Kim kardashian just released video of Taylor Swift's convo on her snapchat

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Anonymous wrote:How did two people that stupid and untalented become so rich and famous?

Taylor Swift should just ignore the two of them.

Kanye is actually very talented. He's been a very talented producer for years and his earlier albums are amazing. A lot of his music still is.

Kim is a fashion icon no matter what anyone who hates her says. It's true.

Oh, hi, Kris Jenner!

Kim is too fat to be a fashion icon.

She wears Trampy clothes that are too small for her body and look like lingerie.

If you were to say Blake Lively or Amal Clooney with regards to fashion icon (check out some websites devoted to what Amal wears--stunning and forward) if get it.

Lingerie like this?

Are you actually saying TS dresses as trashily as Kim? I'm no TS fan, but that's laughable.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is THE mean girl and uses feminism as a weapon when it suits her purpose. She goes everywhere in a posse and they zero in on the people she hates. I don't mind her work, I just wish she'd own being a b@tch and stop acting like a victim every time someone makes a joke or slights her in any way. I'm glad she's been exposed as the inauthentic liar she is.

I agree with this.

I agree as well. Her "feminism" is all about what's good for her, she doesn't care about anyone else. Sometimes, Taylor, people just don't like you. That doesn't automatically equal misogyny or sexism, sometimes it just means you suck.

You only get a certain number of "Oh poor me" victim cards in this life and I reckon Taylor has about run through her stack.

She's made a hugely successful career out of being a victim, she will play this to her advantage. Kimye should have let this story die.

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike Kimye, but Taylor got on stage on national television and ripped Kanye down because he tried to take credit for her success. She clearly heard THAT part of the lyric and approved, and was very agreeable on the phone with Kanye about it.

She then saw that she had PR opportunity to speak out against it, which was really deceiving, considering she knew and agreed to it. Now she is cowering behind her good girl victim facade.

Where does she agree to it? I hear her thanking Kanye for informing her about it. It's sort of rich to be defending Kanye for saying something so vile about her in public, but then going after Swift for responding to the claim in public. There's such a sexist overtone to all of this.

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It has nothing to do with Taylor being white and everything to do with those two being untalented, classless fame whores.

Anonymous wrote:I'm really surprised that everyone is taking Swift's side in this. From what she had said earlier when he said he called her, it had sounded to me like she was denying that there was any call or attempt to alert her about any of the lyrics.

So much of what Kanye had said about it -- that she would be walking down the red carpet getting questions about it and laughing it off because he had cleared it with her first -- was absolutely true, but Swift made it sound like Kanye was out of his mind and just making things up.

If that phone call was not actually an agreement to the lyrics and was just an agreement to listen to the song, then it sounds like this whole thing was a misunderstanding and SHE should have said so from the beginning. "He called me to clear the lyrics and I was open to it but told him I needed to hear the song." NOT "he never called me and I don't know what he's talking about and he's crazy," which seems closer to what she actually said.

Because of this I'm really glad they DID tape the call. Because everyone believed the innocent white girl and thought Kanye and Kim were making stuff up. Even now people here are falling over themselves to defend the poor white girl against mean Kanye, even though Swift totally lied about the conversation and totally overdid it in selling herself as the surprised, innocent white girl taken advantage of by the mean, crazy black man. It isn't right.

She totally references and acknowledges the "famous" part of the lyric in the later part of the phone call. So what she really objected to was the "bitch" part. Fine. But then she complained later that he took credit for her work, when she seemed fine with the "famous" part on the call. I can totally understand why West was confused and felt betrayed by her comments. Doesn't anyone else think she was two faced, saying one thing to him and another to the cameras?

At a minimum I think she should have acknowledged from the beginning that West called her to get her approval and there must have been some misunderstanding. Not "I don't know what he's talking about."

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike Kimye, but Taylor got on stage on national television and ripped Kanye down because he tried to take credit for her success. She clearly heard THAT part of the lyric and approved, and was very agreeable on the phone with Kanye about it.

She then saw that she had PR opportunity to speak out against it, which was really deceiving, considering she knew and agreed to it. Now she is cowering behind her good girl victim facade.

Where does she agree to it? I hear her thanking Kanye for informing her about it. It's sort of rich to be defending Kanye for saying something so vile about her in public, but then going after Swift for responding to the claim in public. There's such a sexist overtone to all of this.

What? I'm a white woman and I think there's such a racist overtone in all of this. Her people said he didn't call her for approval of the lyric, he called her to release the song on her Twitter -- that is obviously false! They obviously had an hour long phone call in which his intention was to get her approval of the lyrics in advance! It was wrong of her to pretend that the lyrics were a total surprise to her.

I really like the NYT take, posted on the last page, on the whole thing. Fair, but on the whole coming out (seemed to me) in favor of Kanye.

I also think this is two times in recent history where Swift has initially seemed to agree to something and then apparently changed her mind and backpedalled and tried to make the person she made the agreement with look bad:
(1) writing the lyrics to the Calvin Harris song under an alias so she didn't take focus away from him, but then after its release saying that she wrote the song. (Cue Calvin Harris twitter feud over Swift making him look bad.)
(2) seeming open to the Famous lyrics on the phone with Kanye and then doing an about take in front of the cameras saying he was taking credit for her work, and then doubling down and saying he never called her for her approval of the lyrics, just to release the song on twitter (when he clearly did call her for her approval of the lyrics, they talked for an hour, and she thanked him for calling her in advance and said that doing so was really cool and respectful of him and that she appreciated it!).

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“It’s like a compliment kind of,” Swift says after hearing the lyric. “Go with whatever line you think is better. It’s obviously very tongue in cheek either way,” she adds. “I really appreciate you telling me about it! That’s really nice.”

Throughout the conversation, Kanye repeatedly tells Swift that he considers her a “friend” and felt a “responsibility” to ask her permission before releasing the lyric. “Relationships are more important than punchlines, you know,” he says.

“And I’m really glad that you had the respect to call me and tell me about the song,” Swift adds. “If people ask me about it, it would be great to say, ‘well he called me and told me before it came out, jokes on you guys, we’re fine.'”

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Anonymous wrote:“It’s like a compliment kind of,” Swift says after hearing the lyric. “Go with whatever line you think is better. It’s obviously very tongue in cheek either way,” she adds. “I really appreciate you telling me about it! That’s really nice.”

Throughout the conversation, Kanye repeatedly tells Swift that he considers her a “friend” and felt a “responsibility” to ask her permission before releasing the lyric. “Relationships are more important than punchlines, you know,” he says.

“And I’m really glad that you had the respect to call me and tell me about the song,” Swift adds. “If people ask me about it, it would be great to say, ‘well he called me and told me before it came out, jokes on you guys, we’re fine.'”

She's too nice .

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“Kanye did not call for approval, but to ask Taylor to release his single ‘Famous’ on her Twitter account. She declined and cautioned him about releasing a song with such a strong misogynistic message,” a spokesperson for Swift said following the song’s release back in February.

That was totally untrue. He obviously did call her for approval. Why did she lie?

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I can't believe people are seeing racial overtones to this!!! Are we forgetting that Kanye put a nude silicone doll of Taylor in his video WITHOUT HER CONSENT? How is that ok? Look at all the people (rightfully) freaking out about the model posting a pic of an anonymous nude woman at the gym. How is that so different from what Kanye did to Taylor in his video? That was LOW. He is not the victim here.

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Anonymous wrote:“Kanye did not call for approval, but to ask Taylor to release his single ‘Famous’ on her Twitter account. She declined and cautioned him about releasing a song with such a strong misogynistic message,” a spokesperson for Swift said following the song’s release back in February.

That was totally untrue. He obviously did call her for approval. Why did she lie?

You think that she fully agreed to a song and a video that she had never even heard or seen? No. She did not. Nice try though.

Kanye and Kim are twisted.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are seeing racial overtones to this!!! Are we forgetting that Kanye put a nude silicone doll of Taylor in his video WITHOUT HER CONSENT? How is that ok? Look at all the people (rightfully) freaking out about the model posting a pic of an anonymous nude woman at the gym. How is that so different from what Kanye did to Taylor in his video? That was LOW. He is not the victim here.

Is that a silicone doll? How do you know that?

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Anonymous wrote:“It’s like a compliment kind of,” Swift says after hearing the lyric. “Go with whatever line you think is better. It’s obviously very tongue in cheek either way,” she adds. “I really appreciate you telling me about it! That’s really nice.”

Throughout the conversation, Kanye repeatedly tells Swift that he considers her a “friend” and felt a “responsibility” to ask her permission before releasing the lyric. “Relationships are more important than punchlines, you know,” he says.

“And I’m really glad that you had the respect to call me and tell me about the song,” Swift adds. “If people ask me about it, it would be great to say, ‘well he called me and told me before it came out, jokes on you guys, we’re fine.'”

She's too nice .

I agree. It is really uncomfortable to read that. Her side of the convo is a textbook definition of trying too hard to be likable. I think she really did not want to be on bad terms with them and was willing at the time to bend over backwards to prevent that from happening and then perhaps thought better about it when she heard the actual song and felt that he was making fun of her (which he was).

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SMH and she went on live television at the Grammys and made that dramatic speech about people taking credit for her success. She is faker than a $3 bill.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe people are seeing racial overtones to this!!! Are we forgetting that Kanye put a nude silicone doll of Taylor in his video WITHOUT HER CONSENT? How is that ok? Look at all the people (rightfully) freaking out about the model posting a pic of an anonymous nude woman at the gym. How is that so different from what Kanye did to Taylor in his video? That was LOW. He is not the victim here.

Is that a silicone doll? How do you know that?

They're all dolls. You can't honestly think she (or the rest of the people portrayed) consented to that.

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Anonymous wrote:SMH and she went on live television at the Grammys and made that dramatic speech about people taking credit for her success. She is faker than a $3 bill.

Some people think her speech was about Calvin Harris taking credit for the song she wrote.