How to tell another parent on the team to shut the F#%k up

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Anonymous wrote:My son played soccer on a mostly Hispanic team. People are very prejudice against Hispanic kids in soccer. We had so many issues with parents yelling at our parents and at our kids calling them names. Kids on the field would tell them to "go back to their country".

I had to get tournament officials involved on many occasions to control the way parents, kids and officials treated our team.

It's sad but true, that people think Hispanic people are 'out of control" when they are playing soccer. Yes they yell a lot in Spanish but it was no more than the other parents.

When I think of Hispanic youth soccer players, I think of those teams teams that often don't even enter the various travel programs in the area, but could easily defeat some of our top (mostly white) teams. Sorry for being racist - but not sure if I'm being racist against white players or Hispanic players - please advise.

I agree that many Hispanic families in this area can't afford the cost of travel soccer and they will demolish a white Bethesda/Potomac/etc team and play real soccer which includes body contact and then the white Bethesda people freak out, think they are fouling when they are not and call the kids names.

You are generalizing which is called an implicit bias. I am too, I am implicitly biased against rich white people because they call foul when their kids are beat at anything and need to blame the referee and dirty play.

I just wish I knew where these Hispanic kids played any type of drop-in or street soccer. Would love to have my pasty white boys play against that type of soccer to toughen them up and see what real competition is like. Only place where we've had that type of competition to date is in some of the Fairfax Sportsplex leagues. Our team kept up in many of the games, but it is a different type of soccer and you do have to play rough. But to play like that every weekend or after school is what they would love - just don't have a clue where to begin.

[Anonymous]

Check out Team America. They are based out of the Sportsplex. It seems like it would fit what you are looking for. Saturday mornings are great for the kids to just play.

[Anonymous]

What does someone who went to collage look like?

[Anonymous]

Haven't read the whole thread. I don't care how the players play soccer, but if they start playing "dirty" (injuring other kids), all bets are off. I have also been to certain kids' soccer games, where the other team had a player that just dropped - real drama, if you are not looking at the right time (always staged for when the refs are not looking, BTW). It is kind of hilarious, but partly sad, because obviously the kids were coached to do this, to fake an injury. It is rather surreal, unless you have seen it enough times to know what is actually happening - then it is just hilarious.

Sometimes the parents can be out of hand, and they are definitely NOT supposed to be coaching from the sidelines, OP. Sometimes the "tough" refs are assigned to certain games, because they know the parents will be troublesome. I have seen it. If the parents are really out of hand, just write to the commissioner with as much info as possible, so they can identify the problem, and hopefully do something about it. Parents can be banned from games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does someone who went to collage look like?

I don't know what they look like, but generally, they know how to spell college.

[Anonymous]

*dropped - as in dropped to the ground writhing in pain - real academy award style.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does someone who went to collage look like?

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Anonymous wrote:Your complaint would be a lot more credible if it weren't prefaced by a racist rant.

and a comment about " he doesnt look like he went to college"..WTF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son played soccer on a mostly Hispanic team. People are very prejudice against Hispanic kids in soccer. We had so many issues with parents yelling at our parents and at our kids calling them names. Kids on the field would tell them to "go back to their country".

I had to get tournament officials involved on many occasions to control the way parents, kids and officials treated our team.

It's sad but true, that people think Hispanic people are 'out of control" when they are playing soccer. Yes they yell a lot in Spanish but it was no more than the other parents.

When I think of Hispanic youth soccer players, I think of those teams teams that often don't even enter the various travel programs in the area, but could easily defeat some of our top (mostly white) teams. Sorry for being racist - but not sure if I'm being racist against white players or Hispanic players - please advise.

I agree that many Hispanic families in this area can't afford the cost of travel soccer and they will demolish a white Bethesda/Potomac/etc team and play real soccer which includes body contact and then the white Bethesda people freak out, think they are fouling when they are not and call the kids names.

You are generalizing which is called an implicit bias. I am too, I am implicitly biased against rich white people because they call foul when their kids are beat at anything and need to blame the referee and dirty play.

I just wish I knew where these Hispanic kids played any type of drop-in or street soccer. Would love to have my pasty white boys play against that type of soccer to toughen them up and see what real competition is like. Only place where we've had that type of competition to date is in some of the Fairfax Sportsplex leagues. Our team kept up in many of the games, but it is a different type of soccer and you do have to play rough. But to play like that every weekend or after school is what they would love - just don't have a clue where to begin.

Since this thread has gone off the rails anyway, I'll go ahead and mention that before CCL came along and segregated a lot of the teams from each other, it was easier to find what you are looking for. My son's team played against a bunch of all- or mostly-Hispanic teams in regular league play in NCSL each year. The ones I remember best were from TAFC, Essa Firpo, Annandale, and Calverton. Some of those teams were rougher or dirtier than average, and others weren't. They all tended to appreciate a skillful opponent.

[Anonymous]

What league is this?

First the center ref should kick him out. If that does not happen you should complain to the referee supervisor.
If you tell me the league I can get that information for you.

Secondly the coach should be talking to him or having the team parent explain how he cannot do this. I had to do this as the team parent - at the request of the coach. Everyone lived.

If you can't solve it have your kid switch teams - I'd recommend DC Stoddert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son played soccer on a mostly Hispanic team. People are very prejudice against Hispanic kids in soccer. We had so many issues with parents yelling at our parents and at our kids calling them names. Kids on the field would tell them to "go back to their country".

I had to get tournament officials involved on many occasions to control the way parents, kids and officials treated our team.

It's sad but true, that people think Hispanic people are 'out of control" when they are playing soccer. Yes they yell a lot in Spanish but it was no more than the other parents.

When I think of Hispanic youth soccer players, I think of those teams teams that often don't even enter the various travel programs in the area, but could easily defeat some of our top (mostly white) teams. Sorry for being racist - but not sure if I'm being racist against white players or Hispanic players - please advise.

I agree that many Hispanic families in this area can't afford the cost of travel soccer and they will demolish a white Bethesda/Potomac/etc team and play real soccer which includes body contact and then the white Bethesda people freak out, think they are fouling when they are not and call the kids names.

You are generalizing which is called an implicit bias. I am too, I am implicitly biased against rich white people because they call foul when their kids are beat at anything and need to blame the referee and dirty play.

I just wish I knew where these Hispanic kids played any type of drop-in or street soccer. Would love to have my pasty white boys play against that type of soccer to toughen them up and see what real competition is like. Only place where we've had that type of competition to date is in some of the Fairfax Sportsplex leagues. Our team kept up in many of the games, but it is a different type of soccer and you do have to play rough. But to play like that every weekend or after school is what they would love - just don't have a clue where to begin.

You would everything with your need for field permits, matching league uniforms , other organizational crap and your ultimately turning the game into a nightmare of dad instructed plays and kick and run soccer. Don't bother these people, you'd ruin everything that is good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son played soccer on a mostly Hispanic team. People are very prejudice against Hispanic kids in soccer. We had so many issues with parents yelling at our parents and at our kids calling them names. Kids on the field would tell them to "go back to their country".

I had to get tournament officials involved on many occasions to control the way parents, kids and officials treated our team.

It's sad but true, that people think Hispanic people are 'out of control" when they are playing soccer. Yes they yell a lot in Spanish but it was no more than the other parents.

When I think of Hispanic youth soccer players, I think of those teams teams that often don't even enter the various travel programs in the area, but could easily defeat some of our top (mostly white) teams. Sorry for being racist - but not sure if I'm being racist against white players or Hispanic players - please advise.

I agree that many Hispanic families in this area can't afford the cost of travel soccer and they will demolish a white Bethesda/Potomac/etc team and play real soccer which includes body contact and then the white Bethesda people freak out, think they are fouling when they are not and call the kids names.

You are generalizing which is called an implicit bias. I am too, I am implicitly biased against rich white people because they call foul when their kids are beat at anything and need to blame the referee and dirty play.

I just wish I knew where these Hispanic kids played any type of drop-in or street soccer. Would love to have my pasty white boys play against that type of soccer to toughen them up and see what real competition is like. Only place where we've had that type of competition to date is in some of the Fairfax Sportsplex leagues. Our team kept up in many of the games, but it is a different type of soccer and you do have to play rough. But to play like that every weekend or after school is what they would love - just don't have a clue where to begin.

You would everything with your need for field permits, matching league uniforms , other organizational crap and your ultimately turning the game into a nightmare of dad instructed plays and kick and run soccer. Don't bother these people, you'd ruin everything that is good.

My blonde boys have a spot where they are inevitably the only gringos. They have been going for years. They earned the "respect"--over time. Now, when they see them coming they are clamoring to have them on their side. My "smaller" son is tough as balls which I credit to playing with these kids where he was often the youngest by a few years. I also would "look the other way" whenever a 'throw-down" or fight was happening. Some of the other moms wouldn't bring their kids here anymore (not the Hispanic moms). But, the kids always solved it on their own and the much older kids were great with the ones that were smaller---would still pass to them and include them--and make sure they weren't trampled. In fact, when my little one beat down the kid that kept hacking everyone's ankles and knees from behind his mother was happy. The older boys decided it was my kid that had to do it because he was of similar age.

So--my kids don't shy away when we play the teams mentioned in this thread and they know what to do to make the opposing team stop grabbing their shirt and tugging on their arms. If they know you won't take it, they leave you alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the original poster and no, i'm not racist. My mother is from Belize so please let that silly idea go. He yells at his kid in spanish so the refs doesn't hear him cursing. As for the college comment, it was more about his soccer IQ (slince he claims to have played) as opposed to his appearance.

I did just receive an email from the TD and he will be coming to a few of the games to observe. His son is actually a really nice kid and feel bad seeing him get verbally abused during the game, I assume the ride home is even worse. I just wanted to vent here, I'm going to invest in some BOSE headphones for the games!

Look, the only way his yelling in Spanish is at all relevant to your case is if he is cursing in Spanish and not in English because he feels he can get away with it. Other than that if he is yelling and being derogatory it doesn't matter what language and it is immaterial. Your making a point that he also yells in Spanish is a very passive aggressive racist rant. But, for all you know he could be yelling I love in Spanish.

So either you speak Spanish and you know what he is yelling in Spanish or you don't speak Spanish and he is yelling God knows what in a another language threatens you because you don't know what he is saying?

Not op, but can't you read, or are you so uneducated yourself that you think people can't recognize swearing in Spanish?

No, it doesn't matter if the parent is cursing in English, Spanish or Greek. Especially here, in this forum where the OP is just asking for advice on how to handle the situation. Again, the only part that is relevant is that he is ONLY cursing in Spanish because he thinks he can get away with it. Other than that, the language doesn't matter.

All the OP had to say is "We have a nutjob parent on the team who is yelling and cursing at the game. He hasn't been called out by the coach or refs because he curses exclusively in Spanish and they are unaware of what exactly he is saying."

Except OP's mother is from Belize, so OP does know what is being said in Spanish.

Except they don't speak Spanish in Belize...

Ahahahaha, Have you been? Are you from there? They teach english in schools, but almost all speak spanish at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son played soccer on a mostly Hispanic team. People are very prejudice against Hispanic kids in soccer. We had so many issues with parents yelling at our parents and at our kids calling them names. Kids on the field would tell them to "go back to their country".

I had to get tournament officials involved on many occasions to control the way parents, kids and officials treated our team.

It's sad but true, that people think Hispanic people are 'out of control" when they are playing soccer. Yes they yell a lot in Spanish but it was no more than the other parents.

When I think of Hispanic youth soccer players, I think of those teams teams that often don't even enter the various travel programs in the area, but could easily defeat some of our top (mostly white) teams. Sorry for being racist - but not sure if I'm being racist against white players or Hispanic players - please advise.

I agree that many Hispanic families in this area can't afford the cost of travel soccer and they will demolish a white Bethesda/Potomac/etc team and play real soccer which includes body contact and then the white Bethesda people freak out, think they are fouling when they are not and call the kids names.

You are generalizing which is called an implicit bias. I am too, I am implicitly biased against rich white people because they call foul when their kids are beat at anything and need to blame the referee and dirty play.

I just wish I knew where these Hispanic kids played any type of drop-in or street soccer. Would love to have my pasty white boys play against that type of soccer to toughen them up and see what real competition is like. Only place where we've had that type of competition to date is in some of the Fairfax Sportsplex leagues. Our team kept up in many of the games, but it is a different type of soccer and you do have to play rough. But to play like that every weekend or after school is what they would love - just don't have a clue where to begin.

You would everything with your need for field permits, matching league uniforms , other organizational crap and your ultimately turning the game into a nightmare of dad instructed plays and kick and run soccer. Don't bother these people, you'd ruin everything that is good.

My blonde boys have a spot where they are inevitably the only gringos. They have been going for years. They earned the "respect"--over time. Now, when they see them coming they are clamoring to have them on their side. My "smaller" son is tough as balls which I credit to playing with these kids where he was often the youngest by a few years. I also would "look the other way" whenever a 'throw-down" or fight was happening. Some of the other moms wouldn't bring their kids here anymore (not the Hispanic moms). But, the kids always solved it on their own and the much older kids were great with the ones that were smaller---would still pass to them and include them--and make sure they weren't trampled. In fact, when my little one beat down the kid that kept hacking everyone's ankles and knees from behind his mother was happy. The older boys decided it was my kid that had to do it because he was of similar age.

So--my kids don't shy away when we play the teams mentioned in this thread and they know what to do to make the opposing team stop grabbing their shirt and tugging on their arms. If they know you won't take it, they leave you alone.

I took a few girls down by their braids in my day that used to do the same dirty stuff. All is fair in soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does someone who went to collage look like?

Generally covered in glue and bits of paper.