Georgia Senate voting to end absentee balloting

[Anonymous]

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You can have all the water that you want. You can have a Big Mac if you want, you just have to bring it with you. So for those of you that can't go without drinking or eating you should bring something. What it says is that you can't pass out water bottles and snacks to people waiting as it could be construed as trying to influence a voter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

You can have all the water that you want. You can have a Big Mac if you want, you just have to bring it with you. So for those of you that can't go without drinking or eating you should bring something. What it says is that you can't pass out water bottles and snacks to people waiting as it could be construed as trying to influence a voter.

Who was influenced this time around? How many pizzas did Pizza to the Polls deliver? Your excuse for this fascism is bull sht and you should be aware we know that you’re full of sht.

Maybe if the Grand Old Fascists weren’t hell bent on making voting as tedious and miserable as possible, people wouldn’t have to wait in line for hours, thereby negating the need for anyone to need to deliver food and water.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is also good news from one (other) state

You didn't follow what happened in Nevada, did you? Lots of problems with the mail in voting. One election was thrown out (at least for a while) because of possible fraud.

If it's good enough for conservative Utah, it's good enough for the 49 other states.

Depends on where the drop boxes are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can have all the water that you want. You can have a Big Mac if you want, you just have to bring it with you. So for those of you that can't go without drinking or eating you should bring something. What it says is that you can't pass out water bottles and snacks to people waiting as it could be construed as trying to influence a voter.

Who was influenced this time around? How many pizzas did Pizza to the Polls deliver? Your excuse for this fascism is bull sht and you should be aware we know that you’re full of sht.

Maybe if the Grand Old Fascists weren’t hell bent on making voting as tedious and miserable as possible, people wouldn’t have to wait in line for hours, thereby negating the need for anyone to need to deliver food and water.

Bingo. Every single one of you supporting these vote suppression measures should be ASHAMED. Of course we know you have none. Party over country, right? Because we know you can't win without these disgusting attempts to gut democracy.

[Anonymous]

Remember the 90s MTV commercials that encouraged everyone to get out and vote? What’s the issue with everyone physically going to the poles and voting? If you work or have a physical ailment, request and absentee ballot. Done. Next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember the 90s MTV commercials that encouraged everyone to get out and vote? What’s the issue with everyone physically going to the poles and voting? If you work or have a physical ailment, request and absentee ballot. Done. Next.

Yes, I remember those. Why do you oppose efforts to make it easier for people to exercise their right to vote? That's unamerican.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

No one is underestimating anyone's resourcefulness. We are calling out the racism you display by trying to stop poc from voting. Racist.

[Anonymous]

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Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Biden certainly does if you listened to his Town Hall.

And, the part about not having access to ID is ridiculous.

Have you tried to get an ID lately? It's not easy.

You need a lot of paperwork that the poor or homeless or elderly won't have.

And with covid, there are months long waiting times. I have to renew in May. In December I logged in to get an appointment...
None available until the end of May.

We had to go through hell and high water to get proper identification for my mom post 911. She and her siblings weren't born in a hospital and back then there were no birth certificates. Almost 2 years for us to get this resolved. This is a person born and raised in the US with over 8 decades of proof. It included me flying to Tn and going to the appropriate govt agency to meet people in person. They still refused even though 5 of her siblings, whom they use as references, had completed the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

Biden certainly does if you listened to his Town Hall.

And, the part about not having access to ID is ridiculous.

Have you tried to get an ID lately? It's not easy.

You need a lot of paperwork that the poor or homeless or elderly won't have.

And with covid, there are months long waiting times. I have to renew in May. In December I logged in to get an appointment...
None available until the end of May.

We had to go through hell and high water to get proper identification for my mom post 911. She and her siblings weren't born in a hospital and back then there were no birth certificates. Almost 2 years for us to get this resolved. This is a person born and raised in the US with over 8 decades of proof. It included me flying to Tn and going to the appropriate govt agency to meet people in person. They still refused even though 5 of her siblings, whom they use as references, had completed the process.

This is exactly the kind of situation that anti-voter ID people hated the new requirements for IDs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

I’ve lived in a poor area of Georgia. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s not nothing to do with the resourcefulness of poor people. It’s about putting barriers in place to make it harder for them to vote. It’s about restricting physical access to the polls. It’s about restricting polling locations so that poor people have to travel further to polls and wait hours outside. It’s about removing voter registrations so that people cannot vote when they are at the polling station (this happened to Stacey Abrams). It’s about gerrymandering districts so that the GOP will always win. I could go on. I’d like to know about your experience living and working in these circumstances in Georgia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

I’ve lived in a poor area of Georgia. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s not nothing to do with the resourcefulness of poor people. It’s about putting barriers in place to make it harder for them to vote. It’s about restricting physical access to the polls. It’s about restricting polling locations so that poor people have to travel further to polls and wait hours outside. It’s about removing voter registrations so that people cannot vote when they are at the polling station (this happened to Stacey Abrams). It’s about gerrymandering districts so that the GOP will always win. I could go on. I’d like to know about your experience living and working in these circumstances in Georgia.

+1000000

Republicans know the only way they can win in places like Georgia is by oppressing poor black voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tyranny of the minority at play. It is the ONLY way the GOP can "win"

Too bad a party of people with such conviction can't develop winning arguments as to why people should vote for them, so they have to resort to this.

How long can this country hold together?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

I’ve lived in a poor area of Georgia. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s not nothing to do with the resourcefulness of poor people. It’s about putting barriers in place to make it harder for them to vote. It’s about restricting physical access to the polls. It’s about restricting polling locations so that poor people have to travel further to polls and wait hours outside. It’s about removing voter registrations so that people cannot vote when they are at the polling station (this happened to Stacey Abrams). It’s about gerrymandering districts so that the GOP will always win. I could go on. I’d like to know about your experience living and working in these circumstances in Georgia.

It's also about restricting the hours of early voting to normal working hours for the poor. And with the poor public transportation, someone that is poor might have to take off an entire day of work to go and vote. Even here in the DC metro area which has far better public transportation than many rural areas, the public transportation options take a lot of time. My wife is visually disabled and cannot drive. If I cannot drive her places, then it can take her 2 hours to get to places if she is traveling outside of rush hour. Public transportation runs less frequently in less popular areas. So if you live in a rural area and you are used to leaving home 1-2 hours before your work and getting home 1-2 hours after your shift is over, then trying to take off 4-6 hours in the middle of the day, to go and vote is a non-starter. Some of these people live paycheck to paycheck and while they can build the commute into their life-style, they can't handle losing 20% of a week's pay just to go and vote.

Also, there are places, like where my sister lives in Houston, that they restrict the number of early voting sites. Harris County, the county for Houston, is larger than the state of Rhode Island. It takes an hour driving in non-rush hour to get from the outskirts of the county to the board of elections offices. In rush hour, it is 1.5-2 hours driving time (and Houston's rush hours are horrible). If you need to take public transit, add an hour to that. And during last November's election, Texas restricted early voting to exactly one location per county. So, for the people who live on the fringes of the county, at the hours that the early voting site was open, the commute on public transportation to the ONLY early voting site was 3-4 hours each way because it was only open during business hours on weekdays, when the traffic was bad. If you were not trying to get there with the rush hour busses, then the busses ran once per hour. If you are so poor that you don't own a car (especially in Texas), then you really could not afford to take a day off work to go downtown to vote at the only early voting site available.

It's just as bad in many conservative rural areas. Lack of decent regular public transportation, restricting voting hours to when most of the working poor are working, eliminating vote-by-mail, all serve to make voting virtually impossible for the poor.

I agree with PP^2, that you are an entitled rich person who has no idea how the poor live and what roadblocks are created to disenfranchise them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then GA should also make voting day a day off so people can go vote. But, they won't because then poor people might vote more.

Why? They have early voting in GA. Surely, they can find a time that works for them.

https://georgia.gov/early-voting

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?

Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

What do you think is gained by setting up a system that requires a certain (Black) group of the population to be resourceful in order to vote?

[Anonymous]

Much of Georgia does not have great public transportation, and some areas have none at all. How are poor people without transportation going to get to the polls?


Same way they get to the market or to church or to any of the other places they go during their life.
I am sure Stacey Abrams' group has transportation available. If they want to vote, they'll get to the polls.
I think you underestimate the resourcefulness of poor people.

What do you think is gained by setting up a system that requires a certain (Black) group of the population to be resourceful in order to vote?

Why do they need Stacy Abrams to arrange transportation? Answer: they don't. That's insulting.