Stabbing death outside of St. Raphael’s Church in Potomac, MD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

My kid is a little older but I share the same fear. And not only chaos, but there really isn’t much in the way of help to deal with the situation. My son knows exactly what to say to crisis and doctors so that he doesn’t get admitted. And unless there is actual violence, the police can’t help.

I'm going to offer you some advice. It is OK to abandon a mentally ill child IF it means saving yourself or the rest of the family. I'm sure you love your child, but don't mistake love for total commitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor woman!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/mother-slain-outside-church-had-previous-protective-order-against-accused-son/2018/12/31/6f5d7722-0cca-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

Sad sad sad, but will anything be done about this?

Probably not. When it happened to Creigh Deeds some things happened for a while ( more beds were made available for emergency mental health treatment). Until it happens repeatedly to some important people nothing will change. That’s what it looks like.

The article said 'drug-induced paranoria'. That makes me think addiction rather than mental illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This kid has pages and pages of traffic violations on the MD court case search, including a DUI. How are you even allowed to drive after that? What a mess. Dude seems like a POS.

One word: Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

My kid is a little older but I share the same fear. And not only chaos, but there really isn’t much in the way of help to deal with the situation. My son knows exactly what to say to crisis and doctors so that he doesn’t get admitted. And unless there is actual violence, the police can’t help.

I'm going to offer you some advice. It is OK to abandon a mentally ill child IF it means saving yourself or the rest of the family. I'm sure you love your child, but don't mistake love for total commitment.

Actually it isn’t okay. It’s illegal. After that child passed newborn stage and until the age of 18 s/he is your responsibility.

[Anonymous]

This kid has pages and pages of traffic violations on the MD court case search, including a DUI. How are you even allowed to drive after that? What a mess. Dude seems like a POS.


One word: Maryland.

Nope.
Some of the violations were for driving without a license. Thanks for playing, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

My kid is a little older but I share the same fear. And not only chaos, but there really isn’t much in the way of help to deal with the situation. My son knows exactly what to say to crisis and doctors so that he doesn’t get admitted. And unless there is actual violence, the police can’t help.

I'm going to offer you some advice. It is OK to abandon a mentally ill child IF it means saving yourself or the rest of the family. I'm sure you love your child, but don't mistake love for total commitment.

Actually it isn’t okay. It’s illegal. After that child passed newborn stage and until the age of 18 s/he is your responsibility.

I think we can assume that these posters are talking about children 18 years and older. You know, like all of the boys being discussed in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor woman!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/mother-slain-outside-church-had-previous-protective-order-against-accused-son/2018/12/31/6f5d7722-0cca-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html

Sad sad sad, but will anything be done about this?

Probably not. When it happened to Creigh Deeds some things happened for a while ( more beds were made available for emergency mental health treatment). Until it happens repeatedly to some important people nothing will change. That’s what it looks like.

The article said 'drug-induced paranoria'. That makes me think addiction rather than mental illness.

Drug induced mental illness.

My brother watched himself out on every drug known to man because he was hearing voices. The voices came first. It’s hard to tease it out, but essential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

My kid is a little older but I share the same fear. And not only chaos, but there really isn’t much in the way of help to deal with the situation. My son knows exactly what to say to crisis and doctors so that he doesn’t get admitted. And unless there is actual violence, the police can’t help.

I'm going to offer you some advice. It is OK to abandon a mentally ill child IF it means saving yourself or the rest of the family. I'm sure you love your child, but don't mistake love for total commitment.

Actually it isn’t okay. It’s illegal. After that child passed newborn stage and until the age of 18 s/he is your responsibility.

I think we can assume that these posters are talking about children 18 years and older. You know, like all of the boys being discussed in this thread.

He’s 21.

And if it’s too much for you you can actually give a child up to the state when they are a minor and that child will be fully cared for by the state.
It is actually possible for it to be too much for people. Don’t judge until you try doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This kid has pages and pages of traffic violations on the MD court case search, including a DUI. How are you even allowed to drive after that? What a mess. Dude seems like a POS.


One word: Maryland.

Nope.
Some of the violations were for driving without a license. Thanks for playing, though.

And for no registration.
Again I do feel very bad for this family. Seems like they were having a hard life but mom was trying her best to keep it together.

[Anonymous]

Did anyone notice that the pastor had ‘no comment’ as to why the McGuigans were at the church?
Will that last do you think? Can he just continue to have no comment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are many families dealing with serious mental illness day-in and day-out. One way to help them is to support your local NAMI chapter.

+1 thank you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice that the pastor had ‘no comment’ as to why the McGuigans were at the church?
Will that last do you think? Can he just continue to have no comment?

He can have no comment to the press. They can’t compel him to comment. And he should refrain as the investigation is still continuing. Also, he may have absolutely no idea why they were at the church so why offer pure speculation. The church has already issued condolences. If he knows anything of legal importance, the police will speak with him.

[Anonymous]

People have shared info in the comments section.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/mother-slain-outside-church-had-previous-protective-order-against-accused-son/2018/12/31/6f5d7722-0cca-11e9-8938-5898adc28fa2_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.84f7f43225c4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

My kid is a little older but I share the same fear. And not only chaos, but there really isn’t much in the way of help to deal with the situation. My son knows exactly what to say to crisis and doctors so that he doesn’t get admitted. And unless there is actual violence, the police can’t help.

I'm going to offer you some advice. It is OK to abandon a mentally ill child IF it means saving yourself or the rest of the family. I'm sure you love your child, but don't mistake love for total commitment.

Actually it isn’t okay. It’s illegal. After that child passed newborn stage and until the age of 18 s/he is your responsibility.

I think we can assume that these posters are talking about children 18 years and older. You know, like all of the boys being discussed in this thread.

He’s 21.

And if it’s too much for you you can actually give a child up to the state when they are a minor and that child will be fully cared for by the state.
It is actually possible for it to be too much for people. Don’t judge until you try doing it.

Not as easy as you think. The state can charge you CS and for medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing I found the most tragic is that she just beat BC last summer. She must have thought the worst thing was behind her.

Not if the kid has mental health issues. Going through this now with a 12 year old son. It’s constant chaos. I read the story and wondered if someday this will be me.

My kid is a little older but I share the same fear. And not only chaos, but there really isn’t much in the way of help to deal with the situation. My son knows exactly what to say to crisis and doctors so that he doesn’t get admitted. And unless there is actual violence, the police can’t help.

I'm going to offer you some advice. It is OK to abandon a mentally ill child IF it means saving yourself or the rest of the family. I'm sure you love your child, but don't mistake love for total commitment.

Actually it isn’t okay. It’s illegal. After that child passed newborn stage and until the age of 18 s/he is your responsibility.

I think we can assume that these posters are talking about children 18 years and older. You know, like all of the boys being discussed in this thread.

He’s 21.

And if it’s too much for you you can actually give a child up to the state when they are a minor and that child will be fully cared for by the state.
It is actually possible for it to be too much for people. Don’t judge until you try doing it.

The only thing I’m judging here is people reading comprehension. You can’t abandon a child 18 years or older and it’s certainly not illegal.