Aftercare is cruel to kindergarteners

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Anonymous wrote:This has been covered before. Some folks have to work full time and don't really have a choice. .

Sure they do. Downsize, downsize, downsize. You don't need to live in a 3,000 sq ft place, hire help for cleaning and yardwork, wear the best clothes, have an iPhone5, drive an SUV with only one or two kids, use coupons and shop the specials. Cook more, go out to eat once a month or less.

It can easily be done, even in this area. But people here are too set on keeping up their extravagant lifestyles.

Priorities.

Hey, we won't judge you for living poor ok?

Nope, not living poor. Living within our means, comfortably. I can't help it if this is a foreign concept to you. However, "worth" is relative. My children are worth more than outsourcing them to someone else for most of their waking hours.

You better not send them to school at all then.

School is not "most of their waking hours." Reading is fundamental.

Oh really? 9 to 2:30 is not? Some kids sleep at 7pm. So that's at least half their waking hours.

What elementary school child goes to be at 7pm? Get real. My 4YO goes to bed at 8. Troll.

LISTEN UP YALL. This here 4yo goes to bed at 8pm. No child shall sleep earlier than 8pm. Got it?

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Anonymous wrote:This has been covered before. Some folks have to work full time and don't really have a choice. .

Sure they do. Downsize, downsize, downsize. You don't need to live in a 3,000 sq ft place, hire help for cleaning and yardwork, wear the best clothes, have an iPhone5, drive an SUV with only one or two kids, use coupons and shop the specials. Cook more, go out to eat once a month or less.

It can easily be done, even in this area. But people here are too set on keeping up their extravagant lifestyles.

Priorities.

Hey, we won't judge you for living poor ok?

Nope, not living poor. Living within our means, comfortably. I can't help it if this is a foreign concept to you. However, "worth" is relative. My children are worth more than outsourcing them to someone else for most of their waking hours.

You better not send them to school at all then.

School is not "most of their waking hours." Reading is fundamental.

Oh really? 9 to 2:30 is not? Some kids sleep at 7pm. So that's at least half their waking hours.

What elementary school child goes to be at 7pm? Get real. My 4YO goes to bed at 8. Troll.

All of my kids go to bed at 7pm - 7:30 at the latest and they are elementary school aged.

Mine too. My 5.5 yo rising kindergartner goes to bed at 7 p.m.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been covered before. Some folks have to work full time and don't really have a choice. .

Sure they do. Downsize, downsize, downsize. You don't need to live in a 3,000 sq ft place, hire help for cleaning and yardwork, wear the best clothes, have an iPhone5, drive an SUV with only one or two kids, use coupons and shop the specials. Cook more, go out to eat once a month or less.

It can easily be done, even in this area. But people here are too set on keeping up their extravagant lifestyles.

Priorities.

Hey, we won't judge you for living poor ok?

Nope, not living poor. Living within our means, comfortably. I can't help it if this is a foreign concept to you. However, "worth" is relative. My children are worth more than outsourcing them to someone else for most of their waking hours.

You better not send them to school at all then.

School is not "most of their waking hours." Reading is fundamental.

Oh really? 9 to 2:30 is not? Some kids sleep at 7pm. So that's at least half their waking hours.

What elementary school child goes to be at 7pm? Get real. My 4YO goes to bed at 8. Troll.

LISTEN UP YALL. This here 4yo goes to bed at 8pm. No child shall sleep earlier than 8pm. Got it?

LOL!

[Anonymous]

Eye roll back atcha, babe.

Do you see the irony of, on the one hand, insisting that your way is best while at the same time mocking me for what you assume is the same thing?

You're just a judgmental cunt. Accept it and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^Plus, please tell me how hard it is to raise your kids while THEY ARE AT SCHOOL ALL DAY. What, exactly, ARE you doing between 8-3?

I want you stay at home moms to answer this.

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Anonymous wrote:Eye roll back atcha, babe.

Do you see the irony of, on the one hand, insisting that your way is best while at the same time mocking me for what you assume is the same thing?

You're just a judgmental cunt. Accept it and move on.

Are you the one with the 4yo that goes to bed at 8pm?

[Anonymous]

I am not sure i buy the argument (for most 2-parent families, at least) that people "have no choice" but to put their kids in aftercare or else their kids would be unfed, unclothed, etc. unless you are a really, really high earner, quality aftercare programs for 2 or more kids is going to eat up almost all of your salary. So you aren't really making a ton of profit anyway. Plus, your kids would prefer to be with you. Stay home if you can.

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Anonymous wrote:So OP, what you're saying is that you depend on your husband for money so you can watch your kids all the time instead of "out-sourcing" their care?

What if he didn't make enough money for you to do this? Would you not have married him? What if he gets laid off? What if he quits his job and doesn't find another? Would you find work? What if the pressure of being the sole breadwinner stressed him to the point of killing him? What would you do then? What if he got tired of your judgmental ass and divorced you? What would you do then? At some point in your life, you may have to do things you are currently judging, and you had better hope that people don't judge you like you judge them.

Some folks are working to support their families, not to afford a huge house or new cars every two years.

True, but - AND GET THIS OP - some of us women also work because we want to, because we are smart, educated and accomplished and have no desire to stay at home all day watching The Chew and filing our nails until the kids get home from school. My son has an intelligent, independent woman as a mother and I am proud that I can be a great role model for him so that he will grow up to be a man who respects women for ALL that they can do, not just as some domestic caretaker for him and his children. So judge me all you want. . .I am judging you because you obviously have nothing better to do with your day than sit on your ass posting drivel like this. Why don't you go out and do something your kids can be proud of while they are at school?

This x 100!!!!

[Anonymous]

"True, but - AND GET THIS OP - some of us women also work because we want to, because we are smart, educated and accomplished and have no desire to stay at home all day watching The Chew and filing our nails until the kids get home from school. My son has an intelligent, independent woman as a mother and I am proud that I can be a great role model for him so that he will grow up to be a man who respects women for ALL that they can do, not just as some domestic caretaker for him and his children. So judge me all you want. . .I am judging you because you obviously have nothing better to do with your day than sit on your ass posting drivel like this. Why don't you go out and do something your kids can be proud of while they are at school?"

This is really a shame because you are suggesting that childcare and domestic work is somehow not as valid or significant as other work, and that is not the case.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure i buy the argument (for most 2-parent families, at least) that people "have no choice" but to put their kids in aftercare or else their kids would be unfed, unclothed, etc. unless you are a really, really high earner, quality aftercare programs for 2 or more kids is going to eat up almost all of your salary. So you aren't really making a ton of profit anyway. Plus, your kids would prefer to be with you. Stay home if you can.

It's also to keep a toe (at least!) in the workforce. What are all you SAHMs going to do in a few short years after your kids are in school FT, or grown? What? What are you going to DO" with yourselves? You cannot expect your kids to fulfill your existence forever. You need to have more. Look ahead a few years, and plan. The early childhood years do not last forever and then what is left? A hole in your resume and a whole lot of time to fill with. . what? volunteer activities? Yakking at the pool? That is a pretty empty existence.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure i buy the argument (for most 2-parent families, at least) that people "have no choice" but to put their kids in aftercare or else their kids would be unfed, unclothed, etc. unless you are a really, really high earner, quality aftercare programs for 2 or more kids is going to eat up almost all of your salary. So you aren't really making a ton of profit anyway. Plus, your kids would prefer to be with you. Stay home if you can.

Aftercare for two kids would run about $500 in DC schools. Try again.

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WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL FEEDING THE TROLLS?

Yes, I'm yelling. Because, really, these threads accomplish absolutely nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:"True, but - AND GET THIS OP - some of us women also work because we want to, because we are smart, educated and accomplished and have no desire to stay at home all day watching The Chew and filing our nails until the kids get home from school. My son has an intelligent, independent woman as a mother and I am proud that I can be a great role model for him so that he will grow up to be a man who respects women for ALL that they can do, not just as some domestic caretaker for him and his children. So judge me all you want. . .I am judging you because you obviously have nothing better to do with your day than sit on your ass posting drivel like this. Why don't you go out and do something your kids can be proud of while they are at school?"

This is really a shame because you are suggesting that childcare and domestic work is somehow not as valid or significant as other work, and that is not the case.

You cannot fill your life with this forever. What are you going to do after these few short years when your children do not need all of this hovering care?

[Anonymous]

Love how we have so many replies so quickly from "working moms." So you are at work, fighting on DCUM? Wow. Really could choice to go to work so you can realize your full potential.

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Anonymous wrote:WHY ARE YOU ALL STILL FEEDING THE TROLLS?

Yes, I'm yelling. Because, really, these threads accomplish absolutely nothing.

True, I have no idea, really.