The reason I can't go with DE

[Anonymous]

OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

Wow, op. Just wow. How truly shameful.

[Anonymous]

OP is a loser. I pity her children.

[Anonymous]

You must have a really sad life, OP. Please get help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

OP here - I have no idea who that is but it's certainly not me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

OP here - I have no idea who that is but it's certainly not me.

Sure.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

OP here - I have no idea who that is but it's certainly not me.

Didn't you post this thread:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/796918.page

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

OP here - I have no idea who that is but it's certainly not me.

Didn't you post this thread:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/796918.page

No, I sure didn't.
I can't possibly imagine being this involved in IVF and be posting that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:is that I feel very strongly that my husband would be procreating with another woman and I would be a surrogate for them.
Reproduction can also be asexual, it's nevertheless reproduction between two individuals who are merging their DNA to create a separate human being.
And although I would be gestating a baby I know the overriding power of genetics (have majored in biology with focus on cell biology). While epigenetics play role, they play role equally in genetic mothers and non-genetic mothers. In other words, who ever carries a baby can influence which genes are switched on or off. However, no one can influence the DNA encoded in them. That is simply inherited form a genetic parent. Example: if you hire a surrogate to carry your own genetic embryo she can epigeneticially influence a fetus but genes are 100% yours. Many studies of siblings who grew up apart prove the power of genes. Most recent studies of diseases and longevity have proved that genes have overriding power. I feel that sometimes clinics and counselors try to comfort women using DE with epigenetics marketing. Anyhow, I have considered DE and I logically cannot accept that it's not a big deal when it is.

OP. I feel the same. I couldn't do DE for the exact reasons you listed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here - Let me add that in case of a divorce and if a legal mother gets full custody you are basically in for a life of raising a child that is genetically someone else's plus from a husband you divorced. I understand that many women place a lot of emphasis on gestation but per my first post I see it the same as surrogate. One could argue that a surrogate that carries fetus of a couple that cannot carry should also play a huge role in a baby's life.
I feel that with encoded genetics of someone else you are simply helping that woman reproduce. It is the genes of all her ancestors passed down in your child. Yes, you can influence a child. But that brings us down to debate of nature vs nurture and many, many new studies have shown that nature wins.
Thirdly, you cannot erase a donor. It's not something that cannot conveniently be swept up under a rug. A donor is present in every fiber of your child. So, that is a third person in marriage.

That is a fascinating and very apt way of describing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP who are you trying to convince ?

OP here - I am expressing my own thoughts and feelings about issues that are for some reason not discussed openly. We are told, mostly by REs, that this is a normal thing and that we should accept it at face value.

It is shocking at how blase RE's are about this.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP why did you feel the need to post here? Just to be cruel to people struggling with infertility? You are apparently pregnant in your second trimester.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/797265.page

OP here - I have no idea who that is but it's certainly not me.

Didn't you post this thread:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/796918.page

No, I sure didn't.
I can't possibly imagine being this involved in IVF and be posting that.

Your posts and the original post of that thread came from the same computer -- a Macintosh. Do you share your computer with a pregnant woman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know that there are open ID donors who the child can meet at some point, and also ways to connect with half-siblings, right?

Like, don't do anything you're not comfortable with, obviously, but you seem to think that this is some kind of scam to get you to "raise someone else's child." It's not and nobody who parents a DE child sees it that way.

But many DE/DS conceived children come to see it that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here - Let me add that in case of a divorce and if a legal mother gets full custody you are basically in for a life of raising a child that is genetically someone else's plus from a husband you divorced. I understand that many women place a lot of emphasis on gestation but per my first post I see it the same as surrogate. One could argue that a surrogate that carries fetus of a couple that cannot carry should also play a huge role in a baby's life.
I feel that with encoded genetics of someone else you are simply helping that woman reproduce. It is the genes of all her ancestors passed down in your child. Yes, you can influence a child. But that brings us down to debate of nature vs nurture and many, many new studies have shown that nature wins.
Thirdly, you cannot erase a donor. It's not something that cannot conveniently be swept up under a rug. A donor is present in every fiber of your child. So, that is a third person in marriage.

That is a fascinating and very apt way of describing it.

How is this different than traditional adoption or embryo donation? There are 2 different people in every fiber of your child. So you have 4 people involved in your marriage. What about step children? There are also 2 other people involved in your marriage and one of them F-ed your spouse.

[Anonymous]

Wow OP. You’re terrible.