Men, be honest, if your wife was fat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

It is well known that men in the modeling industry love models that don't have hips because they look like guys.

It is changing, but that look is not attractive to many men, obviously attractive to men attracted to men.... which is great for them. Own your own attractions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

It is well known that men in the modeling industry love models that don't have hips because they look like guys.

It is changing, but that look is not attractive to many men, obviously attractive to men attracted to men.... which is great for them. Own your own attractions.

I don't know what's your point, but here's a fact: most men are more attracted to woman that are fit. And most women are more attracted to men that are fit. If anybody wants to deny that, they are only fooling themselves. Most people will prioritize personality and chemistry, but that doesn't mean that, from a strict looks perspective, people are usually more attracted to fit people. As with everything, exceptions will exist.

[Anonymous]

nope you need to stay at single digits. this is disgusting, stop enabling this behavior

[Anonymous]

The evil media is not responsible for obsessing guys with thin women, the media is showing men what men want to see.

A lot of people won't have the time or genetics to be a size 2, nobody is expecting that. But if you think being a size 14 is healthy for most women, and that is is more healthy than being in the 6-8 range, let me assure you that you are wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm 5'8'', wear size 8 at 160 pounds, and I disgust myself.

If I was a size 14, I would think any attraction to me likely comes from a very niche audience.

Sounds like you have low self esteem. If you have digits for yourself, how is that going to attract others regardless of size? Confidence goes a LONG way. I'd rather date or marry a confident with extra weight that a small sized women who loathes herself. In regards to size I think you'd be surprised.

Sometimes low self esteem is just common sense. I don't delude myself that I'm in good shape, at least. Masking it with "confidence" is being deliberately blind. I know how I look when I'm in a better shape, and how much I SHOULD weigh. Confidence should not be used to mask fat.

There is no such thing as attraction regardless of size. Smaller size gets more attraction. Stop making things up to pretend it isn't so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:size 14 is considered average in the US.

Not average in higher end DC neighborhoods...

correct, white trash averages are not DC averages

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

It is well known that men in the modeling industry love models that don't have hips because they look like guys.

It is changing, but that look is not attractive to many men, obviously attractive to men attracted to men.... which is great for them. Own your own attractions.

I don't know what's your point, but here's a fact: most men are more attracted to woman that are fit. And most women are more attracted to men that are fit. If anybody wants to deny that, they are only fooling themselves. Most people will prioritize personality and chemistry, but that doesn't mean that, from a strict looks perspective, people are usually more attracted to fit people. As with everything, exceptions will exist.

I don't think you know most men and unless they hit on you as much as they hit on me and my friends I don't think you really know what they like. But do share if you are constantly being hit on by men.

Most men like a little cushion for the pushin. Some white men love little boy hips and don't mind hitting the bones.

But most men... white/black/hispaic/indian don't like skinny girls. Most will go for big boob and big ass all day long. Not sure about Asian men, not many are hitting on my friends or hang out where we hang out.

[Anonymous]

I would not be attracted to my wife, nor would I expect her to think I looked hot if I was fat.
Dw is very fit, looks nothing like a boy, very feminine and sexy.
Everybody is different and attracted to different body types so luckily we all come in different sizes and shapes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

The Ancient Greeks idealized figures. That's not what their average woman looked like. Their statues of male figures aren't what average Ancient Greek men looked like. But if DCUM men expect to use that as the standard, DCUM women should demand an Apollo in return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

The Ancient Greeks idealized figures. That's not what their average woman looked like. Their statues of male figures aren't what average Ancient Greek men looked like. But if DCUM men expect to use that as the standard, DCUM women should demand an Apollo in return.

Of course that's idealized, but don't you think this gives you an idea of what was considered ideal at the time? The point is that classical paintings and sculptures, with very few exceptions, idealize a trim, proportionate figure - which flies in face of the fat defense argument that "back in the day" fat was considered beautiful. I give you extreme thinness (of the podium kind) is rarely seen in classical art. Animate the Aphrodite statue I posted, dress her in today's clothes, and most men will think she's hot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm 5'8'', wear size 8 at 160 pounds, and I disgust myself.

If I was a size 14, I would think any attraction to me likely comes from a very niche audience.

Sounds like you have low self esteem. If you have digits for yourself, how is that going to attract others regardless of size? Confidence goes a LONG way. I'd rather date or marry a confident with extra weight that a small sized women who loathes herself. In regards to size I think you'd be surprised.

Sometimes low self esteem is just common sense. I don't delude myself that I'm in good shape, at least. Masking it with "confidence" is being deliberately blind. I know how I look when I'm in a better shape, and how much I SHOULD weigh. Confidence should not be used to mask fat.

There is no such thing as attraction regardless of size. Smaller size gets more attraction. Stop making things up to pretend it isn't so.

You are perpetuating a problem we have today in our culture. Confidence does not mean you should be masking anything. It does mean loving yourself and accepting who you are (but you already knew that). Self esteem absolutely does not equal common sense or eating disorders would not exist. Your post discounting others options does not make it true. Some people have low self esteem no matter how thin they are. Haven't you ever heard of anorexia?!

[Anonymous]

I'd be very disappointed. For many reasons I believe we have an obligation to each other to be healthy. My DW and I are in decent shape (both carry a few extra pounds) and we are still physically attracted to one another after 30 years. If either of us got fat the other would complain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

The Ancient Greeks idealized figures. That's not what their average woman looked like. Their statues of male figures aren't what average Ancient Greek men looked like. But if DCUM men expect to use that as the standard, DCUM women should demand an Apollo in return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

The Ancient Greeks idealized figures. That's not what their average woman looked like. Their statues of male figures aren't what average Ancient Greek men looked like. But if DCUM men expect to use that as the standard, DCUM women should demand an Apollo in return.

Of course that's idealized, but don't you think this gives you an idea of what was considered ideal at the time? The point is that classical paintings and sculptures, with very few exceptions, idealize a trim, proportionate figure - which flies in face of the fat defense argument that "back in the day" fat was considered beautiful. I give you extreme thinness (of the podium kind) is rarely seen in classical art. Animate the Aphrodite statue I posted, dress her in today's clothes, and most men will think she's hot.

This, ideal doesn't mean average.
If 500 years in the future somebody is studying ancient American culture they may be tempted to thinking "men back in the 21st century really preferred obese women, that's what was considered healthy back then". But that's absolutely not what American men prefer. TV, movies etc depict the type of women men idealize, even if its not what an average woman looks like. Doctors of this era certainly don't recommend people to be overweight. So its not considered appealing nor healthy.