Does Georgetown want DMV students?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

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If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

Funny, when it's a UVA detractor, UVA suddenly becomes poor, which is a negative compared (allegedly) to UVA. But when they want to detract from UVA then they claim falsely that it's a bunch of rich kids.

Nevertheless, for the Georgetown person who started this thread to bash on UVA, I think we get it. Sour grapes. I think you're done. Georgetown has been on a downward slope for some time. And why haven't you mentioned the slaves owned and sold by the Jesuits while we're at it? And the filthy dorms? And the costs?

UVA has plenty of kids from all walks of life which is why it is a great PUBLIC school. Georgetown is private and $77K a year. My sister went to Georgetown and the Law School. She didn't like it and thought it a huge waste of money but she lived in D.C. and didn't have good in-state options. Stop bashing UVA during a crisis year when many families are really really counting on getting into one of the top Virginia schools because they were financially slammed. You are coming off incredibly elitist and entitled.

Claiming OP started this thread to bash UVA is rather weird consider the OP has absolutely no mention of UVA, and its UVA boosters that came into this thread to bash on Georgetown for some reason - two schools that really don't attract the same type of student.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

+100

If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

Funny, when it's a UVA detractor, UVA suddenly becomes poor, which is a negative compared (allegedly) to UVA. But when they want to detract from UVA then they claim falsely that it's a bunch of rich kids.

Nevertheless, for the Georgetown person who started this thread to bash on UVA, I think we get it. Sour grapes. I think you're done. Georgetown has been on a downward slope for some time. And why haven't you mentioned the slaves owned and sold by the Jesuits while we're at it? And the filthy dorms? And the costs?

UVA has plenty of kids from all walks of life which is why it is a great PUBLIC school. Georgetown is private and $77K a year. My sister went to Georgetown and the Law School. She didn't like it and thought it a huge waste of money but she lived in D.C. and didn't have good in-state options. Stop bashing UVA during a crisis year when many families are really really counting on getting into one of the top Virginia schools because they were financially slammed. You are coming off incredibly elitist and entitled.

Claiming OP started this thread to bash UVA is rather weird consider the OP has absolutely no mention of UVA, and its UVA boosters that came into this thread to bash on Georgetown for some reason - two schools that really don't attract the same type of student.

again it was not a booster that mentioned UVA, it was a pot stirrer just looking to liven up the discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is a lot harder to get in. UVA has lower stats and all you need is a 3.4 from junior college. It’s a free for all.

You are wrong on both counts. It's very difficult to get into UVA. You now need to be top 6% of public high school class. My kid was valedictorian. Last year the 75th percentile of ENROLLED (not accepted, which is higher) was a 4.48 gpa, 4.34 median and 4.20 for the bottom 25th percentile of the class. SATs were 1490/1420/1330. ACT scores were 1490/1420/1330. But all of that has changed with covid and the only kids getting in are the tippy-top students. The rest are waitlisted. Go read UVA ED/EA 2025. And read the same on college confidential. Due to covid many families are reassessing their financial prospects and deciding that $80K a year in after tax dollars no longer makes sense for a private school. Plus students who could not get a test or chose not to are doing hail marys this year at the top schools, so UVA had a 37% increase in applications to almost 50,000 for 3,750 slots. 968 of those went to ED students. Of the 28,897 who have applied EA, 6,286 were offered slots. 692 first-generation students were offered admission ED or EA. Because this year is so bizarre, no one really can assess how many of the 6,286 EA students will accept for the roughly 2,700 slots left after ED. That's why there is so many applicants going to deferral and ultimately waitlist this year. On a related thread, someone here calculated there are only "possibly" (depending on return from EA class) a few hundred seats left for 38,000 applicants.

As to transfer, you need a 3.7 from Nova - which is a COLLEGE GPA not a high school GPA. That is not easy to obtain. And you need it in certain subjects. Only 30% are accepted and only about 600 show up junior year. The 3.5 figure is for other categories than unhooked from NOVA. The guaranteed transfer program is tough and hard to meet with a community college GPA. Here are the specifics per major. https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission. It's an excellent program that allows some Virginians the chance to go to UVA (or the other virginia colleges) in a financially smart way.

There is nothing similar going on at Georgetown. Please stop making threads to bash schools

That is not correct. The increase in all applications was 17%. Also, the VCCS agreement with the College of Arts and Sciences is a 3.4 GPA.

You are reading something signed by Teresa Sullivan in November 2013. She left UVA years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is a lot harder to get in. UVA has lower stats and all you need is a 3.4 from junior college. It’s a free for all.

You are wrong on both counts. It's very difficult to get into UVA. You now need to be top 6% of public high school class. My kid was valedictorian. Last year the 75th percentile of ENROLLED (not accepted, which is higher) was a 4.48 gpa, 4.34 median and 4.20 for the bottom 25th percentile of the class. SATs were 1490/1420/1330. ACT scores were 1490/1420/1330. But all of that has changed with covid and the only kids getting in are the tippy-top students. The rest are waitlisted. Go read UVA ED/EA 2025. And read the same on college confidential. Due to covid many families are reassessing their financial prospects and deciding that $80K a year in after tax dollars no longer makes sense for a private school. Plus students who could not get a test or chose not to are doing hail marys this year at the top schools, so UVA had a 37% increase in applications to almost 50,000 for 3,750 slots. 968 of those went to ED students. Of the 28,897 who have applied EA, 6,286 were offered slots. 692 first-generation students were offered admission ED or EA. Because this year is so bizarre, no one really can assess how many of the 6,286 EA students will accept for the roughly 2,700 slots left after ED. That's why there is so many applicants going to deferral and ultimately waitlist this year. On a related thread, someone here calculated there are only "possibly" (depending on return from EA class) a few hundred seats left for 38,000 applicants.

As to transfer, you need a 3.7 from Nova - which is a COLLEGE GPA not a high school GPA. That is not easy to obtain. And you need it in certain subjects. Only 30% are accepted and only about 600 show up junior year. The 3.5 figure is for other categories than unhooked from NOVA. The guaranteed transfer program is tough and hard to meet with a community college GPA. Here are the specifics per major. https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission. It's an excellent program that allows some Virginians the chance to go to UVA (or the other virginia colleges) in a financially smart way.

There is nothing similar going on at Georgetown. Please stop making threads to bash schools

That is not correct. The increase in all applications was 17%. Also, the VCCS agreement with the College of Arts and Sciences is a 3.4 GPA.

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increase in ED applications to UVA was 38%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is a lot harder to get in. UVA has lower stats and all you need is a 3.4 from junior college. It’s a free for all.

You are wrong on both counts. It's very difficult to get into UVA. You now need to be top 6% of public high school class. My kid was valedictorian. Last year the 75th percentile of ENROLLED (not accepted, which is higher) was a 4.48 gpa, 4.34 median and 4.20 for the bottom 25th percentile of the class. SATs were 1490/1420/1330. ACT scores were 1490/1420/1330. But all of that has changed with covid and the only kids getting in are the tippy-top students. The rest are waitlisted. Go read UVA ED/EA 2025. And read the same on college confidential. Due to covid many families are reassessing their financial prospects and deciding that $80K a year in after tax dollars no longer makes sense for a private school. Plus students who could not get a test or chose not to are doing hail marys this year at the top schools, so UVA had a 37% increase in applications to almost 50,000 for 3,750 slots. 968 of those went to ED students. Of the 28,897 who have applied EA, 6,286 were offered slots. 692 first-generation students were offered admission ED or EA. Because this year is so bizarre, no one really can assess how many of the 6,286 EA students will accept for the roughly 2,700 slots left after ED. That's why there is so many applicants going to deferral and ultimately waitlist this year. On a related thread, someone here calculated there are only "possibly" (depending on return from EA class) a few hundred seats left for 38,000 applicants.

As to transfer, you need a 3.7 from Nova - which is a COLLEGE GPA not a high school GPA. That is not easy to obtain. And you need it in certain subjects. Only 30% are accepted and only about 600 show up junior year. The 3.5 figure is for other categories than unhooked from NOVA. The guaranteed transfer program is tough and hard to meet with a community college GPA. Here are the specifics per major. https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission. It's an excellent program that allows some Virginians the chance to go to UVA (or the other virginia colleges) in a financially smart way.

There is nothing similar going on at Georgetown. Please stop making threads to bash schools

That is not correct. The increase in all applications was 17%. Also, the VCCS agreement with the College of Arts and Sciences is a 3.4 GPA.

You are reading something signed by Teresa Sullivan in November 2013. She left UVA years ago.

It is still in effect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Well, one of the reasons being that's not necessarily true, especially in the humanities and international affairs (which are ironically UVA's strength compared to other publics)

Georgetown is also much smaller, located in a great part of DC, attracts a very large number of students from across the world that tend to be political/financial elites of their respective countries.

Much better than attending a school full of rural public school kids who can't keep up, 66% in-state and the rest being upper-middle-class suburbanites from NYC metro.

If tuition and cost of living are not an issue, these are very good reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA.

UVA is 34k a year in state. Georgetown is 76k. Georgetown has a paltry endowment, a tiny campus, and is largely populated by Ivy League rejects. It is not known in broad academic circles as better than UVA. They're considered peer institutions. Even if money isn't an issue, there's no reason to attend Georgetown over UVA.

Pffffft....lies from the pits of Hades!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

+100

If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges like to boast that they have students from all across the country so is it harder to get into Georgetown if you’re from the DC area? I can see them wanting politicians’ kids or students related to influential DC power brokers but if you’re just an unconnected nobody does living here hurt your chances?

Then apply to USC, Vandy, Emory, WashU, Rice, U of ND, BU, BC... These schools would love to have DC kids, cuz, "Colleges like to boast that they have students from all across the country!" Go with the flow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges like to boast that they have students from all across the country so is it harder to get into Georgetown if you’re from the DC area? I can see them wanting politicians’ kids or students related to influential DC power brokers but if you’re just an unconnected nobody does living here hurt your chances?

Then apply to USC, Vandy, Emory, WashU, Rice, U of ND, BU, BC... These schools would love to have DC kids, cuz, "Colleges like to boast that they have students from all across the country!" Go with the flow.

No one chooses BU or BC over UVA even if UVA is OOS.

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So how did local DC students fare with Gtown admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:So how did local DC students fare with Gtown admissions?

I don’t think anyone really cares. The schools attract different student bodies. OP was just trying to stir the pot which is why the thread died until you revived it.

[Anonymous]

Rejected by GT, UNC and UVA, but just got into Michigan.

It's a crapshoot.

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GT being Georgetown, not Georgia Tech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rejected by GT, UNC and UVA, but just got into Michigan.

It's a crapshoot.

Those were tough school admissions this year. It has been a crapshoot. Congratulations on Michigan!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.