H1b visas. Anyone else work in technology and see the issues with this program and outsourcing?

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OP, do you have any thoughts on the misuse of the Einstein visa?

OnlyFans models and social media influencers are claiming half of coveted US visas meant for movie stars
https://nypost.com/2026/01/06/us-news/onlyfans-models-and-social-media-influencers-are-claiming-half-of-coveted-us-visas-meant-for-movie-stars/

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

I would love to prevent off shoring. But think about the realities for a minute. You are a multinational company. You, as an executive, have a target to hit on productivity and you are given a budget. Btw, this is directly tied to your share prices which is all your CEO and the Board worries about. You can get decent engineers in the US. But they are scattered around and are expensive. You can go to Bangalore, where your company has a building, and get competent engineers at a 1/4 the cost. These folks aren’t ever going to make it past the senior manager level. You hire in the US to find those kids who you want to become Directors and Senior Directors and VPs in the long run. So what is the VP to do?

And how does the US by policy prevent multinational companies from hiring labor internationally?

are you the fake hiring manager above who claims you can't find american talent? Yet you cant tell me what roles you are hiring for and where you would, for example, try to look for AI engineers in the US.

you're clearly operating in bad faith, and are very aware of the fixes that could work
1. simple and significant and fast tax credits for US technical hires.
2. tie federal money to US workforce requirements.
3. add some friction to offshore work- lower tax deductions, consider a flat extra tax, consider extra restrictions/regulations for data access, etc.

there are plenty of policy ways to do this, but yet we do not. and i am not against all visas, but they need to be used discretely and with policy choices that reduce offshoring, and then we will see real improvement.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.

This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't understand the scope of H1B overtaking the U.S. high tech landscape? Take a drive to the Broadlands neighborhood in Ashburn, VA. It is heavily Indian. They are buying new $1M+ houses with all the bells and whistles.

Do you think these H1B immigrants who are buying these homes are underpaid and overworked? Man, do I have a bridge to sell ya.

There are other previous threads that carefully spell out the scam pipeline involving bribery, South Asians responsible for the hiring process, etc. I urge everyone to read them.

This scam pipeline is hurting American workers. I live in Loudoun County and see the surging population of H1B immigrants. My friends and neighbors, brilliant and profoundly qualified, are losing their jobs to these people.

This is very true. The same is happening in Atlanta suburbs, and it’s astonishing how quickly this has taken place. Entire new neighborhoods with $800k+ homes are being populated with Indian families, in areas they didn’t previously have a presence in. It’s the jobs. They are getting paid $$$$$$, and they hire each other.

Sounds like you done bought the immigrant bridge, what a moron.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

I would love to prevent off shoring. But think about the realities for a minute. You are a multinational company. You, as an executive, have a target to hit on productivity and you are given a budget. Btw, this is directly tied to your share prices which is all your CEO and the Board worries about. You can get decent engineers in the US. But they are scattered around and are expensive. You can go to Bangalore, where your company has a building, and get competent engineers at a 1/4 the cost. These folks aren’t ever going to make it past the senior manager level. You hire in the US to find those kids who you want to become Directors and Senior Directors and VPs in the long run. So what is the VP to do?

And how does the US by policy prevent multinational companies from hiring labor internationally?

are you the fake hiring manager above who claims you can't find american talent? Yet you cant tell me what roles you are hiring for and where you would, for example, try to look for AI engineers in the US.

you're clearly operating in bad faith, and are very aware of the fixes that could work
1. simple and significant and fast tax credits for US technical hires.
2. tie federal money to US workforce requirements.
3. add some friction to offshore work- lower tax deductions, consider a flat extra tax, consider extra restrictions/regulations for data access, etc.

there are plenty of policy ways to do this, but yet we do not. and i am not against all visas, but they need to be used discretely and with policy choices that reduce offshoring, and then we will see real improvement.

First, you are talking to multiple people. That person is not me

I don’t claim you can’t find people in the US. I am claiming that off shoring is cheaper and that for lower cost, you can find higher quality talent.

I also claim that there is a scale issue in the US. Of course you can find individuals in the US - but can you find teams of high quality individuals at the scale you can find elsewhere? BTW, I do think AI is going to upset this balance v soon.

Finally on the policy incentives, you have no idea what you are talking about. Corporations already pay v little tax on the US (thanks to Republican policies). The leverage is much less than you would think. Second, there is such a thing as the “source principle”. Multinationals pay taxes at the source. So if I hire a team in India, I have to deal with the Indian tax code and the US does not tax me on it. Countries where companies are HQ’d of course have taxation rights but everybody is us g complex territorial activities to mask this. It isn’t at all easy to discourage off shoring. And anyone who tells you otherwise (Dems for a long time) are lying or don’t understand the complexities.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

Sorry your kid got their CS degree at a grade-inflated degree-mill country club instead of an inexpensive school like the Indians did.

Overpriced US schools aren't immigrants' fault.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent won WWII and put an Ameican man on the moon too.

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I did the OPe of threads like this are also the ones bragging about their playing lacrosse and having sex instead of doing homework.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent won WWII and put an Ameican man on the moon too.

By foreign talent, do you mean a handful of people or a million Indians with fake diplomas?

The people you refer to you consisted of dozens of war criminals whose only alternative was to be hanged. In other words, they didn't need a visa and their skills were necessary to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

Sorry your kid got their CS degree at a grade-inflated degree-mill country club instead of an inexpensive school like the Indians did.

Overpriced US schools aren't immigrants' fault.

Actually, they kind of are. They are mostly run by immigrants, who don't transfer skills well.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent won WWII and put an Ameican man on the moon too.

Not solely by itself. But, the armed forces didn't fire all their American troops and replace then with foreign talent. NASA did't fire all of its American astronauts and mission controllers and replace them with foreign talent. That is what we are talking about here.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent won WWII and put an Ameican man on the moon too.

By foreign talent, do you mean a handful of people or a million Indians with fake diplomas?

The people you refer to you consisted of dozens of war criminals whose only alternative was to be hanged. In other words, they didn't need a visa and their skills were necessary to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Or 911 terrorists.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Sure, a few people. Big whoop. Your claim was we used foreign talent to invent the microchip, the internet, integrated circuits, and the personal computer, because we don't have tbe talent domestically. And you're wrong, on both counts. H1B and offshoring in tech are being used by American corporations to turn a bigger profit at the expense of American workers.

Foreign talent won WWII and put an Ameican man on the moon too.

Untrue:

Claims that America’s foundational technologies were "strictly due to foreign talent" don’t survive contact with the record. The integrated circuit (Kilby and Noyce), microprocessor (Hoff, Mazor, Faggin), ARPANET/internet (Cerf, Kahn, Roberts, Kleinrock), and personal computer (Roberts, Jobs, Wozniak, Estridge) were all developed primarily by American‑born engineers working in U.S. labs funded by U.S. industry and government. Yes, some foreign‑born contributors were part of the ecosystem, but the leadership, funding, and industrial capacity behind these breakthroughs were overwhelmingly domestic. The same is true for WWII and Apollo: a few high‑profile foreign scientists participated, but the Manhattan Project, U.S. wartime production, and the 400,000‑person Apollo workforce were dominated by American engineers, machinists, programmers, and technicians.

Invoking those historical contributions to justify modern H‑1B and offshoring practices is a category error. Studies from the GAO and Economic Policy Institute show that today’s H‑1B system is used largely to secure cheaper, more easily controlled labor rather than to get better talent, or to fill genuine skill shortages, and offshoring persists because it cuts labor costs by 40–70 percent. None of this reflects a lack of American talent; it reflects corporate incentives to suppress wages and maximize margins. Historical immigrant contributions are real, but they don’t transform contemporary labor‑arbitrage strategies into national necessities.

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Anonymous wrote:People like you OP do not hire for jobs like I do. You could not be more run in terms of skills. I hope and want and wish to fill my jobs with American talent from a culture and language/comms perspective. However I have Russian, Indian, Chinese and ever more frequently Nigerian talent in engineering and software development to choose. You think Americans are studying and getting skilled in engineering and you are wrong. So. Totally. Wrong. Culturally, Americans do best in finance, sales, business, law. They do not do math and tech. Go to high schools and you'll see all the kids playing sports are Americans and all those playing an instrument are either American who have a strong tradition culturally in academic all around excellence or they are typically those with a foreign last name. There's a tradition of studying math, science and STEM that's rooted in tradition v cultural oh I think that might be cool but maybe I'll go where the money is and it's easier attitude among most Americans. Quite honestly the truth is Americans are rockstar sales people. They are not rock star geeks

Americans created the microchip, integrated circuits, the internet,, and the personal computer.

Using foreign talent. It has been our secret sauce. Always.

Wrong. All of those were created by people born in America, who went through the American education system.

https://www.betaboom.com/magazine/article/american-immigrants-built-generation-defining-tech

Take a look at these. Foreign born American inventors have always been critical to American success. As far back as Nikola Tesla.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2023/01/12/highly-inventive-immigrants-also-make-natives-more-innovative/

Hey troll/fake hiring manager. We are not talking about not allowing any foreign born people in the US. We are discussing offshoring huge swaths of American industry at the expense of our young people who are also being saddled with educational debt, poor health care and everything else this country brings

Sorry your kid got their CS degree at a grade-inflated degree-mill country club instead of an inexpensive school like the Indians did.

Overpriced US schools aren't immigrants' fault.

I was involved in engineering licensure and degree accreditation for a number of years and can tell you your perceptions are off base.

Many of those Indian STEM degrees don't stack up - university programs in India are far more inconsistent than US STEM programs, which must meet ABET Accreditation standards. Quality of Indian degree programs varies wildly and many are basically just run like degree mills. Very few Indian programs can meet that same ABET standard (like some of the top tier IITs, IISc Bangalore, NIT Trichy, BITS Pilani - but the majority of other STEM programs in India do not), but they are trying to increase the number of schools that can meet US ABET standards. A 2023 study found that only 45% of Indian STEM graduates are employable. Many graduate lacking critical skills.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of qualified American tech workers struggling to find work right now.

H1-B and offshoring has been massively abused by US tech companies to undercut and screw over our own homegrown talent.

It needs to end.

follow @chrisbrunet on Twitter. Great examples of how H1B is used to replace US citizens.

Especially how ...
- US universities claim they can't find "skilled" labor
- US universities train our children for "skilled" labor but apparently fail.
- Democrats sue to keep US universities ability to replace US citizens and continue to "fail" at producing skilled labor.

It would be comical if it was not so damaging. and somehow liberals believe this nonsense.

Texas A&M University just hired an H-1B "Operations Research and Reporting Analyst"

Salary: $57,262

The TAMU employee in charge of facilitating this hire was Sahar Zubairy, Senior Immigration Coordinator

This is probably more about finding jobs for spouses of faculty.