Does anyone ever get fired in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I inherited a teacher at my school who was involuntary transferred from her previous school and placed at mine. She tried but was completely ineffective and despite many attempts at coaching and support it was obvious that she shouldn't be teaching. It took me all year spending at least three days a week in her class observing her and writing her up to get her in front of the PAR panel. They recommended she be terminated but she chose to resign instead. MCEA makes it VERY difficult to get rid of teachers who are underperforming.

This isn’t how the process works. After her first time before the panel, she would have a year to improve with the assistance of a CT. You’re either leaving a lot out for dramatic purposes or you are flat out lying.

[Anonymous]

Tenure teachers may be difficult but new teachers are fair game with no security. At my school an AP was even making life hell for a National Board Cert Teacher. She survived the PAR process but had to defend and document every single day during the attacks when they were trying to snuff her out. She was a good teacher and teachers have to fight when bullies run the show. Wish admin had the same standards they might respect teachers more.

[Anonymous]

My neighbor in upcounty got fired from her job as an MCPS teacher, because she was having an inappropriate sexual relationship with an 18 year student. The mom of the student discovered the emails/texts etc and she was let go. Thankfully the student was not a minor otherwise she would have been a sex offender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tenure teachers may be difficult but new teachers are fair game with no security. At my school an AP was even making life hell for a National Board Cert Teacher. She survived the PAR process but had to defend and document every single day during the attacks when they were trying to snuff her out. She was a good teacher and teachers have to fight when bullies run the show. Wish admin had the same standards they might respect teachers more.

Let me start by saying that I am not an admin, but the NBCTs that I’ve worked with have not always been great teachers. About 1/4 were rockstars no matter what you threw at them. About 50% had a definite niche —they did well with a particular course or grade level OR, sadder still, were quite good with a particular type of student, but less successful with children who were exceptional in any way. And the last 1/4 were mediocre to down right awful. I couldn’t figure out how they got through the process. Or maybe they burned out during the process and were phoning it in.

Until this year, I’ve always felt too harried to undertake it. One of the niche teachers said I should give it a try when I get a job in a school that was less of a pressure cooker. I switched schools this year and now I feel like I might have the time in 2019-20. But I don’t think earning it would prove anything about how I teach in subsequent years.

[Anonymous]

The hi hip hoorape comment I think wasnt suppose to be a little offensive. It was suppose to be highly offensive. The fact that administrative negligence is rewarded and teachers are chewed up and spit out when they complain about violence- it reflects the offensive culture and extreme disrespect. It points out the irony and double standards that rape negligence is rewarded and teachers fortitude to stand up to broken systems is punished. Welcome to education as the tenure teachers say.

[Anonymous]

Weast the smartest of the crew? Yikes! You mean the guy that brought us the Pearson disaster and then got a nice trip to Australia out of it? http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2011/12/pearson-weast-timeline.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fire the nasty secretaries. Too many people looking for jobs to keep on those that are mean to the community. Step aside and make room for people who are happy to be working in a school.

+1

[Anonymous]

Remember the teacher in this massive thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/120/499746.page ? She apparently did finally get fired this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weast the smartest of the crew? Yikes! You mean the guy that brought us the Pearson disaster and then got a nice trip to Australia out of it? http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2011/12/pearson-weast-timeline.html

He was the smartest of the crew. I've worked under four supts in MCPS. Weast was able to create a professional growth system that is far superior to those in other counties. (I know b/c I've been trained in the MCPS protocol and in one used in three surrounding counties.)

Smith is no different; instead of developing curriculum to sell, he's purchasing canned curriculum. And he's relying upon EOS to make himself look good, too. I bet that when he retires with his fat pension, he'll be consulting for more big money.

Education is a business, people. In my experiences, those in central are not teacher-friendly, nor were many of them successful in the classroom. So how can we expect them to motivate tired and abused teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weast the smartest of the crew? Yikes! You mean the guy that brought us the Pearson disaster and then got a nice trip to Australia out of it? http://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2011/12/pearson-weast-timeline.html

He was the smartest of the crew. I've worked under four supts in MCPS. Weast was able to create a professional growth system that is far superior to those in other counties. (I know b/c I've been trained in the MCPS protocol and in one used in three surrounding counties.)

Smith is no different; instead of developing curriculum to sell, he's purchasing canned curriculum. And he's relying upon EOS to make himself look good, too. I bet that when he retires with his fat pension, he'll be consulting for more big money.

Education is a business, people. In my experiences, those in central are not teacher-friendly, nor were many of them successful in the classroom. So how can we expect them to motivate tired and abused teachers?

I don't have a problem with that, per se. We're not hiring them to be teachers, we're hiring them to be superintendents. Probably most teachers would not be successful as superintendents.

[Anonymous]

“Law enforcement sources say Maniya Jules told officers she was an administrator with MCPS, and later complained about racial injustice. Authorities charged her with a variety of drunk driving counts, plus a license restriction violation. Portions of the encounter were recorded on police body worn cameras, which was entered as evidence in the traffic case.”

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tenure teachers may be difficult but new teachers are fair game with no security. At my school an AP was even making life hell for a National Board Cert Teacher. She survived the PAR process but had to defend and document every single day during the attacks when they were trying to snuff her out. She was a good teacher and teachers have to fight when bullies run the show. Wish admin had the same standards they might respect teachers more.

Let me start by saying that I am not an admin, but the NBCTs that I’ve worked with have not always been great teachers. About 1/4 were rockstars no matter what you threw at them. About 50% had a definite niche —they did well with a particular course or grade level OR, sadder still, were quite good with a particular type of student, but less successful with children who were exceptional in any way. And the last 1/4 were mediocre to down right awful. I couldn’t figure out how they got through the process. Or maybe they burned out during the process and were phoning it in.

Until this year, I’ve always felt too harried to undertake it. One of the niche teachers said I should give it a try when I get a job in a school that was less of a pressure cooker. I switched schools this year and now I feel like I might have the time in 2019-20. But I don’t think earning it would prove anything about how I teach in subsequent years.

My first and only thought when I see “NBCT” next to someone’s name is that they have enough free time to do it, not that they had amazing teaching skills that are above most others. I’m always thinking about doing it, but I haven’t yet hit a point where the time invested would be worth the paltry payoff. Maybe when my kids are in college or something.

[Anonymous]

I had several teachers fired for what the rumor was statutory rape with students . They were never prosecuted but got fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember the teacher in this massive thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/120/499746.page ? She apparently did finally get fired this year.

False—she told several people in June that she was considering leaving/retiring, and she did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tenure teachers may be difficult but new teachers are fair game with no security. At my school an AP was even making life hell for a National Board Cert Teacher. She survived the PAR process but had to defend and document every single day during the attacks when they were trying to snuff her out. She was a good teacher and teachers have to fight when bullies run the show. Wish admin had the same standards they might respect teachers more.

Let me start by saying that I am not an admin, but the NBCTs that I’ve worked with have not always been great teachers. About 1/4 were rockstars no matter what you threw at them. About 50% had a definite niche —they did well with a particular course or grade level OR, sadder still, were quite good with a particular type of student, but less successful with children who were exceptional in any way. And the last 1/4 were mediocre to down right awful. I couldn’t figure out how they got through the process. Or maybe they burned out during the process and were phoning it in.

Until this year, I’ve always felt too harried to undertake it. One of the niche teachers said I should give it a try when I get a job in a school that was less of a pressure cooker. I switched schools this year and now I feel like I might have the time in 2019-20. But I don’t think earning it would prove anything about how I teach in subsequent years.

My first and only thought when I see “NBCT” next to someone’s name is that they have enough free time to do it, not that they had amazing teaching skills that are above most others. I’m always thinking about doing it, but I haven’t yet hit a point where the time invested would be worth the paltry payoff. Maybe when my kids are in college or something.

I have had some excellent teachers at my school who are NBCT, and I've had a few who make me wonder why I don't see such impressive skills in the classroom. It's a lot of work and reflecting but I'd take many of my non-NBCT staff over a handful of these folks.