Kim kardashian just released video of Taylor Swift's convo on her snapchat

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really surprised that everyone is taking Swift's side in this. From what she had said earlier when he said he called her, it had sounded to me like she was denying that there was any call or attempt to alert her about any of the lyrics.

So much of what Kanye had said about it -- that she would be walking down the red carpet getting questions about it and laughing it off because he had cleared it with her first -- was absolutely true, but Swift made it sound like Kanye was out of his mind and just making things up.

If that phone call was not actually an agreement to the lyrics and was just an agreement to listen to the song, then it sounds like this whole thing was a misunderstanding and SHE should have said so from the beginning. "He called me to clear the lyrics and I was open to it but told him I needed to hear the song." NOT "he never called me and I don't know what he's talking about and he's crazy," which seems closer to what she actually said.

Because of this I'm really glad they DID tape the call. Because everyone believed the innocent white girl and thought Kanye and Kim were making stuff up. Even now people here are falling over themselves to defend the poor white girl against mean Kanye, even though Swift totally lied about the conversation and totally overdid it in selling herself as the surprised, innocent white girl taken advantage of by the mean, crazy black man. It isn't right.

She totally references and acknowledges the "famous" part of the lyric in the later part of the phone call. So what she really objected to was the "bitch" part. Fine. But then she complained later that he took credit for her work, when she seemed fine with the "famous" part on the call. I can totally understand why West was confused and felt betrayed by her comments. Doesn't anyone else think she was two faced, saying one thing to him and another to the cameras?

At a minimum I think she should have acknowledged from the beginning that West called her to get her approval and there must have been some misunderstanding. Not "I don't know what he's talking about."

It's a crap song and a vile and disgusting video. Taylor benefited in no way from the release of this garbage. It really sounds like some sort of nasty revenge payback on Kanye's part.

Why on earth would Taylor agree to this? Based on that phone call it sounded as though she was being nice to someone who sounded as though he was trying to respectful to her and warn her about some lyrics...

Then this vulgar trash. WTH??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm really surprised that everyone is taking Swift's side in this. From what she had said earlier when he said he called her, it had sounded to me like she was denying that there was any call or attempt to alert her about any of the lyrics.

So much of what Kanye had said about it -- that she would be walking down the red carpet getting questions about it and laughing it off because he had cleared it with her first -- was absolutely true, but Swift made it sound like Kanye was out of his mind and just making things up.

If that phone call was not actually an agreement to the lyrics and was just an agreement to listen to the song, then it sounds like this whole thing was a misunderstanding and SHE should have said so from the beginning. "He called me to clear the lyrics and I was open to it but told him I needed to hear the song." NOT "he never called me and I don't know what he's talking about and he's crazy," which seems closer to what she actually said.

Because of this I'm really glad they DID tape the call. Because everyone believed the innocent white girl and thought Kanye and Kim were making stuff up. Even now people here are falling over themselves to defend the poor white girl against mean Kanye, even though Swift totally lied about the conversation and totally overdid it in selling herself as the surprised, innocent white girl taken advantage of by the mean, crazy black man. It isn't right.

She totally references and acknowledges the "famous" part of the lyric in the later part of the phone call. So what she really objected to was the "bitch" part. Fine. But then she complained later that he took credit for her work, when she seemed fine with the "famous" part on the call. I can totally understand why West was confused and felt betrayed by her comments. Doesn't anyone else think she was two faced, saying one thing to him and another to the cameras?

At a minimum I think she should have acknowledged from the beginning that West called her to get her approval and there must have been some misunderstanding. Not "I don't know what he's talking about."

I agree with this. All of these people are pretend, none of them live a life that any of us can relate to, and none of this is surprising. The defense of Taylor Swift is comical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really surprised that everyone is taking Swift's side in this. From what she had said earlier when he said he called her, it had sounded to me like she was denying that there was any call or attempt to alert her about any of the lyrics.

So much of what Kanye had said about it -- that she would be walking down the red carpet getting questions about it and laughing it off because he had cleared it with her first -- was absolutely true, but Swift made it sound like Kanye was out of his mind and just making things up.

If that phone call was not actually an agreement to the lyrics and was just an agreement to listen to the song, then it sounds like this whole thing was a misunderstanding and SHE should have said so from the beginning. "He called me to clear the lyrics and I was open to it but told him I needed to hear the song." NOT "he never called me and I don't know what he's talking about and he's crazy," which seems closer to what she actually said.

Because of this I'm really glad they DID tape the call. Because everyone believed the innocent white girl and thought Kanye and Kim were making stuff up. Even now people here are falling over themselves to defend the poor white girl against mean Kanye, even though Swift totally lied about the conversation and totally overdid it in selling herself as the surprised, innocent white girl taken advantage of by the mean, crazy black man. It isn't right.

She totally references and acknowledges the "famous" part of the lyric in the later part of the phone call. So what she really objected to was the "bitch" part. Fine. But then she complained later that he took credit for her work, when she seemed fine with the "famous" part on the call. I can totally understand why West was confused and felt betrayed by her comments. Doesn't anyone else think she was two faced, saying one thing to him and another to the cameras?

At a minimum I think she should have acknowledged from the beginning that West called her to get her approval and there must have been some misunderstanding. Not "I don't know what he's talking about."

It's a crap song and a vile and disgusting video. Taylor benefited in no way from the release of this garbage. It really sounds like some sort of nasty revenge payback on Kanye's part.

Why on earth would Taylor agree to this? Based on that phone call it sounded as though she was being nice to someone who sounded as though he was trying to respectful to her and warn her about some lyrics...

Then this vulgar trash. WTH??

+ a million. Let's not waste more time on Kanye self-promotional BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is THE mean girl and uses feminism as a weapon when it suits her purpose. She goes everywhere in a posse and they zero in on the people she hates. I don't mind her work, I just wish she'd own being a b@tch and stop acting like a victim every time someone makes a joke or slights her in any way. I'm glad she's been exposed as the inauthentic liar she is.

She tells a story: "I called up a bunch of different girls to go to the Mall. Everyone said they were busy, so my Mom took me. I saw the group of them there and my heart sunk." Her mom took her to a different (better, fancier) mall so that they could ignore the hurt.

I sometimes think this story tells more about how she now can use her power to make the cool girls show up when she calls. There's really something to her command of the posse, and it's ain't pretty.

I will definitely be buying the (Millennial version) Kitty Kelley bio whenever it comes out. There's a much more interesting story of Miss Swift's life out there. Eventually, these posse members are going to start talking. I can't imagine the kinda crazy we're in for when it's revealed. Oh, to have three minutes of time with Calvin Harris right about now!

You were responding to my comment and I want to say, YES, to everything you said! And, I will definitely read that book!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is THE mean girl and uses feminism as a weapon when it suits her purpose. She goes everywhere in a posse and they zero in on the people she hates. I don't mind her work, I just wish she'd own being a b@tch and stop acting like a victim every time someone makes a joke or slights her in any way. I'm glad she's been exposed as the inauthentic liar she is.

I agree with this.

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I can't believe this story is worthy of the New York Times and that I read it all the way through. But it's a really interesting analysis:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/arts/music/taylor-swift-kim-kardashian.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

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I dislike Kimye, but Taylor got on stage on national television and ripped Kanye down because he tried to take credit for her success. She clearly heard THAT part of the lyric and approved, and was very agreeable on the phone with Kanye about it.

She then saw that she had PR opportunity to speak out against it, which was really deceiving, considering she knew and agreed to it. Now she is cowering behind her good girl victim facade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did two people that stupid and untalented become so rich and famous?

Taylor Swift should just ignore the two of them.

Kanye is actually very talented. He's been a very talented producer for years and his earlier albums are amazing. A lot of his music still is.

Kim is a fashion icon no matter what anyone who hates her says. It's true.

Oh, hi, Kris Jenner!

Kim is too fat to be a fashion icon.

She wears Trampy clothes that are too small for her body and look like lingerie.

If you were to say Blake Lively or Amal Clooney with regards to fashion icon (check out some websites devoted to what Amal wears--stunning and forward) if get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is THE mean girl and uses feminism as a weapon when it suits her purpose. She goes everywhere in a posse and they zero in on the people she hates. I don't mind her work, I just wish she'd own being a b@tch and stop acting like a victim every time someone makes a joke or slights her in any way. I'm glad she's been exposed as the inauthentic liar she is.

I agree with this.

I agree as well. Her "feminism" is all about what's good for her, she doesn't care about anyone else. Sometimes, Taylor, people just don't like you. That doesn't automatically equal misogyny or sexism, sometimes it just means you suck.

You only get a certain number of "Oh poor me" victim cards in this life and I reckon Taylor has about run through her stack.

[Anonymous]

Kim is no fashion icon. She's famous for being UNfashionable. Look at all the jokes about Kanye dressing her and that being for the worse. She's famous for being a fame whore and that's it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dislike Kimye, but Taylor got on stage on national television and ripped Kanye down because he tried to take credit for her success. She clearly heard THAT part of the lyric and approved, and was very agreeable on the phone with Kanye about it.

She then saw that she had PR opportunity to speak out against it, which was really deceiving, considering she knew and agreed to it. Now she is cowering behind her good girl victim facade.

Yeah, I'm guessing that Taylor wasn't going to argue with the "I made you famous lyric" because it was sooo stupid and untrue. If it made anyone look bad it would make Kanye look bad.

It isn't Taylor's job to keep Kanye from making himself look bad. She owes him nothing. Especially now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did two people that stupid and untalented become so rich and famous?

Taylor Swift should just ignore the two of them.

Kanye is actually very talented. He's been a very talented producer for years and his earlier albums are amazing. A lot of his music still is.

Kim is a fashion icon no matter what anyone who hates her says. It's true.

Oh, hi, Kris Jenner!

Kim is too fat to be a fashion icon.

She wears Trampy clothes that are too small for her body and look like lingerie.

If you were to say Blake Lively or Amal Clooney with regards to fashion icon (check out some websites devoted to what Amal wears--stunning and forward) if get it.

Lingerie like this?

[Anonymous]

Weren't those photos taken at the Victoria Secret's fashion show? Considering what all the other models were wearing, Taylor was buttoned up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kim is no fashion icon. She's famous for being UNfashionable. Look at all the jokes about Kanye dressing her and that being for the worse. She's famous for being a fame whore and that's it.

I still don't know why the Kardashians are famous. And I truly mean that.

[Anonymous]

All this hoopla makes me sad for the state of American culture today.