July 14 Rasmussen - Trump 44% Clinton 37%

Anonymous


After the harsh words from the FBI director, the polls aren't surprising.

But people have such short memories -- polls shift a lot during the summer. Trump will likely get a convention bump, then Clinton will.

Trump is already out this morning calling Ruth Bader Ginsburg incompetent on Twitter and being a total ass. 4 more months of his raving will take more of a toll on the voters than Clinton's email issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And CBS/NYT has them in a dead heat, 40 to 40, which is also a huge shift in Trump's favor.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/

Who cares. It's all about the electrial college which, she is winning by a large margin .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

After the harsh words from the FBI director, the polls aren't surprising.

But people have such short memories -- polls shift a lot during the summer. Trump will likely get a convention bump, then Clinton will.

Trump is already out this morning calling Ruth Bader Ginsburg incompetent on Twitter and being a total ass. 4 more months of his raving will take more of a toll on the voters than Clinton's email issues.


Well Ginsberg apologized for what she said about him and as for forgetting what Comey said about her, I would wager that the RNC will run non-stop commercials showing what Clinton said and how she lied repeatedly about multiple issues regarding her emails and the private server and contrast it with what Comey said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And CBS/NYT has them in a dead heat, 40 to 40, which is also a huge shift in Trump's favor.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/

Who cares. It's all about the electrial college which, she is winning by a large margin .


She is tied or behind in several swing states.
Anonymous
I like to use the RealClearPolitics site to see all of the polls. Rasmussen notoriously favors Trump. Every other poll recorded show Clinton slightly ahead. Regardless, the popular vote doesn't determine much in the general election.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And CBS/NYT has them in a dead heat, 40 to 40, which is also a huge shift in Trump's favor.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/

Who cares. It's all about the electrial college which, she is winning by a large margin .


When she's losing in OH, FL, and PA, I can assure that she is not winning the Electoral College.
Anonymous
An even better analysis is on 538. It weights the polls etc. I think Trump's chances have increased from 23% to 29% over the past two weeks, but I still hesitate to put much stock in polls until after Labor day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:An even better analysis is on 538. It weights the polls etc. I think Trump's chances have increased from 23% to 29% over the past two weeks, but I still hesitate to put much stock in polls until after Labor day.


They don't factor in the results of these latest polls, which represent an enormous shift in Trump's favor.
Anonymous
The 538 info is up to as of 7/13 and shows Clinton's chances at 66% to Trump's 33%. That's a 10% gain for him, but still not exactly a close race.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 538 info is up to as of 7/13 and shows Clinton's chances at 66% to Trump's 33%. That's a 10% gain for him, but still not exactly a close race.


First of all, you're relying on a source that never believed Trump would win the nomination. We saw how that went.

Secondly, up to date as of 7/13 factors in the Qunnipiac series of polls, but NOT the major shifts from both Rasmussen and CBS/NYT. So no, it's not up to date.

Thirdly, saying that the chances are 66% to 33% is not the same as saying that 66% of voters support one over the other. Huge difference.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.


So you would rather prefer a vulgarian who lies about everything, who is a misogynist, who is a racist getting support from white supremacists, who has bankrupted many of his companies. No politician can be perfect because they are forced to lie by a stupid mass which wants someone who will fix everything for them. How is that possible, especially when your neighbor wants the exact opposite of what you want. So a politician who tells the truth that in this political situation nothing can get done WILL NOT WIN. Whose fault is it the politician OVER PROMISES knowing it cant be done?

And some people want a perfect candidate from their party who has never lied? Bernie is the biggest LIAR coz he promised free college, free healthcare, free everything when it is impossible to get any of it done with debt at 80% of GDP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.


So you would rather prefer a vulgarian who lies about everything, who is a misogynist, who is a racist getting support from white supremacists, who has bankrupted many of his companies. No politician can be perfect because they are forced to lie by a stupid mass which wants someone who will fix everything for them. How is that possible, especially when your neighbor wants the exact opposite of what you want. So a politician who tells the truth that in this political situation nothing can get done WILL NOT WIN. Whose fault is it the politician OVER PROMISES knowing it cant be done?

And some people want a perfect candidate from their party who has never lied? Bernie is the biggest LIAR coz he promised free college, free healthcare, free everything when it is impossible to get any of it done with debt at 80% of GDP.


np. I voted for Obama, but I'll probably vote for Trump this time. Trump's a liar, but Hillary is far more corrupt. And Hillary represents everything that's wrong with this country, in that the elite make the rules for the little people but act as though they are above them. I can't stomach that any more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.


So you would rather prefer a vulgarian who lies about everything, who is a misogynist, who is a racist getting support from white supremacists, who has bankrupted many of his companies. No politician can be perfect because they are forced to lie by a stupid mass which wants someone who will fix everything for them. How is that possible, especially when your neighbor wants the exact opposite of what you want. So a politician who tells the truth that in this political situation nothing can get done WILL NOT WIN. Whose fault is it the politician OVER PROMISES knowing it cant be done?

And some people want a perfect candidate from their party who has never lied? Bernie is the biggest LIAR coz he promised free college, free healthcare, free everything when it is impossible to get any of it done with debt at 80% of GDP.


np. I voted for Obama, but I'll probably vote for Trump this time. Trump's a liar, but Hillary is far more corrupt. And Hillary represents everything that's wrong with this country, in that the elite make the rules for the little people but act as though they are above them. I can't stomach that any more.


Baloney you ever voted for Obama but now you're voting Trump. Hillary is in no way more corrupt than Trump.

It certainly seems like the right wing shouting about Hillary gets into the soft targets easily.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a liberal, I just cannot believe that we ended up nominating such a seriously flawed candidate. She lies through her teeth all the time and totally lacks an ounce of integrity.

I can't stand the idea of Trump being elected president but if it happens the blame for it will be the dumbasses who foisted a disaster like Hillary as our nominee. The greatest favor that Comey could have done us was to have indicted her so that someone else would be nominated.

Trump has done just about everything wrong since he became the presumptive nominee but Hillary is so odious that there are people who would rather have a vulgarian like Trump.


So you would rather prefer a vulgarian who lies about everything, who is a misogynist, who is a racist getting support from white supremacists, who has bankrupted many of his companies. No politician can be perfect because they are forced to lie by a stupid mass which wants someone who will fix everything for them. How is that possible, especially when your neighbor wants the exact opposite of what you want. So a politician who tells the truth that in this political situation nothing can get done WILL NOT WIN. Whose fault is it the politician OVER PROMISES knowing it cant be done?

And some people want a perfect candidate from their party who has never lied? Bernie is the biggest LIAR coz he promised free college, free healthcare, free everything when it is impossible to get any of it done with debt at 80% of GDP.


np. I voted for Obama, but I'll probably vote for Trump this time. Trump's a liar, but Hillary is far more corrupt. And Hillary represents everything that's wrong with this country, in that the elite make the rules for the little people but act as though they are above them. I can't stomach that any more.


Baloney you ever voted for Obama but now you're voting Trump. Hillary is in no way more corrupt than Trump.

It certainly seems like the right wing shouting about Hillary gets into the soft targets easily.


If you're going to insist that I didn't vote for Obama, there's not much I'm willing to do an anonymous board to prove you wrong. But it's the truth.
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