Organized sock puppetry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hello so people want numbers with my statistics ok

As this is DCUM let's focus on the DMV and total deaths for simplicity

All stats via basic google searches

Total deaths

DC 231 assume 3/4 are older folks and/or folks with preexisting conditions 58 normal people deaths
MD 1,047 over 50% Nursing Homes 500 1/2+ preexisting 250 normal people deaths
VA 552 over 50% Nursing Homes 250 1/2+ preexisting 125 normal people deaths

For the math below I'm taking total total state population divided by 2 to find out healthy adult population

DC 58/350000 = .016% death rate for healthy adults
MD 250/3000000 = .0083% death rate for healthy adults
VA 125/4500000 = .0028% death rate for healthy adults

NP here. If you’re not going to back up your “stats” with sources or links then don’t even bother discussing numbers and percentages. We need to see the sources of your information.

Well she is also using the entire state population as the denominator for the death rate, which only makes sense if everyone in the state was infected? Is that really what I am seeing? Similar issue with the stroke rate. Also seems like the percentage of ‘normal healthy’ adults is completely made up? I feel like either I am crazy or talking to a crazy person. Links are crucial too.

[Anonymous]

I pretty much only post on politics, so I haven’t noticed this, but I’ve been on here enough years that I’ve realized that there’s an ebb and flow to post styles. I absolutely have noticed an uptick in conservative posts that are almost spammy in terms of their intensity and number of posts.

The thread about the women’s soccer team not being allowed to re-negotiate their contract is a good example of it. Gross and misogynistic posts with a decidedly mean and angry tone that seemed to have arrived in fairly rapid fashion. I’m pretty quick to report, Jeff, but I don’t want to be a whiner reporter. They’re just btchy and annoying and relentless like it’s their job.

[Anonymous]

When all of this started, there was an extremely high level of anxiety and paranoia about the virus on dcum, and most people were in favor of the extreme measures of lockdown and social isolation. Now there are such a large number posters in favor of reopening, of accepting the virus’ presence and letting the chips fall where they may - it feels like the majority. Maybe it’s just quarantine fatigue, and maybe people have calmed down as more information and data has become available, but the change in tone and content has been striking — the cautious, fearful, pro-distancing folks who dominated the forums early on have been outnumbered and drowned out, to some extent. So I understand why OP might wonder if there is some kind of organized group in favor of opening up deliberately causing traffic, though I don’t necessariky think that’s the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When all of this started, there was an extremely high level of anxiety and paranoia about the virus on dcum, and most people were in favor of the extreme measures of lockdown and social isolation. Now there are such a large number posters in favor of reopening, of accepting the virus’ presence and letting the chips fall where they may - it feels like the majority. Maybe it’s just quarantine fatigue, and maybe people have calmed down as more information and data has become available, but the change in tone and content has been striking — the cautious, fearful, pro-distancing folks who dominated the forums early on have been outnumbered and drowned out, to some extent. So I understand why OP might wonder if there is some kind of organized group in favor of opening up deliberately causing traffic, though I don’t necessariky think that’s the case.

I think that is the purpose.

It isn't a majority statistically, or probably even amongst regular DCUM users or most people's personal social groups, but by having a number of fast, aggressive and loud posts on anyone who dares speak differently they attempt to create an illusion that everyone is dying to reopen.

The shrillness betrays their lack of support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hello so people want numbers with my statistics ok

As this is DCUM let's focus on the DMV and total deaths for simplicity

All stats via basic google searches

Total deaths

DC 231 assume 3/4 are older folks and/or folks with preexisting conditions 58 normal people deaths
MD 1,047 over 50% Nursing Homes 500 1/2+ preexisting 250 normal people deaths
VA 552 over 50% Nursing Homes 250 1/2+ preexisting 125 normal people deaths

For the math below I'm taking total total state population divided by 2 to find out healthy adult population

DC 58/350000 = .016% death rate for healthy adults
MD 250/3000000 = .0083% death rate for healthy adults
VA 125/4500000 = .0028% death rate for healthy adults

NP here. If you’re not going to back up your “stats” with sources or links then don’t even bother discussing numbers and percentages. We need to see the sources of your information.

Well she is also using the entire state population as the denominator for the death rate, which only makes sense if everyone in the state was infected? Is that really what I am seeing? Similar issue with the stroke rate. Also seems like the percentage of ‘normal healthy’ adults is completely made up? I feel like either I am crazy or talking to a crazy person. Links are crucial too.

Morons of DCUM type google covid 19 all the stats are there you freaking idiots

seriously you people are morons

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hello so people want numbers with my statistics ok

As this is DCUM let's focus on the DMV and total deaths for simplicity

All stats via basic google searches

Total deaths

DC 231 assume 3/4 are older folks and/or folks with preexisting conditions 58 normal people deaths
MD 1,047 over 50% Nursing Homes 500 1/2+ preexisting 250 normal people deaths
VA 552 over 50% Nursing Homes 250 1/2+ preexisting 125 normal people deaths

For the math below I'm taking total total state population divided by 2 to find out healthy adult population

DC 58/350000 = .016% death rate for healthy adults
MD 250/3000000 = .0083% death rate for healthy adults
VA 125/4500000 = .0028% death rate for healthy adults

NP here. If you’re not going to back up your “stats” with sources or links then don’t even bother discussing numbers and percentages. We need to see the sources of your information.

Well she is also using the entire state population as the denominator for the death rate, which only makes sense if everyone in the state was infected? Is that really what I am seeing? Similar issue with the stroke rate. Also seems like the percentage of ‘normal healthy’ adults is completely made up? I feel like either I am crazy or talking to a crazy person. Links are crucial too.

She is a moron who doesn’t understand basic math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all of this started, there was an extremely high level of anxiety and paranoia about the virus on dcum, and most people were in favor of the extreme measures of lockdown and social isolation. Now there are such a large number posters in favor of reopening, of accepting the virus’ presence and letting the chips fall where they may - it feels like the majority. Maybe it’s just quarantine fatigue, and maybe people have calmed down as more information and data has become available, but the change in tone and content has been striking — the cautious, fearful, pro-distancing folks who dominated the forums early on have been outnumbered and drowned out, to some extent. So I understand why OP might wonder if there is some kind of organized group in favor of opening up deliberately causing traffic, though I don’t necessariky think that’s the case.

I think that is the purpose.

It isn't a majority statistically, or probably even amongst regular DCUM users or most people's personal social groups, but by having a number of fast, aggressive and loud posts on anyone who dares speak differently they attempt to create an illusion that everyone is dying to reopen.

The shrillness betrays their lack of support.

Well that’s a strange conclusion when op is the one who openly wants Jeff to delete any post of an opposing viewpoint to her own. Maybe hypocritical is a better word than strange.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the same talking points being posted her as new threads in several forums, the same talking points I see Trumper friends posting on Facebook.

[/b]If only posts had "report" buttons that could be used. That would change everything. But, apparently no such thing exists so posters are left to piss into the wind in this thread.

Hahaha had to be said! Geezus people how may times does he have to tell you to [b]REPORT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all of this started, there was an extremely high level of anxiety and paranoia about the virus on dcum, and most people were in favor of the extreme measures of lockdown and social isolation. Now there are such a large number posters in favor of reopening, of accepting the virus’ presence and letting the chips fall where they may - it feels like the majority. Maybe it’s just quarantine fatigue, and maybe people have calmed down as more information and data has become available, but the change in tone and content has been striking — the cautious, fearful, pro-distancing folks who dominated the forums early on have been outnumbered and drowned out, to some extent. So I understand why OP might wonder if there is some kind of organized group in favor of opening up deliberately causing traffic, though I don’t necessariky think that’s the case.

I think that is the purpose.

It isn't a majority statistically, or probably even amongst regular DCUM users or most people's personal social groups, but by having a number of fast, aggressive and loud posts on anyone who dares speak differently they attempt to create an illusion that everyone is dying to reopen.

The shrillness betrays their lack of support.

Well that’s a strange conclusion when op is the one who openly wants Jeff to delete any post of an opposing viewpoint to her own. Maybe hypocritical is a better word than strange.

That’s not what OP said at all. MAGA morons can’t do math OR read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all of this started, there was an extremely high level of anxiety and paranoia about the virus on dcum, and most people were in favor of the extreme measures of lockdown and social isolation. Now there are such a large number posters in favor of reopening, of accepting the virus’ presence and letting the chips fall where they may - it feels like the majority. Maybe it’s just quarantine fatigue, and maybe people have calmed down as more information and data has become available, but the change in tone and content has been striking — the cautious, fearful, pro-distancing folks who dominated the forums early on have been outnumbered and drowned out, to some extent. So I understand why OP might wonder if there is some kind of organized group in favor of opening up deliberately causing traffic, though I don’t necessariky think that’s the case.

I think that is the purpose.

It isn't a majority statistically, or probably even amongst regular DCUM users or most people's personal social groups, but by having a number of fast, aggressive and loud posts on anyone who dares speak differently they attempt to create an illusion that everyone is dying to reopen.

The shrillness betrays their lack of support.

Well that’s a strange conclusion when op is the one who openly wants Jeff to delete any post of an opposing viewpoint to her own. Maybe hypocritical is a better word than strange.

+100
Beat me to it. The only people who post "loudly and aggressively" in response to anyone who dares to speak differently are liberals, trying to quash anyone who expresses a wish to reopen. OP is a perfect example. She is terrified that anyone with the desire to reopen be heard. "SHRILL" is the perfect description of her post, and others who are threatened by opposing opinions.

And actually, we see this all over DCUM (but particularly on the Political Forum). Liberals can't stand it when their views are challenged and questioned. That's when they throw their tantrums, insult conservatives, and insist that dissenting POVs be deleted. It's all so predictable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hello so people want numbers with my statistics ok

As this is DCUM let's focus on the DMV and total deaths for simplicity

All stats via basic google searches

Total deaths

DC 231 assume 3/4 are older folks and/or folks with preexisting conditions 58 normal people deaths
MD 1,047 over 50% Nursing Homes 500 1/2+ preexisting 250 normal people deaths
VA 552 over 50% Nursing Homes 250 1/2+ preexisting 125 normal people deaths

For the math below I'm taking total total state population divided by 2 to find out healthy adult population

DC 58/350000 = .016% death rate for healthy adults
MD 250/3000000 = .0083% death rate for healthy adults
VA 125/4500000 = .0028% death rate for healthy adults

NP here. If you’re not going to back up your “stats” with sources or links then don’t even bother discussing numbers and percentages. We need to see the sources of your information.

Well she is also using the entire state population as the denominator for the death rate, which only makes sense if everyone in the state was infected? Is that really what I am seeing? Similar issue with the stroke rate. Also seems like the percentage of ‘normal healthy’ adults is completely made up? I feel like either I am crazy or talking to a crazy person. Links are crucial too.

She is a moron who doesn’t understand basic math.

It's just as reasonable as using another number, such as confirmed infections, as the denominator. The actual number of infections is unknown. It is undoubtedly higher than the confirmed infections. This has been true with similar pandemics. Second, the poster is calcuting their total risk of catching and dying from COVID-19. It's certainly approximate given we don't know the true infection numbers or considering other factors like the uneven distribution of cases. But her risk is still quite low as this time.

The actual infection rate is somewhere between one to three orders of magnitude above the confirmed infection rate. This tempers those spouting the nonsense 5% number. Deaths are under reported as well but we don't see the same error there. We do have an upper bound for those. There aren't significant numbers of undiscovered dead people.

[Anonymous]

14:17 is spot on. Contrary to all polling, these new DCUM posts try to convey the message that everyone wants to open now rather than gradually and according to guidelines.

[Anonymous]

What are you going to do when even the NYT shows that for healthy adults this thing is no worse than the flu % wise

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/health/coronavirus-patients-risk.html?algo=identity&fellback=false&imp_id=10012267&imp_id=242444031&action=click&module=Science%20%20Technology&pgtype=Homepage

vast vast majority of hospitalizations are people with preexisting conditions period

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are you going to do when even the NYT shows that for healthy adults this thing is no worse than the flu % wise

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/health/coronavirus-patients-risk.html?algo=identity&fellback=false&imp_id=10012267&imp_id=242444031&action=click&module=Science%20%20Technology&pgtype=Homepage

vast vast majority of hospitalizations are people with preexisting conditions period

Now you figure out what percentage of Americans have at least one of those conditions.

I'll give you a head start. Over 40% of Americans, including our President, are obese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:14:17 is spot on. Contrary to all polling, these new DCUM posts try to convey the message that everyone wants to open now rather than gradually and according to guidelines.

Nothing makes people less credible than wacky conspiracy theories. People post their opinions, no one is coordinating to convey anything, I think it was the right wingers with the tin foil hats, but op is proving there are people with unjustified paranoia on both sides of the political spectrum.