Does Georgetown want DMV students?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.

It takes much higher stats to get into UVA than Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.

+1

No question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.

+1

No question.

Why are people called "strivers" and "boosters" when they challenge you with statistics? After all, UVA has produced far more Rhodes Scholars than Georgetown. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. Does that make me a "booster" to mention that? And what even is a "striver"? That's an idiotic term. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy). Am I a booster or striver for raising that point?

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

My DD is one of the lucky ones who gets to go to Oxford this fall. If it had not been for the amazing letters from Dean Groves, and four other UVA professors, and the education in the classics, history and philosophy that she received at UVA, I doubt she would have made it in. UVA really supports the students who want to do grad work and who want to study abroad. And we are in-state. Can't beat that.

There are a lot of UVA students at Oxford and Cambridge right now. That's all I need to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.

+1

No question.

Why are people called "strivers" and "boosters" when they challenge you with statistics? After all, UVA has produced far more Rhodes Scholars than Georgetown. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. Does that make me a "booster" to mention that? And what even is a "striver"? That's an idiotic term. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy). Am I a booster or striver for raising that point?

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

My DD is one of the lucky ones who gets to go to Oxford this fall. If it had not been for the amazing letters from Dean Groves, and four other UVA professors, and the education in the classics, history and philosophy that she received at UVA, I doubt she would have made it in. UVA really supports the students who want to do grad work and who want to study abroad. And we are in-state. Can't beat that.

There are a lot of UVA students at Oxford and Cambridge right now. That's all I need to know.

It’s not about you, PP. There are a lot more objective criteria, including publication output and quality of research, that go into making the worldwide reputation of an institution. UVA, despite being great at some things, is lacking in others, so it doesn’t measure up to other, more well-rounded, institutions. This is not a diss on UVA but just a cold hard look at all the things that turn a good uni into an excellent uni.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.

+1

No question.

Why are people called "strivers" and "boosters" when they challenge you with statistics? After all, UVA has produced far more Rhodes Scholars than Georgetown. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. Does that make me a "booster" to mention that? And what even is a "striver"? That's an idiotic term. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy). Am I a booster or striver for raising that point?

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

My DD is one of the lucky ones who gets to go to Oxford this fall. If it had not been for the amazing letters from Dean Groves, and four other UVA professors, and the education in the classics, history and philosophy that she received at UVA, I doubt she would have made it in. UVA really supports the students who want to do grad work and who want to study abroad. And we are in-state. Can't beat that.

There are a lot of UVA students at Oxford and Cambridge right now. That's all I need to know.

You do know that UVA has about 4.5 times as many students as Georgetown, right? YOur Rhodes Scholars number isn't 4.5 times higher.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown is a better school by every metric. Fin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is a better school by every metric. Fin.

+1

Other PP thinks she is in the majority thinking that UVA is "it". HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

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If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

You need to stop posting on every single college thread, PP. You single-handedly defend UVA even when it's very far from the subject at hand, and that's not a good look for the school you are desperately trying to protect. You bringing up Rhodes scholars and your Oxford-bound UVA grad at every opportunity is NOT HELPING. People are going to think UVA families are crazy.

Let the UVA record speak for itself, and don't rise to people's bait all the dang time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

+100

If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

You need to stop posting on every single college thread, PP. You single-handedly defend UVA even when it's very far from the subject at hand, and that's not a good look for the school you are desperately trying to protect. You bringing up Rhodes scholars and your Oxford-bound UVA grad at every opportunity is NOT HELPING. People are going to think UVA families are crazy.

Let the UVA record speak for itself, and don't rise to people's bait all the dang time.

The truth hurts, doesn't it? A state flagship with 55 Rhodes and Georgetown has only 27. A state flagship which is the largest producer of Rhodes of all of the publics in America.
And UVa has only 16,000 students compared to the 40,000 at UCLA or 7,564 at Georgetown. If Georgetown was that much more selective wouldn't it have a higher quality of student in its 7,654? Then why doesn't it rack up the international scholarships? And I didn't bring up UVA. Someone started this thread to bash on the DMV students so of course UVA came up on page one or two. Those are other posters. There's a lot of us that are tired of people who didn't get into UVA or have loved ones who didn't get in so start threads and then introduce UVA to start the bashing. It's a shame. But it is a distinct pattern in this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're gonna get into Georgetown from NOVA you're also going to get into UVA. Why pay double for Georgetown when UVA is a better school?

Er, this is a joke, right? Georgetown is ranked much higher in all the reputable rankings.

This UVA booster really has to shut up.

+1

No question.

Why are people called "strivers" and "boosters" when they challenge you with statistics? After all, UVA has produced far more Rhodes Scholars than Georgetown. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. Does that make me a "booster" to mention that? And what even is a "striver"? That's an idiotic term. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy). Am I a booster or striver for raising that point?

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

My DD is one of the lucky ones who gets to go to Oxford this fall. If it had not been for the amazing letters from Dean Groves, and four other UVA professors, and the education in the classics, history and philosophy that she received at UVA, I doubt she would have made it in. UVA really supports the students who want to do grad work and who want to study abroad. And we are in-state. Can't beat that.

There are a lot of UVA students at Oxford and Cambridge right now. That's all I need to know.

You do know that UVA has about 4.5 times as many students as Georgetown, right? YOur Rhodes Scholars number isn't 4.5 times higher. [/quote]


No, you are counting in grad students as well. They cannot apply for the Rhodes. UVA has 17,000 undergrads. Georgetown has 7,463 Undergrads. However, you don't know much about the Rhodes because the size of your institution doesn't matter. You, the applicant, need obtain the sponsorship of your college or university. Some years, a college won't nominate anyone, because the college wants to put its best forward. Other years, a college or university might sponsor two. If sponsored, your application then goes to the regional committee who decides whom they want to interview. The 2,200 applicants are culled down to a reasonable size and those 30 or so that are considered Rhodes material are invited to a regional meet-and-greet. Mine was held at Stanford. I represented a very small college of only 1600 students. The other candidates were Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc., but whom claimed home base in that particular region (a familiar Rhodes trick - don't do regionals in Massachusetts - always return to your home state). The first night is a meet and greet. The next day is interviews by the panel. The third day is a dinner and announcement of the two of those who made it to regional who get to go. I had just as much of a chance as the Harvard nominees (except that I had not been extensively coached as they had). To that extent, it's a very fair system, because a brilliant kid with a brilliant proposal of research at Cal State Long Beach has just as much as chance of getting it as does someone from a tiny SLAC or UCLA. Selection has nothing to do with size of school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

+100

If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

You need to stop posting on every single college thread, PP. You single-handedly defend UVA even when it's very far from the subject at hand, and that's not a good look for the school you are desperately trying to protect. You bringing up Rhodes scholars and your Oxford-bound UVA grad at every opportunity is NOT HELPING. People are going to think UVA families are crazy.

Let the UVA record speak for itself, and don't rise to people's bait all the dang time.

The truth hurts, doesn't it? A state flagship with 55 Rhodes and Georgetown has only 27. A state flagship which is the largest producer of Rhodes of all of the publics in America.
And UVa has only 16,000 students compared to the 40,000 at UCLA or 7,564 at Georgetown. If Georgetown was that much more selective wouldn't it have a higher quality of student in its 7,654? Then why doesn't it rack up the international scholarships? And I didn't bring up UVA. Someone started this thread to bash on the DMV students so of course UVA came up on page one or two. Those are other posters. There's a lot of us that are tired of people who didn't get into UVA or have loved ones who didn't get in so start threads and then introduce UVA to start the bashing. It's a shame. But it is a distinct pattern in this forum.

You are a one trick pony. UVA grads received 110 Fulbright scholarships from 2009 to 2019. Georgetown grads received 211. UVA has 17,000 undergraduates. Georgetown has about 7,500. On a per capita basis, UVA only produces 23% as many as Georgetown. If you did the math on your greatly overused Rhodes scholarship stat, you would see that Georgetown is more productive at producing Rhodes Scholars (since that is evidently the greatest of all possible measures of institutional quality) than UVA. In fact, many schools are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we can all agree that Georgetown is one of the most overrated schools.

I'm not sure overrated is the right term. I just don't think Georgetown will provide advantages over UVA or William and Mary to people in NOVA. Perhaps the biggest advantage would be internships in D.C. during the school year, but I believe both UVA and William and Mary have programs that enable this.

+100

If you want to be in DC, all three schools carry equal and considerable connections and weight. That Georgetown has more alums in high places in foreign governments is irrelevant. There is no reason for a NOVA kid to pay more than double for Georgetown.

You UVA boosters are a pathetic bunch. Georgetown kids mix with far wealthier and more connected kids than the average UVA kid. Only if your kid is a shoo-in for a top tier sorority or fraternity in Charlottesville will they be in a similar orbit. Those connections last a lifetime. And will influence not only your kid's career but the social circle they meet their spouse in as well.

I think you are quite wrong. It's not about connections to the "far wealthier and more connected kids than the average (?) UVA kid" (do you have any idea what it takes to get in there now?). As to influence on a "kid's career", I can't think of anything that would influence a career more than a Rhodes Scholarship. UVA has 55 Rhodes Scholars. Georgetown has only 27. In fact, UVA is the third-highest producer outside the Ivy League of Rhodes Scholars (all private w/ exception of the U.S. Military Academy).

UVA is also the number one public school for producer of Fulbrights; with 22 recipients for 2019-20 and 17 for 2018.

UVA changed my kid's life. He's at Oxford doing graduate work. If it had not been for UVA's help (great letters of recommendation and a dedicated office to the 81 fellowships and scholarships it obtains for students every year), I don't think he would have been accepted. But your results may vary.

You need to stop posting on every single college thread, PP. You single-handedly defend UVA even when it's very far from the subject at hand, and that's not a good look for the school you are desperately trying to protect. You bringing up Rhodes scholars and your Oxford-bound UVA grad at every opportunity is NOT HELPING. People are going to think UVA families are crazy.

Let the UVA record speak for itself, and don't rise to people's bait all the dang time.

The truth hurts, doesn't it? A state flagship with 55 Rhodes and Georgetown has only 27. A state flagship which is the largest producer of Rhodes of all of the publics in America.
And UVa has only 16,000 students compared to the 40,000 at UCLA or 7,564 at Georgetown. If Georgetown was that much more selective wouldn't it have a higher quality of student in its 7,654? Then why doesn't it rack up the international scholarships? And I didn't bring up UVA. Someone started this thread to bash on the DMV students so of course UVA came up on page one or two. Those are other posters. There's a lot of us that are tired of people who didn't get into UVA or have loved ones who didn't get in so start threads and then introduce UVA to start the bashing. It's a shame. But it is a distinct pattern in this forum.

You are a one trick pony. UVA grads received 110 Fulbright scholarships from 2009 to 2019. Georgetown grads received 211. UVA has 17,000 undergraduates. Georgetown has about 7,500. On a per capita basis, UVA only produces 23% as many as Georgetown. If you did the math on your greatly overused Rhodes scholarship stat, you would see that Georgetown is more productive at producing Rhodes Scholars (since that is evidently the greatest of all possible measures of institutional quality) than UVA. In fact, many schools are

It pains me to say this but the UVA booster is a hot mess. If the poster's numbers are correct (and they may not be because s/he doesn't even realize her errors) then as a % of student population for Rhodes scholars, Georgetown performs better than UVA. Georgetown has fewer than half the students of UVA yet more than half of the Rhodes scholars that UVA has.

To the UVA poster: please stop. You are embarrassing the rest of us. Your writing is subpar and your math logic is astoundingly bad. I am glad you are proud of our school but you are dragging us all down with your posts. STOP IT! Based on your posts I would choose Georgetown in a hot second rather than have to claim you as a fellow alum. Just sayin'.

[Anonymous]

Why are all the UVA posters on this thread about Georgetown? Please stay in your lane.

My DC (and several of DC's classmates) from a local private got into Gtown. It doesn't seem to me that Gtown has any issues with accepting students from the surrounding zip codes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are all the UVA posters on this thread about Georgetown? Please stay in your lane.

My DC (and several of DC's classmates) from a local private got into Gtown. It doesn't seem to me that Gtown has any issues with accepting students from the surrounding zip codes.

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Stats?

[Anonymous]

OMG this is a Georgetown thread PP - start your own UVA thread!