Missy Smith anti-abortion ad

[Anonymous]

I am pretty sure with there are very few "time place and manner" on political ads because they have a heightened degree of protection over non-political speech under the First Amendment. I doubt content is even part of the legal analysis because it is protected speech. It's been a long time since I took Constitutional Law, but that's my guess.

[Anonymous]

that's "time place and manner" restrictions. Sorry for the typo.

[Anonymous]

I saw the title of this post a few days ago and 1) had no idea about Missy Smith so 2) paid no attention to the thread.

Recorded Saturday Night Live and watched it tonight.

DH and I were mortified to see that ad appear in the recording. Also dumbstruck regarding the legality of WRC being forced to air it. I cannot believe it is being shown at all, let alone before 9 pm. (have not read all the responses but did see a number of posts about the ad running prior to 9 pm.)

I am in the prolife camp, but find the ad, and its airing, completely irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

Hi all,
I'm not a mom or dad, I'm someone's daughter...and just caught this on Comedy Central. Heads up, it's horrific, and completely running in the middle of cartoons. Anyone old enough to catch Futurama or South Park is gonna catch this.
Disgusting. Truly.

[Anonymous]

How can such ads be protected by free speech and the decision of TV stations NOT to air them not be protected as free speech?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this, 4 in the afternoon, with my daughter sitting right here. It sickens me that this woman stoops to such a low level to make her point. She is ashamed of herself for her mistake. The general public shouldn't have to pay the price for a choice she made years ago. I could care less about this topic, but I do care what my child was just exposed to with no warning whatsoever. If you're truly concerned about the welfare and wellbeing of our children, consider the damage just done to the children who were innocently exposed to your dimented ad. I certainly hope this lady in not elected.

At least your daughter is alive to watch it. What about the baby that was aborted in the ad? Think he or she will ever have any objections? Oh, wait, no they won't.

And, there was warning before the ad showed. Maybe you should be a more responsible parent instead of letting the tv babysit your kid.

Okay, let's say you're anti-abortion. Do you have your children watch abortions or look at abortion photos to keep them 'on your side'? If you're anti-war, do you have your children study images of soldier and civilian corpses to show them how horrible war is?

C'mon. Use your noggin.

[Anonymous]

Abortion is definately such an ugly side of human selfishness....very similar to slavery in it's devaluation of helpless humans. Children should not see abortion or slavery images. The things we do to avoid the inconvenience of raising a child or having to work a plantation really shows the cruelty we are all capable of.

[Anonymous]

Third trimester abortions to save the life of the mother are NEVER necessary. The solution is a c-section in a qualified hospital. This allows for the possibility of both lives being saved, not just one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the pp, bit if it is the third trimester and the mother is in danger, wouldn't it be just as fast/safe to deliver the child alive?

Do you know anything about childbirth?

[Anonymous]

Are you stuck in the 60's? Have you ever seen an ultrasound? The heart begins beating at 18 days. I think this old argument was resolved a long time ago. With ultrasound technology, most pro-choicers have given up trying to argue the old "blob" theory and now just focus on the "choice" argument. They know exactly what they are aborting, but choice trumps all that.

Anonymous wrote:

In my view, killing babies (in the womb or outside the womb) is wrong...

Couldn't agree more. Thank goodness a fertilized egg, or an embryo, or a fetus is not a baby.

[Anonymous]

I saw the ad and I don't know that "horrified" is a word to describe how I felt, but "disgusted" certainly comes strongly to mind. This idiot woman is gratuitously blaming politics and everything but herself for her own decisions in life. She claims to be intelligent enough that somehow she should be worth of representing people in Congress but she isn't discerning enough to think through the repercussions of her decision for her own abortion? Whether it is true that she believes others are responsible for her poor decisions or whether she's simply lying for political advantage, in either of the cases, it is simply unconscionable that someone could make such a specious, disgusting claim, be allowed to air such an idiotic view or statement, and subject us to her sad shitfaced crap, is truly a sad indictment of where we have apparantly gone in society. I hope that somehow karma can deliver her an equivalent dumptruck full amount of ill feeling, stomach wrenching, etc. May she choke on her own bile.

[Anonymous]

First of all, there is nothing pretty about a first trimester abortion. My friend was the nurse who had to re-assemble these dismembered babies - 12 weeks and under. She went home with a tiny little hand stuck to the lapel of her coat one day after work and that was the end of the job for her. You are all kidding yourselves if you have it in your heads that for some reason a first trimester abortion is a simple, clean procedure. PP has done an excellent job of selling it as such, but the truth is it is a horrific procedure - especially for the fetus.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:almost all abortions are done in the first trimester, and the shocking images of dead and dismembered babies do not resemble the reality of most abortions.

the vast majority of abortions done after the first trimester are done for medical reasons, and it is not for us to judge a family's decision not to carry on a pregnancy of a doomed infant, who is unlikely to survive its first breath. This "choice" is a heartbreaking choice for these families, aborting a long-awaited and very much wanted child, whose condition is incompatible with life.

This is an excellent point. Most of the propaganda photos used to incite irrational rear and revulsion are taken of late third-trimester fetuses--which pretty much is done exclusively for catastrophic medical reasons.

I think it's great that assholes like this Smith person--and the "pro-life" camp in general--regularly take advantage of the personal tragedy of folks who've lost wanted babies. It's a bit like if anti-war activists snuck photos of dead American servicemen, and aired them on NBC at noon. "What? You can't handle the truth??"

Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

I am horrified that I just clicked on the link and watched that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First of all, there is nothing pretty about a first trimester abortion. My friend was the nurse who had to re-assemble these dismembered babies - 12 weeks and under. She went home with a tiny little hand stuck to the lapel of her coat one day after work and that was the end of the job for her. You are all kidding yourselves if you have it in your heads that for some reason a first trimester abortion is a simple, clean procedure. PP has done an excellent job of selling it as such, but the truth is it is a horrific procedure - especially for the fetus.

Hello propaganda...isn't it nice to always have "friends" who experience this. Totally false and anybody with even a remote medical background knows it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am horrified that I just clicked on the link and watched that.

OMG - that ad is horrible. I would really have a hard time explaining to my 5 and 3 yos what that ad is about. Thankfully we haven't seen it on TV. I will avoid TV tonight as well.

[Anonymous]

What is totally false? How do you know? Yes, this is my best friend who is an RN. In fact, we had been friends for years and she just recently told me that she had worked in an abortion clinic - it isn't something she is proud of or would like to broadcast. She was a pro-choice feminist who actually chose to work in an abortion clinic because she wanted to help women in "need" and it was her job to re-assemble. This job blew her theory of a first trimester pregnancy being nothing but "tissue". She saw the tiny parts, hands and feet and everything else, and decided that this was in fact a baby they were killing and she was a participant. Needless to say, she is now very pro-life, but why wouldn't she be? She witnessed something first hand that most of us just hear about from one side or the other. Propaganda? I would say the propaganda is from the rabid abortion industry who try to convince women that this is going to be a clean procedure. If you are sedated, you may wake up and feel like it was clean and easy but the nurses and doctors involved know better.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, there is nothing pretty about a first trimester abortion. My friend was the nurse who had to re-assemble these dismembered babies - 12 weeks and under. She went home with a tiny little hand stuck to the lapel of her coat one day after work and that was the end of the job for her. You are all kidding yourselves if you have it in your heads that for some reason a first trimester abortion is a simple, clean procedure. PP has done an excellent job of selling it as such, but the truth is it is a horrific procedure - especially for the fetus.

Hello propaganda...isn't it nice to always have "friends" who experience this. Totally false and anybody with even a remote medical background knows it.