Does Georgetown want DMV students?

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Well, one of the reasons being that's not necessarily true, especially in the humanities and international affairs (which are ironically UVA's strength compared to other publics)

Georgetown is also much smaller, located in a great part of DC, attracts a very large number of students from across the world that tend to be political/financial elites of their respective countries.

Much better than attending a school full of rural public school kids who can't keep up, 66% in-state and the rest being upper-middle-class suburbanites from NYC metro.

If tuition and cost of living are not an issue, these are very good reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA.

UVA is 34k a year in state. Georgetown is 76k. Georgetown has a paltry endowment, a tiny campus, and is largely populated by Ivy League rejects. It is not known in broad academic circles as better than UVA. They're considered peer institutions. Even if money isn't an issue, there's no reason to attend Georgetown over UVA.

Very weird post. Georgetown is full of Ivy rejects and UVA is full of community college students with guaranteed admissions.

There are various reasons to attend UVA over Georgetown. Some being money, majoring in engineering/natural sciences, wanting a smaller college town, wanting a larger student population, wanting Greek life, etc.

There are also various reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA. Much smaller school, better humanities and foreign affairs, located in a great neighborhood of DC, no Greek Life, stronger student population on average, etc.

The fact that you can't envision why one would choose Georgetown over UVA reflects rather poorly on you.

My point is that there's little reason for a NOVA grad to choose Georgetown over UVA. Not anyone in the world. Sure, all things being equal I can see it being a closer call. Parchment says that 2 out of 3 students who apply to and get into both choose Georgetown, but the vast majority of UVA applicants are from out of state so that makes sense. For NOVA grads alone I'll bet the numbers are far different.

But maybe the NOVA grads are just smarter/more discerning than you. That seems highly likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

It is. It is literally (a large part of) why people go to TJ, to go to UVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

According to the New York Times, there are only five universities in the US where students come from richer households than Georgetown: Wash U, Colgate, Washington & Lee, Middlebury and Colby. What all of these schools have in common is that they are a second choice for most students. So, yea, if your DD prefers a second choice school for really rich kids, go for it!

How is this remotely relevant or helpful to OP? She’s not asking about wealth.

She's characterizing UVA's student body, so I want to make sure she understands what Georgetown's is. Fair game.

Fair game?! How petty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

You don't work for Georgetown. I do, and I know what you said isn't true.

??? What a weird thing to say. I do work there. I'm not sure what I said that you know not to be true, but I'd be interested to know. Is it the admissions tip thing? I've heard it's true, but I don't have ironclad confirmation. Anyway, share what you know....

[Anonymous]

I chose Georgetown over UVA. The internship opportunities available (during the school year, not just the summer) are phenomenal.

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Georgetown is Jesuit Catholic University. I know DC/VA/MD kids that attend Catholic HS that go there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is Jesuit Catholic University. I know DC/VA/MD kids that attend Catholic HS that go there.

*attended

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

It is. It is literally (a large part of) why people go to TJ, to go to UVA.

Kids go to TJHSST to get into top colleges throughout the US especially in engineering, i.e. MIT, Stanford, etc, as TJHSST has a larger profile and a tougher curriculum that prepares students for these schools.

Getting into UVA from a NoVA high school requires great grades and SAT scores, but going to TJHSST is no where close to necessary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

According to the New York Times, there are only five universities in the US where students come from richer households than Georgetown: Wash U, Colgate, Washington & Lee, Middlebury and Colby. What all of these schools have in common is that they are a second choice for most students. So, yea, if your DD prefers a second choice school for really rich kids, go for it!

Weird post. Plenty of Ivy rejects in UVA as well, and out of the ones you listed, only Wash U. is regularly cited as "second-choice" because its in St. Louis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP and my DD wants a smaller school that is not so Greek and southern-feeling and she thinks she’d like to go to a school where most kids aren’t from VA. She’s not insulting UVA, which is great for people who want that type of school. Plus, isn’t UVA super hard to get into from NOVA anyway?

According to the New York Times, there are only five universities in the US where students come from richer households than Georgetown: Wash U, Colgate, Washington & Lee, Middlebury and Colby. What all of these schools have in common is that they are a second choice for most students. So, yea, if your DD prefers a second choice school for really rich kids, go for it!

Weird post. Plenty of Ivy rejects in UVA as well, and out of the ones you listed, only Wash U. is regularly cited as "second-choice" because its in St. Louis.

The top 25 schools at least are full of Ivy rejects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work at Georgetown. Lots of children of staff/faculty attend because of the major tuition discount; I believe they get an admissions tip, as well. Totally speculating here, but I wonder if it’s harder for other DC-area kids to get in because of that?

That's not what's causing it. In NOVA at least, it's UVA. UVA is the same reason why you don't see as many NOVA students applying to Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, etc. Again, why would you go to any of those schools if money is at all of an issue? You can quibble all you want over which of these is "better," but there's no denying that in academic circles they're all considered to be in the same tier. Ask any random sampling of professors or students at any one of these schools and the majority will agree.

UVA is certainly not in Duke's tier.

Any time somebody uses the word tier, I know I can ignore. Thanks for making it easy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Well, one of the reasons being that's not necessarily true, especially in the humanities and international affairs (which are ironically UVA's strength compared to other publics)

Georgetown is also much smaller, located in a great part of DC, attracts a very large number of students from across the world that tend to be political/financial elites of their respective countries.

Much better than attending a school full of rural public school kids who can't keep up, 66% in-state and the rest being upper-middle-class suburbanites from NYC metro.

If tuition and cost of living are not an issue, these are very good reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA.

UVA is 34k a year in state. Georgetown is 76k. Georgetown has a paltry endowment, a tiny campus, and is largely populated by Ivy League rejects. It is not known in broad academic circles as better than UVA. They're considered peer institutions. Even if money isn't an issue, there's no reason to attend Georgetown over UVA.

Very weird post. Georgetown is full of Ivy rejects and UVA is full of community college students with guaranteed admissions.

There are various reasons to attend UVA over Georgetown. Some being money, majoring in engineering/natural sciences, wanting a smaller college town, wanting a larger student population, wanting Greek life, etc.

There are also various reasons to attend Georgetown over UVA. Much smaller school, better humanities and foreign affairs, located in a great neighborhood of DC, no Greek Life, stronger student population on average, etc.

The fact that you can't envision why one would choose Georgetown over UVA reflects rather poorly on you.

My point is that there's little reason for a NOVA grad to choose Georgetown over UVA. Not anyone in the world. Sure, all things being equal I can see it being a closer call. Parchment says that 2 out of 3 students who apply to and get into both choose Georgetown, but the vast majority of UVA applicants are from out of state so that makes sense. For NOVA grads alone I'll bet the numbers are far different.

Seriously, what part of students having:
1. No monetary issue

and preferring:
2. Much smaller school
3. Great neighborhood in the capital of the US
4. Career opportunities from living in said neighborhood/capital
5. Stronger humanities and foreign affairs programs
6. No Greek life
7. Student population largely composed of those from across US/world rather than 66% in-state & rest from NYC metro

Do you not understand?

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When my kid talked to his guidance counselor (for an Arlington County School), he was told that virtually no student from the high school with decently high grades/scores would apply to Georgetown (even kids who could go for free on aid) because it is so close, unless a parent worked there.

On a different note, I have told that it is impossible to get into Harvard/MIT from the Boston area, unless a kid is flat out amazing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

If cheaper is better, sure. But academically? That's not true.