Stabbing death outside of St. Raphael’s Church in Potomac, MD

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Anonymous wrote:Poor mom. Son looks like John Hinkley. Even expression on his face looks like John Hinkley.

It’s pretty creepy, yes.

No one knows anything about this man? Where did he go to school? Nothing?

He went to Wootton. Parents are divorced...he has siblings....they are a nice normal family. She was a good mom. Please just pray for the family.

Divorced w/ kids does not equal "nice" or "normal."

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

You absolutely never know. Some kids are fine all of their lives and the severe mental illness creeps in around ages 18-20. One of my brothers had to be institutionalized for 2 years at age 20.
The problem is that nowadays people aren’t institutionalized - no one wants to pay for it is mostly the reason . I understand how people shouldn’t be put away for life — they used to institutionalize Mentally retarded people for life - but what we have now is not good at all. Mostly what they do now is a 3 day hold if they are a danger to themselves or others which does not fix anyone ( my brother has been gainfully employed for years and stable).

I sincerely hope that you don’t have to deal with this, PP.

It sounds like this mom had done many things right as her son was living in his own housing.

Where is dad?

+1 so very true and sad for individuals with mental illness and their families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poor woman!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/mother-slain-outside-church-had-previous-protective-order-against-accused-son/2018/12/31/6f5d7722-0cca-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

This is awful. So did they attend that church? Wonder why they were there.

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Anonymous wrote:Poor mom. Son looks like John Hinkley. Even expression on his face looks like John Hinkley.

It’s pretty creepy, yes.

No one knows anything about this man? Where did he go to school? Nothing?

He went to Wootton. Parents are divorced...he has siblings....they are a nice normal family. She was a good mom. Please just pray for the family.

Divorced w/ kids does not equal "nice" or "normal."

With the divorce rate in this country, it is certainly normal. And far nicer than kids growing up with parents who fight non-stop, but stay married for appearances.

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Mental illness and family genetics are often too much for even the best of parenting to overcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if the siblings are adults? Can’t imagine trying to return to school or college in January after this.

For gosh sakes that is a cruel thing to say.
Why don’t you talk about how supportive you would be of a friend or classmate that this happened to???

How is that cruel? I was being sympathetic thinking that it would be one more horrible choice to make. My DD’s grades went down the semester after her cousin was killed by the police. No matter how supportive people are, you just can’t focus completely on papers and exams.

Say something positive or be quiet.

Np- They did, you aren’t cut out for this forum, please go elsewhere.

Go ahead and whisper things behind people’s backs - You’re a real creep.

I don’t understand. Is this story about a mentally unwell son, also bringing out mentally unwell posters? Truly no one is “whispering” anything. If you are hearing whispers or voices you need to tell someone and get help. This forum is not for you.

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Poor mom. Son looks like John Hinkley. Even expression on his face looks like John Hinkley.


It’s pretty creepy, yes.

No one knows anything about this man? Where did he go to school? Nothing?


He went to Wootton. Parents are divorced...he has siblings....they are a nice normal family. She was a good mom. Please just pray for the family.


Divorced w/ kids does not equal "nice" or "normal."


With the divorce rate in this country, it is certainly normal. And far nicer than kids growing up with parents who fight non-stop, but stay married for appearances.

Amen to that. Plus having a child with a mental illness can take an enormous toll on a marriage. Consider yourself lucky if you haven't been there, but I can't imagine judging someone who has - especially this woman. Wishing peace to this family.

[Anonymous]

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Poor mom. Son looks like John Hinkley. Even expression on his face looks like John Hinkley.


It’s pretty creepy, yes.

No one knows anything about this man? Where did he go to school? Nothing?


He went to Wootton. Parents are divorced...he has siblings....they are a nice normal family. She was a good mom. Please just pray for the family.


Divorced w/ kids does not equal "nice" or "normal."


With the divorce rate in this country, it is certainly normal. And far nicer than kids growing up with parents who fight non-stop, but stay married for appearances.

Amen to that. Plus having a child with a mental illness can take an enormous toll on a marriage. Consider yourself lucky if you haven't been there, but I can't imagine judging someone who has - especially this woman. Wishing peace to this family.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if the siblings are adults? Can’t imagine trying to return to school or college in January after this.

For gosh sakes that is a cruel thing to say.
Why don’t you talk about how supportive you would be of a friend or classmate that this happened to???

How is that cruel? I was being sympathetic thinking that it would be one more horrible choice to make. My DD’s grades went down the semester after her cousin was killed by the police. No matter how supportive people are, you just can’t focus completely on papers and exams.

Say something positive or be quiet.

Np- They did, you aren’t cut out for this forum, please go elsewhere.

Go ahead and whisper things behind people’s backs - You’re a real creep.

I don’t understand. Is this story about a mentally unwell son, also bringing out mentally unwell posters? Truly no one is “whispering” anything. If you are hearing whispers or voices you need to tell someone and get help. This forum is not for you.

The subject was about speaking about the surviving children. The poster had opinions about them being back in school and out in public after this and I would again state that if you can’t be supportive and nurturing to the surviving children then don’t go near them. No gossiping about them or how they should or should not be acting or about whether they should be back at school and their regular lives or not. No judgement just support. Even if your great niece had a hard time after a death . Leave them alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor mom. Son looks like John Hinkley. Even expression on his face looks like John Hinkley.

It’s pretty creepy, yes.

No one knows anything about this man? Where did he go to school? Nothing?

He went to Wootton. Parents are divorced...he has siblings....they are a nice normal family. She was a good mom. Please just pray for the family.

Divorced w/ kids does not equal "nice" or "normal."

With the divorce rate in this country, it is certainly normal. And far nicer than kids growing up with parents who fight non-stop, but stay married for appearances.

What??
Even if that was really true, you don’t get a choice as two people must agree to that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if the siblings are adults? Can’t imagine trying to return to school or college in January after this.

For gosh sakes that is a cruel thing to say.
Why don’t you talk about how supportive you would be of a friend or classmate that this happened to???

How is that cruel? I was being sympathetic thinking that it would be one more horrible choice to make. My DD’s grades went down the semester after her cousin was killed by the police. No matter how supportive people are, you just can’t focus completely on papers and exams.

Say something positive or be quiet.

Np- They did, you aren’t cut out for this forum, please go elsewhere.

Go ahead and whisper things behind people’s backs - You’re a real creep.

I don’t understand. Is this story about a mentally unwell son, also bringing out mentally unwell posters? Truly no one is “whispering” anything. If you are hearing whispers or voices you need to tell someone and get help. This forum is not for you.

The subject was about speaking about the surviving children. The poster had opinions about them being back in school and out in public after this and I would again state that if you can’t be supportive and nurturing to the surviving children then don’t go near them. No gossiping about them or how they should or should not be acting or about whether they should be back at school and their regular lives or not. No judgement just support. Even if your great niece had a hard time after a death . Leave them alone.

No honey, and I’m trying to go easy on you here, because you obviously have some sort of issue here. I originally thought you were just trolling. I don’t know what this horrible tragedy has stirred up for you, but If you want to discuss trauma from your own past, please start another thread.
The top person here isn’t talking in specifics, not really. They are echoing an empathetic statement that just about any other human shares. The idea of moving on after a personal horror. It wasn’t cruel or creepy.
That you can’t see that means this thread is not for you, and that’s ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor mom. Son looks like John Hinkley. Even expression on his face looks like John Hinkley.

It’s pretty creepy, yes.

No one knows anything about this man? Where did he go to school? Nothing?

He went to Wootton. Parents are divorced...he has siblings....they are a nice normal family. She was a good mom. Please just pray for the family.

Divorced w/ kids does not equal "nice" or "normal."

You're a terrible person to say this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poor woman!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/mother-slain-outside-church-had-previous-protective-order-against-accused-son/2018/12/31/6f5d7722-0cca-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

Sad sad sad, but will anything be done about this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poor woman!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/mother-slain-outside-church-had-previous-protective-order-against-accused-son/2018/12/31/6f5d7722-0cca-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

Sad sad sad, but will anything be done about this?

Probably not. When it happened to Creigh Deeds some things happened for a while ( more beds were made available for emergency mental health treatment). Until it happens repeatedly to some important people nothing will change. That’s what it looks like.

[Anonymous]

Father with same first and last name comes up on the case search quite a bit. Years of financial trouble leading up to a 2012 divorce. Poor family. What a mess.