Does Georgetown want DMV students?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

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If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

You need to stop posting on every single college thread, PP. You single-handedly defend UVA even when it's very far from the subject at hand, and that's not a good look for the school you are desperately trying to protect. You bringing up Rhodes scholars and your Oxford-bound UVA grad at every opportunity is NOT HELPING. People are going to think UVA families are crazy.

Let the UVA record speak for itself, and don't rise to people's bait all the dang time.

The truth hurts, doesn't it? A state flagship with 55 Rhodes and Georgetown has only 27. A state flagship which is the largest producer of Rhodes of all of the publics in America.
And UVa has only 16,000 students compared to the 40,000 at UCLA or 7,564 at Georgetown. If Georgetown was that much more selective wouldn't it have a higher quality of student in its 7,654? Then why doesn't it rack up the international scholarships? And I didn't bring up UVA. Someone started this thread to bash on the DMV students so of course UVA came up on page one or two. Those are other posters. There's a lot of us that are tired of people who didn't get into UVA or have loved ones who didn't get in so start threads and then introduce UVA to start the bashing. It's a shame. But it is a distinct pattern in this forum.

You are a one trick pony. UVA grads received 110 Fulbright scholarships from 2009 to 2019. Georgetown grads received 211. UVA has 17,000 undergraduates. Georgetown has about 7,500. On a per capita basis, UVA only produces 23% as many as Georgetown. If you did the math on your greatly overused Rhodes scholarship stat, you would see that Georgetown is more productive at producing Rhodes Scholars (since that is evidently the greatest of all possible measures of institutional quality) than UVA. In fact, many schools are

It pains me to say this but the UVA booster is a hot mess. If the poster's numbers are correct (and they may not be because s/he doesn't even realize her errors) then as a % of student population for Rhodes scholars, Georgetown performs better than UVA. Georgetown has fewer than half the students of UVA yet more than half of the Rhodes scholars that UVA has.

To the UVA poster: please stop. You are embarrassing the rest of us. Your writing is subpar and your math logic is astoundingly bad. I am glad you are proud of our school but you are dragging us all down with your posts. STOP IT! Based on your posts I would choose Georgetown in a hot second rather than have to claim you as a fellow alum. Just sayin'.

I competed for the Rhodes and the Marshall. The PP is correct. The number of students a University has has no bearing on the Rhodes competition. A school as small as 500 can recommend an applicant, so can a school of 40,000. The decision of whom to interview in person is made at the district level. The district committee evaluates all of the applications from schools within that district and selects those students whom they want to interview in person. This describes the process. https://www.shemmassianconsulting.com/blog/rhodes-scholar, In other words, the fact that UVA has more students has nothing to do with the fact that it is a huge producer of Rhodes Scholars, every single year (and Marshall, too).

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

+100

If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

You need to stop posting on every single college thread, PP. You single-handedly defend UVA even when it's very far from the subject at hand, and that's not a good look for the school you are desperately trying to protect. You bringing up Rhodes scholars and your Oxford-bound UVA grad at every opportunity is NOT HELPING. People are going to think UVA families are crazy.

Let the UVA record speak for itself, and don't rise to people's bait all the dang time.

The truth hurts, doesn't it? A state flagship with 55 Rhodes and Georgetown has only 27. A state flagship which is the largest producer of Rhodes of all of the publics in America.
And UVa has only 16,000 students compared to the 40,000 at UCLA or 7,564 at Georgetown. If Georgetown was that much more selective wouldn't it have a higher quality of student in its 7,654? Then why doesn't it rack up the international scholarships? And I didn't bring up UVA. Someone started this thread to bash on the DMV students so of course UVA came up on page one or two. Those are other posters. There's a lot of us that are tired of people who didn't get into UVA or have loved ones who didn't get in so start threads and then introduce UVA to start the bashing. It's a shame. But it is a distinct pattern in this forum.

You are a one trick pony. UVA grads received 110 Fulbright scholarships from 2009 to 2019. Georgetown grads received 211. UVA has 17,000 undergraduates. Georgetown has about 7,500. On a per capita basis, UVA only produces 23% as many as Georgetown. If you did the math on your greatly overused Rhodes scholarship stat, you would see that Georgetown is more productive at producing Rhodes Scholars (since that is evidently the greatest of all possible measures of institutional quality) than UVA. In fact, many schools are

It pains me to say this but the UVA booster is a hot mess. If the poster's numbers are correct (and they may not be because s/he doesn't even realize her errors) then as a % of student population for Rhodes scholars, Georgetown performs better than UVA. Georgetown has fewer than half the students of UVA yet more than half of the Rhodes scholars that UVA has.

To the UVA poster: please stop. You are embarrassing the rest of us. Your writing is subpar and your math logic is astoundingly bad. I am glad you are proud of our school but you are dragging us all down with your posts. STOP IT! Based on your posts I would choose Georgetown in a hot second rather than have to claim you as a fellow alum. Just sayin'.

I competed for the Rhodes and the Marshall. The PP is correct. The number of students a University has has no bearing on the Rhodes competition. A school as small as 500 can recommend an applicant, so can a school of 40,000. The decision of whom to interview in person is made at the district level. The district committee evaluates all of the applications from schools within that district and selects those students whom they want to interview in person. This describes the process. https://www.shemmassianconsulting.com/blog/rhodes-scholar, In other words, the fact that UVA has more students has nothing to do with the fact that it is a huge producer of Rhodes Scholars, every single year (and Marshall, too).

UVA supporters don't do math or logic. You are trying to say that since any school can potentially produce a Rhodes Scholar, it doesn't make any difference that UVA has many more students who may potentially become a Rhodes Scholar than a much smaller school with far fewer students. Really?