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Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns

I think Obama has been a poor president and has made a lot of policy mistakes (and no.....it's not because he's black, thank you very much), but I agree....I'd vote for him hands down before either of the current two candidates.


There are a whole lot of other candidates that I would support before the two godawful choices we have been given. And yes, I supported Obama both times and have voted for Democrats consistently over the years. There is no way in hell I'd vote for Clinton and I cannot bring myself to vote for Trump either.

Frankly, if someone held a gun to my head and said I absolutely had to vote for one of the two, I'd probably vote for Trump despite my antipathy towards him because the alternative is just too awful to contemplate.


Teenage Drama Queen.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns


Obama - whatever his other failings - is basically an honest guy especially for a politician. With Hillary she is as dishonest as they come.


Thats just the perception and feeling. Obama is a blank slate without Bill baggage. He had only a few years in politics before he became president. He didn't have enough time to make BIG promises and not meet it(one can argue he DID PROMISE big and didn't do a tenth of what he promised. He is a better campaigner and a much better communicator OVER ANYONE BUT Bill Clinton. Hillary is a terrible campaigner and a terrible campaigner BUT her strengths are she is better at policy and getting things done once she is elected. And there is no one more qualified in so many decades.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns


Obama - whatever his other failings - is basically an honest guy especially for a politician. With Hillary she is as dishonest as they come.


Thats just the perception and feeling. Obama is a blank slate without Bill baggage. He had only a few years in politics before he became president. He didn't have enough time to make BIG promises and not meet it(one can argue he DID PROMISE big and didn't do a tenth of what he promised. He is a better campaigner and a much better communicator OVER ANYONE BUT Bill Clinton. Hillary is a terrible campaigner and a terrible campaigner BUT her strengths are she is better at policy and getting things done once she is elected. And there is no one more qualified in so many decades.


All of her experience and qualifications sure did not result in any significant achievements as SoS.

The one assignment she was given as First Lady to spearhead health care reform in the 90s' she royally fucked up ........ and I actually know about this because I then worked in a senior position in the health care system and we knew that with her approach and relying on Magaziner her proposals would never pass. There actually was consensus at the time to pass some form of universal healthcare given the participants in the House and Senate but she did not have the first idea about how to get things done. It was a totally blown opportunity. Her failure played a big role in the losses the Democrats faced in the 1994 mid-term and the rise of Gingrich.

Yes, she knows policy but she has appalling judgement whether it was her vote for war against Iraq or her spearheading the move to remove Khaddafi which created another fuck up in Libya not to mention her role with regard to Syria.

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Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns

I think Obama has been a poor president and has made a lot of policy mistakes (and no.....it's not because he's black, thank you very much), but I agree....I'd vote for him hands down before either of the current two candidates.


Can you elaborate on the policy mistakes Obama has made? Obamacare has over 50% support. His Antiwar Foreign Policy is still popular and is the reason he got elected. His economic policy has unemployment at 5% , made US the only growing economy among developed nations and stock market is at its peak(as is my 401K and my stock portfolio). Economic inequity is due to GOP blocking all his policies towards that end, including infrastructure bill, Retraining bill etc.


NP- I'm an Obama supporter but think at times he wasn't the most effective leader. He should have taken a bigger role in crafting "Obamacare" rather than passing the buck to congress to figure it out. He also spent a lot of political capital getting that passed, so other potential priorities suffered and then when many Dems got voted out of congress he wasn't really able to get anything done. Which of course was not entirely his fault, this Congress does nothing. I think he might have been more effective if he'd had just a bit more experience under his belt, but 2008 was a golden opportunity and I don't blame him for running then. Wish he could run for a third term in some ways, he just seems more comfortable in the role now. And I vastly prefer him to Clinton and especially Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.

As a conservative, I agree with you completely - just from the opposite side. I cannot believe that the idiots voting in the primary have foisted such a horrible candidate on us (Trump) that we might end up with a corrupt liar with a total lack of integrity (as you noted.) Had we nominated someone decent - I liked Kasich - HRC wouldn't have had a chance. As it stands now, we're going to end up with an ignorant blowhard or a conniving liar - and the country will be in serious trouble.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns

I think Obama has been a poor president and has made a lot of policy mistakes (and no.....it's not because he's black, thank you very much), but I agree....I'd vote for him hands down before either of the current two candidates.


Can you elaborate on the policy mistakes Obama has made? Obamacare has over 50% support. His Antiwar Foreign Policy is still popular and is the reason he got elected. His economic policy has unemployment at 5% , made US the only growing economy among developed nations and stock market is at its peak(as is my 401K and my stock portfolio). Economic inequity is due to GOP blocking all his policies towards that end, including infrastructure bill, Retraining bill etc.

Well, I know you and I are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, so I don't expect you'll agree with any of my opinions, but I provide them just to make sure people (not necessarily you) know there are reasons not to like a president that have nothing to do with race. (I've sometimes spent five minutes why I think a policy is wrong, only to be told...."racist." It's a weak comeback.)

That said, here are some examples of what I think Obama did wrong: The stimulus package was a waste of money (an extra million jobs were lost after it)....Obamacare has harmed a lot of people (the middle class who makes too much for subsidies but now have policies with ridiculous deductibles that are practically useless)...the Libya intervention was a big mistake (Obama himself admits to this), we are at the lowest labor participation rate in decades (the 5% you mention does not factor in discouraged workers who have left the market), the Iran Deal....pulling out of Iraq too soon....allowing the abuses in the VA to continue way too long....the START treaty with Russia....the Bergdahl terrorist swap....declining the Keystone pipeline....adding $9 trillion to the debt....failure to secure the border and being weak with illegal immigrants who commit multiple crimes (that Steinle woman is an example)...unconstitutional executive action...just a sampling of the policies/actions I disagree with. If I had more time, I could give you more.

Again, I know you'll think differently, and I don't want to engage in a debate with you - especially given Obama is on his sway out. But this should tell you just how dismayed I am with our current candidates that I'd consider Obama, with all his wrong decisions (as I see them), to be preferable.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns

I think Obama has been a poor president and has made a lot of policy mistakes (and no.....it's not because he's black, thank you very much), but I agree....I'd vote for him hands down before either of the current two candidates.


Can you elaborate on the policy mistakes Obama has made? Obamacare has over 50% support. His Antiwar Foreign Policy is still popular and is the reason he got elected. His economic policy has unemployment at 5% , made US the only growing economy among developed nations and stock market is at its peak(as is my 401K and my stock portfolio). Economic inequity is due to GOP blocking all his policies towards that end, including infrastructure bill, Retraining bill etc.

Well, I know you and I are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, so I don't expect you'll agree with any of my opinions, but I provide them just to make sure people (not necessarily you) know there are reasons not to like a president that have nothing to do with race. (I've sometimes spent five minutes why I think a policy is wrong, only to be told...."racist." It's a weak comeback.)

That said, here are some examples of what I think Obama did wrong: The stimulus package was a waste of money (an extra million jobs were lost after it)


Wrong. The stimulus is what saved from 1930s era depression. And the Stimulus is what Bush did too. When the entire economy and entire industry and companies are going down, the only thing that can stop the downward spiral is government. And All the companies paid back money given to them. You want to know what will happen without Stimulus, look at Europe still mired in Recession that US caused.


....Obamacare has harmed a lot of people

Obama care benefited Obama voters and is very popular with the base. He was a democrat president, after all.

the Libya intervention was a big mistake (Obama himself admits to this)

Coming from a party whose president unleashed the Middle east turmoil with Iraq war. Libya was a minor mistake compared to IRAQ, which resulted in thousands of american lives lost and trillions of money wasted. No president goes through a perfect presidency. But no blunders is a successful presidency.

we are at the lowest labor participation rate in decades

It is structural in nature with many Baby boomers retiring in big numbers starting 2012 is a big factor. This is not the doing of ONE president and the economic recovery was not helped by GOP which blocks everything including infrastructure spending.


the Iran Deal....

as opposed to a sanction that was not working with China and Russia that was quietly helping Iran. Also, with China, India and others quietly buying OIL in the black market the embargo was not forcing them to stop the nuclear enrichment. America thinks it has over riding power AND IT DOESN'T. Iran is not a small country and US cant really take on the might of China or Russia or India.

pulling out of Iraq too soon...

This is popular across all of America. You cant win a war in the middle east. You will only lose american lives. Obama only did what the majority of the citizens wanted him to do.


allowing the abuses in the VA to continue way too long

These are all subjective issues. You cant make a convincing case for all. Its GOP talking point, thats all. Now you have a guy who calls veterans and POWs as losers.

....the START treaty with Russia....

Again subjective. Russia is too big and have enough resources to really be contained. Putin will do what he wants, and the US can put in sanctions. He still does what he wants. Bush was friendlier to Putin, btw.

the Bergdahl terrorist swap

The same GOP would have howled if he had been allowed to die calling obama a Traitor for leaving an American die.

declining the Keystone pipeline

Liberals love this decision, you know he is a liberal president,right.

adding $9 trillion to the debt

The trajectory was set by Bush in an unfunded war that added trillions and continued to add trillions after he left, The economic recession again started during Bush years warranted it. However, it has plateaued since.


failure to secure the border and being weak with illegal immigrants who commit multiple crimes

Obama has deported more than any presidents previously, making Trump call him heartless(see link). There has been NET Emigration if you actually look for data. No president ever will deport 12 million illegal immigrants(Your mediocre god Reagan passed amnesty) becasue it cant be done. It creates logistics, labor, legal issues that arm chair generals like you dont have the need or INTELLECT to think about.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/06/25/trumps-new-180-immigration-mass-deportations/

unconstitutional executive action

Obama has made fewer exec actions than Bush or other previous prsidents.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/feb/06/chain-email/chain-email-claims-barack-obama-has-signed-1000-ex/


Again, I know you'll think differently, and I don't want to engage in a debate with you - especially given Obama is on his sway out. But this should tell you just how dismayed I am with our current candidates that I'd consider Obama, with all his wrong decisions (as I see them), to be preferable.


I have answered point by point, but however you are not gonna change your mind coz you want a liberal president to act like your PERFECT GOP president that never existed.
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New CBS poll shows dead even - 40% Clinton, 40% Trump. Her deceit regarding her email server, as revealed by Comey, is clearly the reason.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns

I think Obama has been a poor president and has made a lot of policy mistakes (and no.....it's not because he's black, thank you very much), but I agree....I'd vote for him hands down before either of the current two candidates.


Can you elaborate on the policy mistakes Obama has made? Obamacare has over 50% support. His Antiwar Foreign Policy is still popular and is the reason he got elected. His economic policy has unemployment at 5% , made US the only growing economy among developed nations and stock market is at its peak(as is my 401K and my stock portfolio). Economic inequity is due to GOP blocking all his policies towards that end, including infrastructure bill, Retraining bill etc.

Well, I know you and I are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, so I don't expect you'll agree with any of my opinions, but I provide them just to make sure people (not necessarily you) know there are reasons not to like a president that have nothing to do with race. (I've sometimes spent five minutes why I think a policy is wrong, only to be told...."racist." It's a weak comeback.)

That said, here are some examples of what I think Obama did wrong: The stimulus package was a waste of money (an extra million jobs were lost after it)


Wrong. The stimulus is what saved from 1930s era depression. And the Stimulus is what Bush did too. When the entire economy and entire industry and companies are going down, the only thing that can stop the downward spiral is government. And All the companies paid back money given to them. You want to know what will happen without Stimulus, look at Europe still mired in Recession that US caused.


....Obamacare has harmed a lot of people

Obama care benefited Obama voters and is very popular with the base. He was a democrat president, after all.

the Libya intervention was a big mistake (Obama himself admits to this)

Coming from a party whose president unleashed the Middle east turmoil with Iraq war. Libya was a minor mistake compared to IRAQ, which resulted in thousands of american lives lost and trillions of money wasted. No president goes through a perfect presidency. But no blunders is a successful presidency.

we are at the lowest labor participation rate in decades

It is structural in nature with many Baby boomers retiring in big numbers starting 2012 is a big factor. This is not the doing of ONE president and the economic recovery was not helped by GOP which blocks everything including infrastructure spending.


the Iran Deal....

as opposed to a sanction that was not working with China and Russia that was quietly helping Iran. Also, with China, India and others quietly buying OIL in the black market the embargo was not forcing them to stop the nuclear enrichment. America thinks it has over riding power AND IT DOESN'T. Iran is not a small country and US cant really take on the might of China or Russia or India.

pulling out of Iraq too soon...

This is popular across all of America. You cant win a war in the middle east. You will only lose american lives. Obama only did what the majority of the citizens wanted him to do.


allowing the abuses in the VA to continue way too long

These are all subjective issues. You cant make a convincing case for all. Its GOP talking point, thats all. Now you have a guy who calls veterans and POWs as losers.

....the START treaty with Russia....

Again subjective. Russia is too big and have enough resources to really be contained. Putin will do what he wants, and the US can put in sanctions. He still does what he wants. Bush was friendlier to Putin, btw.

the Bergdahl terrorist swap

The same GOP would have howled if he had been allowed to die calling obama a Traitor for leaving an American die.

declining the Keystone pipeline

Liberals love this decision, you know he is a liberal president,right.

adding $9 trillion to the debt

The trajectory was set by Bush in an unfunded war that added trillions and continued to add trillions after he left, The economic recession again started during Bush years warranted it. However, it has plateaued since.


failure to secure the border and being weak with illegal immigrants who commit multiple crimes

Obama has deported more than any presidents previously, making Trump call him heartless(see link). There has been NET Emigration if you actually look for data. No president ever will deport 12 million illegal immigrants(Your mediocre god Reagan passed amnesty) becasue it cant be done. It creates logistics, labor, legal issues that arm chair generals like you dont have the need or INTELLECT to think about.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/06/25/trumps-new-180-immigration-mass-deportations/

unconstitutional executive action

Obama has made fewer exec actions than Bush or other previous prsidents.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/feb/06/chain-email/chain-email-claims-barack-obama-has-signed-1000-ex/


Again, I know you'll think differently, and I don't want to engage in a debate with you - especially given Obama is on his sway out. But this should tell you just how dismayed I am with our current candidates that I'd consider Obama, with all his wrong decisions (as I see them), to be preferable.


I have answered point by point, but however you are not gonna change your mind coz you want a liberal president to act like your PERFECT GOP president that never existed.


I never said the GOP candidate was perfect, far from it, so no need for the snarky ending. Your nasty crap (i.e., my demigod Reagan, etc.) shows me you are just another rude liberal who can't have a respectful conversation with anyone who disagrees with you. Liberals....tolerant with everyone, as long as you agree with them.

I've wasted enough time.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hillary running as Obama's third term is nuts.

She ain't no Obama ............. but then she can't run on her own merits because she is such a crappy candidate.


I wish Obama could run for his third term. And I'm no Obama fan. But he's WAY better than either of these clowns

I think Obama has been a poor president and has made a lot of policy mistakes (and no.....it's not because he's black, thank you very much), but I agree....I'd vote for him hands down before either of the current two candidates.


Can you elaborate on the policy mistakes Obama has made? Obamacare has over 50% support. His Antiwar Foreign Policy is still popular and is the reason he got elected. His economic policy has unemployment at 5% , made US the only growing economy among developed nations and stock market is at its peak(as is my 401K and my stock portfolio). Economic inequity is due to GOP blocking all his policies towards that end, including infrastructure bill, Retraining bill etc.

Well, I know you and I are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, so I don't expect you'll agree with any of my opinions, but I provide them just to make sure people (not necessarily you) know there are reasons not to like a president that have nothing to do with race. (I've sometimes spent five minutes why I think a policy is wrong, only to be told...."racist." It's a weak comeback.)

That said, here are some examples of what I think Obama did wrong: The stimulus package was a waste of money (an extra million jobs were lost after it)


Wrong. The stimulus is what saved from 1930s era depression. And the Stimulus is what Bush did too. When the entire economy and entire industry and companies are going down, the only thing that can stop the downward spiral is government. And All the companies paid back money given to them. You want to know what will happen without Stimulus, look at Europe still mired in Recession that US caused.


....Obamacare has harmed a lot of people

Obama care benefited Obama voters and is very popular with the base. He was a democrat president, after all.

the Libya intervention was a big mistake (Obama himself admits to this)

Coming from a party whose president unleashed the Middle east turmoil with Iraq war. Libya was a minor mistake compared to IRAQ, which resulted in thousands of american lives lost and trillions of money wasted. No president goes through a perfect presidency. But no blunders is a successful presidency.

we are at the lowest labor participation rate in decades

It is structural in nature with many Baby boomers retiring in big numbers starting 2012 is a big factor. This is not the doing of ONE president and the economic recovery was not helped by GOP which blocks everything including infrastructure spending.


the Iran Deal....

as opposed to a sanction that was not working with China and Russia that was quietly helping Iran. Also, with China, India and others quietly buying OIL in the black market the embargo was not forcing them to stop the nuclear enrichment. America thinks it has over riding power AND IT DOESN'T. Iran is not a small country and US cant really take on the might of China or Russia or India.

pulling out of Iraq too soon...

This is popular across all of America. You cant win a war in the middle east. You will only lose american lives. Obama only did what the majority of the citizens wanted him to do.


allowing the abuses in the VA to continue way too long

These are all subjective issues. You cant make a convincing case for all. Its GOP talking point, thats all. Now you have a guy who calls veterans and POWs as losers.

....the START treaty with Russia....

Again subjective. Russia is too big and have enough resources to really be contained. Putin will do what he wants, and the US can put in sanctions. He still does what he wants. Bush was friendlier to Putin, btw.

the Bergdahl terrorist swap

The same GOP would have howled if he had been allowed to die calling obama a Traitor for leaving an American die.

declining the Keystone pipeline

Liberals love this decision, you know he is a liberal president,right.

adding $9 trillion to the debt

The trajectory was set by Bush in an unfunded war that added trillions and continued to add trillions after he left, The economic recession again started during Bush years warranted it. However, it has plateaued since.


failure to secure the border and being weak with illegal immigrants who commit multiple crimes

Obama has deported more than any presidents previously, making Trump call him heartless(see link). There has been NET Emigration if you actually look for data. No president ever will deport 12 million illegal immigrants(Your mediocre god Reagan passed amnesty) becasue it cant be done. It creates logistics, labor, legal issues that arm chair generals like you dont have the need or INTELLECT to think about.

http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/06/25/trumps-new-180-immigration-mass-deportations/

unconstitutional executive action

Obama has made fewer exec actions than Bush or other previous prsidents.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/feb/06/chain-email/chain-email-claims-barack-obama-has-signed-1000-ex/


Again, I know you'll think differently, and I don't want to engage in a debate with you - especially given Obama is on his sway out. But this should tell you just how dismayed I am with our current candidates that I'd consider Obama, with all his wrong decisions (as I see them), to be preferable.


I have answered point by point, but however you are not gonna change your mind coz you want a liberal president to act like your PERFECT GOP president that never existed.


I never said the GOP candidate was perfect, far from it, so no need for the snarky ending. Your nasty crap (i.e., my demigod Reagan, etc.) shows me you are just another rude liberal who can't have a respectful conversation with anyone who disagrees with you. Liberals....tolerant with everyone, as long as you agree with them.

I've wasted enough time.


If you cant rebut with logic, facts and numbers, then escape on technicalities showing your THIN skin. I am no where nearly as rude as many of your GOP kin. GOP guys always TALK AS IF a GOP president is faultless and perfect. But there is no such President, not even Lincoln.
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Anonymous wrote:New CBS poll shows dead even - 40% Clinton, 40% Trump. Her deceit regarding her email server, as revealed by Comey, is clearly the reason.


She def had a bad week. But Trump struggles to break out of the low 40s, even when he's having a good week. We'll see if he gets a convention bounce.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people who are ashamed to admit it in public are going to pull the lever for Trump when they get behind the curtain. If Bernie supporters stay home or go to green party as a protest vote she won't win


Then they are going to be sorely disappointed when Trump screws them over daily for the next 4 years. Everything those Americans work for will be gone: Jobs, social security, education, etc.

American will be no more.


He has done one thing only VERY WELL in his life, Screw some one for his benefit AT ANY COST.
1)Fake university(Harvard according to him): Screw anyone with money and teach crap
2) Screw American small business owners: Many small business owners who have done business with him have not been paid their contractual obligation but instead peanuts and told if they dont like they can sue him, knowing it will take years and so much money and they wont do that.
3) Screw American workers: Brought in Polish workers and paid them peanuts/nothing at the cost of American workers
4) Screw American manufacturing: Makes all his ties, suit, shirts etc in China and created hundreds of jobs in China
5)Screw Minorities:He wont rent out to minorities and discriminated against them.
6)Screw Banks that loaned him: Throughout his bankruptcies, he paid himself millions while running his companies into the ground and not paying back his loan
7) Screw people that worked for him: If someone ever worked for Drumpf and decided to cross him for whatever reason, he has taken them to court and made them sign Non disclosure agreement and settle out of court. If they dont agree they are free to spend all the money and time in defending a spurious case, for which he has a litany of lawyers
8)Screw Republican Primary voters: He has promised to bring back jobs WHEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to do that in 4 years. Because America benefits more from trade(mostly degree holders and all consumers) than what it loses(mostly blue collar labor). But he has no plan to help the losers.
9)Screw the Anti-immigrants and White Supremacists: He has no plan to build a wall because it is not possible to build a wall across thousands of miles, congress wont approve it, mexico wont pay for it. Most of all, HE HAS NO INTENTION because he has grown a heart and now calls Obama heartless for deporting criminal illegal immigrants. http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/06/25/trumps-new-180-immigration-mass-deportations/
10)Screw Americans who vote for him: He is screwing the poor and STUPID americans who vote for him, because his ONLY consistent act is to make himself money and NOW he is looking to add History of being president ALONG with Money by running as Con Artist in Chief. His voters are setting them for a huge frustration and disillusionment.


Thanks for the well researched info! I was thinking about voting for Trump, but he really is just a faker.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of people who are ashamed to admit it in public are going to pull the lever for Trump when they get behind the curtain. If Bernie supporters stay home or go to green party as a protest vote she won't win


Then they are going to be sorely disappointed when Trump screws them over daily for the next 4 years. Everything those Americans work for will be gone: Jobs, social security, education, etc.

American will be no more.


He has done one thing only VERY WELL in his life, Screw some one for his benefit AT ANY COST.
1)Fake university(Harvard according to him): Screw anyone with money and teach crap
2) Screw American small business owners: Many small business owners who have done business with him have not been paid their contractual obligation but instead peanuts and told if they dont like they can sue him, knowing it will take years and so much money and they wont do that.
3) Screw American workers: Brought in Polish workers and paid them peanuts/nothing at the cost of American workers
4) Screw American manufacturing: Makes all his ties, suit, shirts etc in China and created hundreds of jobs in China
5)Screw Minorities:He wont rent out to minorities and discriminated against them.
6)Screw Banks that loaned him: Throughout his bankruptcies, he paid himself millions while running his companies into the ground and not paying back his loan
7) Screw people that worked for him: If someone ever worked for Drumpf and decided to cross him for whatever reason, he has taken them to court and made them sign Non disclosure agreement and settle out of court. If they dont agree they are free to spend all the money and time in defending a spurious case, for which he has a litany of lawyers
8)Screw Republican Primary voters: He has promised to bring back jobs WHEN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to do that in 4 years. Because America benefits more from trade(mostly degree holders and all consumers) than what it loses(mostly blue collar labor). But he has no plan to help the losers.
9)Screw the Anti-immigrants and White Supremacists: He has no plan to build a wall because it is not possible to build a wall across thousands of miles, congress wont approve it, mexico wont pay for it. Most of all, HE HAS NO INTENTION because he has grown a heart and now calls Obama heartless for deporting criminal illegal immigrants. http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/06/25/trumps-new-180-immigration-mass-deportations/
10)Screw Americans who vote for him: He is screwing the poor and STUPID americans who vote for him, because his ONLY consistent act is to make himself money and NOW he is looking to add History of being president ALONG with Money by running as Con Artist in Chief. His voters are setting them for a huge frustration and disillusionment.


Thanks for the well researched info! I was thinking about voting for Trump, but he really is just a faker.


Ha ha. Yeah, right.
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Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.

As a conservative, I agree with you completely - just from the opposite side. I cannot believe that the idiots voting in the primary have foisted such a horrible candidate on us (Trump) that we might end up with a corrupt liar with a total lack of integrity (as you noted.) Had we nominated someone decent - I liked Kasich - HRC wouldn't have had a chance. As it stands now, we're going to end up with an ignorant blowhard or a conniving liar - and the country will be in serious trouble.


I am the pp you responded to and I agree with you on Kasich. I'd have voted for him over Hillary any day although some of his positions on social issues are not compatible with mine. But fundamentally the guy is a decent person, he has done a good job as governor of OH and he was effective when he was in Congress. I would support him over Hillary any time.

It still blows my mind that out of all the people we have in this country we end up with a choice between as you put it "an ignorant blowhard or a conniving liar".
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Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.

As a conservative, I agree with you completely - just from the opposite side. I cannot believe that the idiots voting in the primary have foisted such a horrible candidate on us (Trump) that we might end up with a corrupt liar with a total lack of integrity (as you noted.) Had we nominated someone decent - I liked Kasich - HRC wouldn't have had a chance. As it stands now, we're going to end up with an ignorant blowhard or a conniving liar - and the country will be in serious trouble.


I am the pp you responded to and I agree with you on Kasich. I'd have voted for him over Hillary any day although some of his positions on social issues are not compatible with mine. But fundamentally the guy is a decent person, he has done a good job as governor of OH and he was effective when he was in Congress. I would support him over Hillary any time.

It still blows my mind that out of all the people we have in this country we end up with a choice between as you put it "an ignorant blowhard or a conniving liar".


PP here, and I'll still with you. Things are so bad with these two we're stuck with that I'd vote for any decent person over either of them - even if their policies were not aligned with my views. A big plus with Kasich is that he can compromise....a trait sorely needed. 300 million people in the country, and these are who we end up with? Very sad commentary on the state of the electorate - on BOTH sides.
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