that the school asked the parents to take the kid home the that day and they refused. It could have been one of those soft discipline meetings that ends well with everyone agreeing to “do better.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

They can't. He might be "in a certain situation" (before all this), which gives him more "protections" and his parents have more say, if they know the loopholes.

Also, 4th Amendment - schools can't just search and seize property. Same reason Langley and other high schools got rid of lockers. Not worth the hassle with bad kids and their bad parents.

As we have seen here, where do you think these kids learn their behaviors?

1) they had reasonable suspicion to search backpack
2)even without a search, they could have should have notified police, made a report, and had the kid brought home (for to a psych hospital). But they school didn’t because the parents were being a PIA and they thought it would just be easier to send him back to class than to poke a hornets nest (the ahole parents)

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In one of the news articles, the sheriff stated that the school strongly encouraged the parents to take him home and they refused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

They can't. He might be "in a certain situation" (before all this), which gives him more "protections" and his parents have more say, if they know the loopholes.

Also, 4th Amendment - schools can't just search and seize property. Same reason Langley and other high schools got rid of lockers. Not worth the hassle with bad kids and their bad parents.

As we have seen here, where do you think these kids learn their behaviors?

YES they could have MADE him leave.

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Didn’t his note from the day before say help me and that he couldn’t stop the thoughts? That isn’t a sociopath. That is a seriously broken person calling out for help. Teens make really bad decisions even from good homes. You take a teen boy who has a serious mental health problem, combined with what appears to be the worst possible parents in the world, feed him with violent video games and encourage him to think violence is cool and that his family is aggrieved by the world, and hand him an auto-matic weapon. We’ll never know if this kid could have been different if raised by sane people who got him help and kept him away from guns—maybe he would have improved or maybe not. His life is ruined now and he’ll never come back from his, obviously.
And by saying that, I’m not forgetting the many other lives he has ruined, or saying that he doesn’t deserve the maximum punishment.

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Anonymous wrote:That kid wasn’t bullied. He was probably ignored and ostracized because kids can TELL when someone is “off.” They can’t verbalize why but they know the dangerous kids and they avoid them for self preservation. These kids aren’t bullied. They ARE the bullies.

His parents will probably blame: screens, school closures, bullying, CRT. It’s just their kid. And them.

-high school teacher

I was bullied a lot in middle and high school. Kids ripped up my books, cut my hair, punched, sexually abused me, and more. Teachers saw it happen but they were buddy-buddy with the cool kids and didn’t want to risk their relationships that made them, the adult, feel cool. So no one ever did anything.

I wouldn’t ever trust a teacher to know or be honest about who is a bully.

But you didn’t shoot up a school. I’m not here to discuss your trauma or issue with teachers . I’m here to dispel the myth that school shooters are bullied. They’re not. They’re sociopaths and kids know it in their gut and avoid them.

Totally agree. I always told my kids not to be unkind to those kids but don’t befriend them either. Just try to be invisible to them so they won’t think of you either way if they crack. I dunno if that was the right tactic but we’re basically helpless. The schools won’t do anything, the parents won’t do anything until it is too late.

You had to tell your children not to be unkind to others?

DP- Um yeah that’s called parenting them. You know, teaching them how to treat others?

^ Thank you - told my kids most days of their lives to be kind and polite. I also told them to say please and thank you and not to leave their shoes in the middle of the foyer.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

The amount of ignorance and misogyny being spread in this post is disgusting. PP you are an uneducated dunce.

Honestly, he looks like every other teenage boy. This age is filled with arrogance and eye rolling. I’ve seen the same look on my son’s face when I get on him to finish chores. Or the teenagers on his soccer team when I tell them to pick up all the cones after practice. I know they are really thinking “leave me the f alone”, but they do what they are told. You can’t tell “low IQ” or anything.

This is no eyeroll.

I’m the high school teacher PP again. All teenage boys DO NOT look like this. His eyes are completely empty. Cold. Devoid of emotion. It is not normal and when we and the kids have to see this in class every day, we KNOW it isn’t right and there’s something wrong. We document document document and pray he doesn’t do anything. The kids avoid.

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Anonymous wrote:In one of the news articles, the sheriff stated that the school strongly encouraged the parents to take him home and they refused.

So? If the school felt he was unsafe to himself or others then they call police to report it and take him home. They didn’t need parental corporation to have him safely removed.

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t the school MAKE them take him home?

They can't. He might be "in a certain situation" (before all this), which gives him more "protections" and his parents have more say, if they know the loopholes.

Also, 4th Amendment - schools can't just search and seize property. Same reason Langley and other high schools got rid of lockers. Not worth the hassle with bad kids and their bad parents.

As we have seen here, where do you think these kids learn their behaviors?

YES they could have MADE him leave.

You want to believe that but without actual violence being done and the parents refusing, there’s not actually grounds. Policy fails us every time.