I studied art history which meant for a couple years I was doing nothing but looking at artwork from throughout the ages, including sculptures and portraits of people. The ideal female form was never close to what we'd call overweight, let a lone fat. For most of human history, by the standards of the time today's version of average or even ideal weight would have been the overweight people of the time. Did fat people exist? Yes. And they were often portrayed unflattering in the artwork of the time, often as symbolism of gluttony. Judging from the portraits throughout the centuries (who were almost always well off people) the upper classes ate well but were also, by today's standards, trim. I will say, however, that today's extreme focus on thinness and turning women into boys with boobs is the novelty when measured against the ages. As a professor once said in a lecture that touched on similar themes, the ironic byproduct of the feminist age is that it has turned women into men. |
I mean, ditto for a gross huge dude... |
First of all, from what you're saying if she'd always been thin (even after 3 kids) and then something Sud dealt changed only a couple y area ago, I'm inclined to think something else is going on. Something physically or mentally, that is - depression? Second, the way you talk about your own kids is callous and weird, and can't help but make everyone here wonder if you / your attitude might be a big part of the problem with why she's so unhappy. Does that resonate ? |
| I am a size 14. My husband seems plenty attracted to me. We have invited other men into our bedroom before, and they seem plenty attracted too. So, I guess it’s possible to still be attracted to your wife despite weight gain. |
Why? OP asked a question. OP is female. |
I challenge you to show me where I spoke "callously" about my kids? I love my kids and would never speak badly about them. I love my wife too but she is fat, there's no getting around it. It is what it is. Shes still the same person I married just A LOT MORE of her and not sexually pleasing in any way. When we married I was 235 and athletic build. Im now 220 with less muscle and a bit of a beer belly (dad bod) |
| I was a size 14 when I met DH. Big butt and breasts but a tiny waist. He liked it. I’m actually smaller now 20 years later after 2 kids but I think my body was better, or at least tighter and curvier, back then. |
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I am 5'3" and 135 lbs. I am not skinny and I would actually look and feel a lot better if I dropped 10 lbs. My DH does not mention my weight but he and I both would be happier if those 10 lbs came off.
No. Fat is not attractive but neither is being anorexic. |
The suggestion (by a professor no less!) that feminism is somehow responsible for the current beauty ideal of extremely thin women without curves is a laughable one. Maybe you could tie an athletic, buff female body to feminist ideals. But the tall emaciated women walking down the runway? Sorry honey, that's not the fault of the "feminist age," that's a complicated mix of capitalism, gay men running the fashion industry, the obesity epidemic, changing demographic trends, and other factors. |
| My dh married me at size 16, and I'm 5'10", so he's still pretty happy. He doesn't like bony women. |
Huuuuuuuge difference and range between size 16 and "bony". Smh. |
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When I met my wife, she was very fit. 20 years later, she has had a host of medical issues, including transplants that required her to be on steroids for an extended period of time. Many of the medications she was on (at one point she was on 14 different medications) played havok with her metabolism and weight. Then she had a number of issues that have limited her exercise including hip problems, plantar fasciitis and wrist problems. Her weight has gone up a lot in especially in the last 4-5 years.
And she's still the princess that I married. In my mind, she is still the knock out from our wedding day. And that's not going to change. |
I'm happy you got healthy. I am currently struggling with this and my DH said he would give anything if I were fat. |
I am 5’8” and 140 and wear sizes 6 - 12. The other days the sales girl at Lulu was bringing me 8s and was incredulous that I ended up with the 12. I have big hips and tiny shoulders |
Obviously your DH likes a larger women. Some men are like that, and will happily date and marry a size 16. Good for you both! But the subject thread does not really apply to you. The topic is about weight GAINED after marriage. That's entirely different, given that the initial attraction was based on a smaller size, and most men who like smaller sizes are not attracted to Size 16 (otherwise they'd have dated/married as Size 16). |