Does Georgetown want DMV students?

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

Yes, it is.

Their outcomes are not even close.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

It is. It is literally (a large part of) why people go to TJ, to go to UVA.

I don't think that is true. Fewer have been going. More have been going OOS to good STEM programs.

I mean why would somebody bust their butt at TJ just to go to UVA when all you need is. 3.4 and no d’s or f’s at a junior college for guaranteed admission? It’s a sign of lack of common sense if you are that mixed up.

Thought it was a 3.5.

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Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

And this has to do with...? Certainly not the OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

Yes, it is.

This is how biased and ridiculous DCUM people are. Are you kidding? Duke is a borderline top 10, and when is the last time UVA cracked top 10?

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

Yes, it is.

This is how biased and ridiculous DCUM people are. Are you kidding? Duke is a borderline top 10, and when is the last time UVA cracked top 20?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

Georgetown is ranked 23. UVA is ranked 26. UMD is ranked 58. UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's. UMD's is the same as Syracuse's. UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and ahead of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U. UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

Georgetown is ranked 23. UVA is ranked 26. UMD is ranked 58. UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's. UMD's is the same as Syracuse's. UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and ahead of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U. UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

US News "says it all?"

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is not full of Ivy rejects, if so you can say the same about Cornell or even Brown. With that being said Gtown is a bit overrated. Unless it's SFS ; Nova students should save the money and go to UVA. If they have they money and just need to go Private Cornell, Emory, Vandy, Notre Dame , and (if they can get in) Duke are much better options.

Saying Vanderbilt, Emory, or even Notre Dame are better options than Georgetown is just dumb

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By every measure Notre Dame is a better school. For one thing, it has ten times the money that Georgetown has. TEN times.

Yet it's in South Bend and Georgetown is in Georgetown. The academics are not going to be much different, let alone "much better" at Notre Dame. If anything Georgetown has always had a very rigorous curriculum in the humanities.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is not full of Ivy rejects, if so you can say the same about Cornell or even Brown. With that being said Gtown is a bit overrated. Unless it's SFS ; Nova students should save the money and go to UVA. If they have they money and just need to go Private Cornell, Emory, Vandy, Notre Dame , and (if they can get in) Duke are much better options.

Saying Vanderbilt, Emory, or even Notre Dame are better options than Georgetown is just dumb

These schools have more money for financial aid, they are ranked higher ( Vandy by alot). Georgetown has a great location and that's it. It's overrated like NYU, USC and most of the other schools in big time cities.

Comparing Georgetown to NYU and USC now, they are not even the same type of schools in any way.

Ranking higher is really irrelevant, and the ranking difference is minor to begin with. After the top 5 (Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT) and the Ivies (just because lay prestige), the privates up until ~25 are very strong in certain areas and very weak in others.

If anything, most people would consider Georgetown to be more rigorous than Vanderbilt, Emory, etc in the humanities. and certainly more prestigious.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

Georgetown is ranked 23. UVA is ranked 26. UMD is ranked 58. UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's. UMD's is the same as Syracuse's. UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and ahead of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U. UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

UMD is ranked in the 50's for world reputation rankings (both USNews and ARWU) while UVA is >100 for both (ranked "150-200" by ARWU).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

Georgetown is ranked 23. UVA is ranked 26. UMD is ranked 58. UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's. UMD's is the same as Syracuse's. UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and ahead of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U. UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

US News "says it all?"

A school's reputation is the most important thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

Georgetown is ranked 23. UVA is ranked 26. UMD is ranked 58. UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's. UMD's is the same as Syracuse's. UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and ahead of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U. UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

UMD is ranked in the 50's for world reputation rankings (both USNews and ARWU) while UVA is >100 for both (ranked "150-200" by ARWU).

Based entirely on research output. Has nothing to do with undergraduate reputation and little to do with US reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing.

Hopkins and Georgetown are ranked ahead of UVA in US news. UMD is ranked ahead of UVA in every difficult major, every world university ranking, dominates in research spending and has more national championships, Nobel/Emmy/academy award/Pulitzer/fields medal alumni than all Virginia schools put together. USNA is so much more important than UVA that it’s pitiful.
The North side of the river is dominant in higher education.

Georgetown is ranked 23. UVA is ranked 26. UMD is ranked 58. UVA's rank is the same as Carnegie Mellon's. UMD's is the same as Syracuse's. UVA"s reputation ranking by US News is 18th, tied with Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon and Rice and ahead of Georgetown, UCLA and Wash U. UMD is 43rd in this ranking, tied with UC-Irvine and Case Western.

Says it all.

UMD is ranked in the 50's for world reputation rankings (both USNews and ARWU) while UVA is >100 for both (ranked "150-200" by ARWU).

Based entirely on research output. Has nothing to do with undergraduate reputation and little to do with US reputation.

1. Research output is entirely why schools like MIT, Harvard, Caltech, Stanford et. al. and routinely considered among the best. To argue research has nothing to do with undergraduate reputation is utterly ignorant.

2. The USNews global rankings is based on world reputation, not research output. Meaning they surveyed academics from across the world. Which is much better than what the USNews Reputation Ranking does, surveying American high school counselors (lmao)

[Anonymous]

I got into Georgetown as an “unconnected nobody” (parents are UMC immigrants) - raised in CCMD and attended B-CC. There were lots of kids from this area in my graduating class, though many of them went to private schools. One of my roommates was from Silver Spring and went to Blair. I don’t think DMV area applicants had a disadvantage, but there just might be more of them since Georgetown is well known here. Of course, this was about 10 years ago, so things may have changed since then.