| I don't know anyone who actually likes Trump or Hillary. Fact is they are both awful. I could not listen to anyone praise either one of them because they are both despicable human beings. Fortunately there are millions of other more interesting topics to discuss so it's pretty easy to talk about something else. |
You have come to the idea of voting for a man whose is loved by both China and Russia . Two countries whose antipathy for this country is second to none . If China and Russia ruling class say nice things about a presidential candidate , you should really be concerned if you love this country like you claim. You're voting for a man who ran a ponzu scheme with his trump university and defrauded individuals of money , you're voting for a man with zero legislative , executive and foreign policy experience . You're voting for a man whose bigotry shouldn't even be contested at this point . You're voting whose contempt for International treaties will most certainly guarantee worldwide instability the size of which we haven't seen world war 2 and you see nothing wrong with that ? You say the nexus blows up what trump says , but you fail to provide an example . Typical idiot . Trump is America's 21 century version of hurler and voting for him makes you a bigot. Either you view yourself as such or not |
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I actually think Hillary gets a bum rap. She been under attack for 25 Years, but here she still standing, while so many of her attackers fell in their own scandals. Not that she is any kind of saint. But saints don't make good presidents. |
Trump voters also fear being raped and robbed by Mexicans and African-Americans. They want the 50's and 60's back. This goes far, far beyond foreigners taking jobs. |
Cites or STFU |
My guess is this is why Kim Jung Un endorsed him
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God Bless your country and her people. What an all-around travesty
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#1 Rules that apply to everyone else do not apply to her: secret server. #2.Put US security at risk.: secret server #3 Lied about secret server. "Convenicence and violation of rule #1 #4 Lied to the families of the dead about a video. #5.Lied about sniper fire to make herself appear brave, I guess. #6.Pushed for LIbya attack--made a mess. #7 Supported Muslim spring --turned out not to be so springlike #8 Violated and stonewalled FOIA rules. #9 Didn't hire an IG for State #10 Lots and lots of issues during her husband's administration which were questionable--to include "losing" files from Rose Law #11 Hypocrisy: "We must believe women who say they are victims of sexual assault" meanwhile trashing those who accuse her husband. #12 Hypocrisy: "We must lower college tuition" while taking $$$$$ from colleges for 45 minute speeches. #13.Hypocrisy: Condemns Wall Street while taking $$$$$$ from them for speeches. #!4 Hyporcrisy: Won't release transcripts from #13 #15 Hypocrisy: Claims to be such a caring person, while laughing about defending a child rapist who was clearly guilty-- lots more....... |
How many lives and trillions of dollars have been lost because of those perceived transgressions . America voted twice for a former alcoholic , so called Christian who never achieved anything other than being the son of.Unlike your lousy steak peddling , spray tan wearing hero. Hillary has substance and experience . Logically with such longevity in the political trenches there will be some hits and misses. But unhinged she's not , unapologetically bigoted she's not, ignorant she's not ? Reckless she's not . She's the next president deal with it |
First, NEVER said Trump was my "hero". As a matter of fact, I cannot stand him! I have posted on these forums before that I cannot believe that --in a country this size-that these two (Trump and Clinton) are the best we can do! Agree that Trump is a terrible candidate. But, you say Hillary has "substance and experience". Yes, and it is proven that she has very poor judgment. Repeatedly. Some "hits and misses" far outweigh any accomplishments. There were lots of things not included on the list: CGI is another extremely questionable activity--again, not only does is demonstrate greed, but also judgment. Sorry, but her actions are far beyond "hits and misses". Hillary has proven poor judgment. Do I think Trump is better? Don't know. I'm still waiting for a Knight (or Lady) in shining armor to swoop in and save this coming election. There has to be another option. |
Nope. Your choices are Trump and Hillary. Sorry, I don't like it either. But, if you want to see a real case study of poor judgement and greed, just look at Trump's background. The only mitigating factor is that only screws people dumb enough to trust him. He's a terrible businessman. He inherited his wealth and then proceeded to earn money by buying overpaying for businesses that he ran into the ground. Read the story of Trump Airlines. He paid himself a big CEO salary and left his investors holding the bag. He did this with his casinos too. What do you think he will do to this country? |
Clinton is no better. Go read about Bill and the for profit university. Hillary's business dealings in Arkansas are certainly troubling, too. As for judgment, we do not know how many CIA agents were outed on her server--but their are redacted names. We still don't know what was in her emails. There is a troubling gap of emails about Benghazi in the preceding months before 9/11/12/ where there had been lots of emails about Benghazi earlier. Were they deleted? We don't know, do we? I don't hold Hillary responsible for failure to respond to Benghazi--I think that falls on DOD and the White HOuse. If they weren't prepared, that also falls on them. Brennan held briefings (according to WH website) about preparing for 9/11/12--what was in those briefings. It takes someone with very poor judgment and a very cold heart to lie to the parents of the dead. Why did she do that? That is beyond the pale of judgment and sensitivity. |
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So weird that people can go on and on about this.
I don't believe I know anyone who will vote for Trump. If I do, they've kept it to themselves. I wouldn't maintain an acquaintance or friendship with anyone who did, and therefore won't discuss it with anyone in any case. |