Size & placement of regional magnet programs set to decimate non-host, non-rich schools

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

I just checked the test stats from OSA (office of shared accountability. Believe it or not, there is still somewhere in central office that talks about accountability). Einstein do not consistently offer IB HL math (missing 2022, 2023), IBL bio (missing 2021, 2024) and IB Physics (missing 2020, 2022) in the past 6 years. Not too bad as other local IB programs also miss data here or there. Springbrook and Watkins Mill seem to be most seriously seen missing offering IB courses in a consistent pattern.

IB and AP aren't equal. IB is very different. Not al kids want AP. Yes, you do need to do engineering if you want to major in it in college. Your opinion is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Your Einstein grads had it different. The school admin has progressively decimated advanced classwork in recent years. I could be off by a year, but I think the first class for which there were no pre-IB courses are Seniors this year, no? That's just one example.

It's changed a lot in the past few years with reduced AP and advanced classes so if their child was a grad, that means they were under the former principal who has a very different point of view and made different decisions than the current one.

Seems to an outside spectator that the biggest problem with Einstein is not loosing the prestigious VAC program, loosing access to Wheaton engineering program, or small population size, but rather a troublesome principal.

I wouldn't say the principal is troublesome. He has his strengths and weaknesses, but the school doesn't care about the smarter kids nor some of the specialty programs they do offer. He'd also rather be liked than a strong leader standing up to the kids and setting limits, rules, etc. He focuses on the middle and lower performing kids, which is fine, but then doesn't encourage smarter kids to attend promising their needs will be met when they aren't.

The arts are what draws students to the school, but the classes are also very limited due to staffing.

Einstein is overcrowded now. It needs a reduction and get rid of the portables but the issue with that will be reduced classes with reduce staffing and what will be cut as the offerings are so limited now.

Its a good school, mostly great teachers and staff, and has lots of strenghts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

You do need to have engineering classes if you want to major in engineering and get into a competitive school. IB is not the same as AP, especially in math and science. Your opinion doesn't matter, colleges opinions matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Your Einstein grads had it different. The school admin has progressively decimated advanced classwork in recent years. I could be off by a year, but I think the first class for which there were no pre-IB courses are Seniors this year, no? That's just one example.

It's changed a lot in the past few years with reduced AP and advanced classes so if their child was a grad, that means they were under the former principal who has a very different point of view and made different decisions than the current one.

Seems to an outside spectator that the biggest problem with Einstein is not loosing the prestigious VAC program, loosing access to Wheaton engineering program, or small population size, but rather a troublesome principal.

I wouldn't say the principal is troublesome. He has his strengths and weaknesses, but the school doesn't care about the smarter kids nor some of the specialty programs they do offer. He'd also rather be liked than a strong leader standing up to the kids and setting limits, rules, etc. He focuses on the middle and lower performing kids, which is fine, but then doesn't encourage smarter kids to attend promising their needs will be met when they aren't.

The arts are what draws students to the school, but the classes are also very limited due to staffing.

Einstein is overcrowded now. It needs a reduction and get rid of the portables but the issue with that will be reduced classes with reduce staffing and what will be cut as the offerings are so limited now.

Its a good school, mostly great teachers and staff, and has lots of strenghts.

I always hear people talk about the VAC at Einstein. Is the financial academy a draw? I know one student who's going there mainly for that program.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

I just checked the test stats from OSA (office of shared accountability. Believe it or not, there is still somewhere in central office that talks about accountability). Einstein do not consistently offer IB HL math (missing 2022, 2023), IBL bio (missing 2021, 2024) and IB Physics (missing 2020, 2022) in the past 6 years. Not too bad as other local IB programs also miss data here or there. Springbrook and Watkins Mill seem to be most seriously seen missing offering IB courses in a consistent pattern.

IB and AP aren't equal. IB is very different. Not al kids want AP. Yes, you do need to do engineering if you want to major in it in college. Your opinion is wrong.

What are you talking about? Neither AP or IB curriculum offers engineering specifically. For college application, if they don't see an engineering class on your school's bulletin, they won't force your child to take an outside-of-school equivalent. Your kid is judged amongst their peers, i.e., other seniors at Einstein, not seniors from Blair or Wheaton. So if your kid is really interested in engineering track, he/she should take IB physics and/or IB chemistry/bio to demonstrate the interests and foundation.

I don't understand why HSs should offer both AP and IB. That could be too overwhelming, and honestly speaking, AP is slightly more rigorous, difficult and broader choices than IB in general sense. I really think we shouldn't have so many IB programs in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

You do need to have engineering classes if you want to major in engineering and get into a competitive school. IB is not the same as AP, especially in math and science. Your opinion doesn't matter, colleges opinions matter.

Kids with good grades in STEM classes go to engineering programs at top colleges all the time. Engineering HS classes are rare and many of them are for fun projects and not really for mastering anything in particular and college admission professionals know it.

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What are considered STEM.classes in HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

I just checked the test stats from OSA (office of shared accountability. Believe it or not, there is still somewhere in central office that talks about accountability). Einstein do not consistently offer IB HL math (missing 2022, 2023), IBL bio (missing 2021, 2024) and IB Physics (missing 2020, 2022) in the past 6 years. Not too bad as other local IB programs also miss data here or there. Springbrook and Watkins Mill seem to be most seriously seen missing offering IB courses in a consistent pattern.

IB and AP aren't equal. IB is very different. Not al kids want AP. Yes, you do need to do engineering if you want to major in it in college. Your opinion is wrong.

What are you talking about? Neither AP or IB curriculum offers engineering specifically. For college application, if they don't see an engineering class on your school's bulletin, they won't force your child to take an outside-of-school equivalent. Your kid is judged amongst their peers, i.e., other seniors at Einstein, not seniors from Blair or Wheaton. So if your kid is really interested in engineering track, he/she should take IB physics and/or IB chemistry/bio to demonstrate the interests and foundation.

I don't understand why HSs should offer both AP and IB. That could be too overwhelming, and honestly speaking, AP is slightly more rigorous, difficult and broader choices than IB in general sense. I really think we shouldn't have so many IB programs in the first place.

Einstein used to offer both AP and IB science classes several years back, and they couldn't get enough students to register to keep offering both classes, so they dropped the APs in favor of IBs, as they are required to offer IB science classes as an IB school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

You do need to have engineering classes if you want to major in engineering and get into a competitive school. IB is not the same as AP, especially in math and science. Your opinion doesn't matter, colleges opinions matter.

Kids with good grades in STEM classes go to engineering programs at top colleges all the time. Engineering HS classes are rare and many of them are for fun projects and not really for mastering anything in particular and college admission professionals know it.

+1. You absolutely do not need HS engineering classes to get into engineering programs at college. Just take the most rigorous science and math classes your school happens to offer, whatever they may be.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

The IB excuse is pretty simple to counter. B-CC also is an IB school. It also is not an IB magnet. It has scads of APs, including science APs, to go along with the more rigorous IB offerings, not to mention a local-only engineering program with similar offerings to Wheaton's. Those things are not available (no longer so, for those who remember better offerings years back) right next door at Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

You do need to have engineering classes if you want to major in engineering and get into a competitive school. IB is not the same as AP, especially in math and science. Your opinion doesn't matter, colleges opinions matter.

Kids with good grades in STEM classes go to engineering programs at top colleges all the time. Engineering HS classes are rare and many of them are for fun projects and not really for mastering anything in particular and college admission professionals know it.

They aren't rare in MCPS and you are saying kids with good grades in stem, but einstein doesn't have those stem classes so how does that work?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

You do need to have engineering classes if you want to major in engineering and get into a competitive school. IB is not the same as AP, especially in math and science. Your opinion doesn't matter, colleges opinions matter.

Kids with good grades in STEM classes go to engineering programs at top colleges all the time. Engineering HS classes are rare and many of them are for fun projects and not really for mastering anything in particular and college admission professionals know it.

+1. You absolutely do not need HS engineering classes to get into engineering programs at college. Just take the most rigorous science and math classes your school happens to offer, whatever they may be.

Taking no STEM, no AP science, etc. isn't getting you into a good engineering or stem college program. There is no rigour and that is the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

I just checked the test stats from OSA (office of shared accountability. Believe it or not, there is still somewhere in central office that talks about accountability). Einstein do not consistently offer IB HL math (missing 2022, 2023), IBL bio (missing 2021, 2024) and IB Physics (missing 2020, 2022) in the past 6 years. Not too bad as other local IB programs also miss data here or there. Springbrook and Watkins Mill seem to be most seriously seen missing offering IB courses in a consistent pattern.

IB and AP aren't equal. IB is very different. Not al kids want AP. Yes, you do need to do engineering if you want to major in it in college. Your opinion is wrong.

What are you talking about? Neither AP or IB curriculum offers engineering specifically. For college application, if they don't see an engineering class on your school's bulletin, they won't force your child to take an outside-of-school equivalent. Your kid is judged amongst their peers, i.e., other seniors at Einstein, not seniors from Blair or Wheaton. So if your kid is really interested in engineering track, he/she should take IB physics and/or IB chemistry/bio to demonstrate the interests and foundation.

I don't understand why HSs should offer both AP and IB. That could be too overwhelming, and honestly speaking, AP is slightly more rigorous, difficult and broader choices than IB in general sense. I really think we shouldn't have so many IB programs in the first place.

Einstein used to offer both AP and IB science classes several years back, and they couldn't get enough students to register to keep offering both classes, so they dropped the APs in favor of IBs, as they are required to offer IB science classes as an IB school.

There are enough students to hold at least one class. The issue is that many kids are going to Wheaton and Blair or private schools because of the lack of course offerings. If it were offered, perhaps more kids would stay at Einstein, making it a stronger school. The admin actively discourages kids from taking advanced classes, including Calc BC. Maybe some of the posters here are the ones saying its not necessary and not caring about how much it hurts students. Competitive programs want to see AP science, engineering, computer science and other classes. If a student is equal in grades and scores but has more stem, they will be choosen.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Rumor? There are two engineering classes right now, both taught during the same period/same teacher (who is a good teacher and tries hard but its an impossible task). There are no AP science classes at Einstein right now. Things have changed a lot since your kids went to school. Don't tell us we are lying when we have kids at the school. Is it possible they get in, of course. Does it make it harder when you don't have the same rigor, absolutely?

I still have a child at the school. It is disingenuous to say they don’t have AP science classes, because it’s an IB school and they have IB science classes. And you don’t have to have engineering classes in high school in my opinion.

I just checked the test stats from OSA (office of shared accountability. Believe it or not, there is still somewhere in central office that talks about accountability). Einstein do not consistently offer IB HL math (missing 2022, 2023), IBL bio (missing 2021, 2024) and IB Physics (missing 2020, 2022) in the past 6 years. Not too bad as other local IB programs also miss data here or there. Springbrook and Watkins Mill seem to be most seriously seen missing offering IB courses in a consistent pattern.

IB and AP aren't equal. IB is very different. Not al kids want AP. Yes, you do need to do engineering if you want to major in it in college. Your opinion is wrong.

Best bet is to contact your college of choice and find out what they accept. I went to an engineering college free ride. I took AP courses and tests to clep out of the humanities, comparative government etc. However, they didn't really care for calculus. I took calculus as a Junior because I was interested in it. The college didn't really want the AP tests for STEM computer science or calculus; they preferred I go through their program. They did give their own calc test(their final exam from their calc program), which I passed but they still wanted me to go through it. I got the second highest grade on the test out of two thousand students when I took it as a freshman the professor called me into his office to tell me this. Engineering was easy. They wanted to give me Masters if I stayed another year because I had enough credits graduating there also, but I took the hard route and bounced around grad school it took me five years to get the Masters enrolling in two different programs and starting over because they don't transfer the credit. Oh well at least I didn't have to pay for it. I highly recommend not paying for college.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any parent send their kids to a watered down “magnet”. Won’t happen. Look at what they tried to do the IB programs at Watkins mill and Kennedy.

They'll go if the host school offers better opportunities than the home school and they can swing the commute.

We are zoned for Einstein. I have hope that Einstein will be a good place for my DC, especially since it will be a relatively smaller school. DC is pretty average academically and will probably be well served with standard MCPS courses available at every high school. But BCC and Blair definitely offer a wider variety of courses, and there are public buses to both of these schools with stops near our home. Whitman would probably be too difficult, nor is it the environment I'd want for DC especially away from all their friends.

For kids who don't want STEM, Einstein is perfect.

I really hate for this rumor to get traction. My Einstein grad is in college for engineering, his good friend who also graduated from Einstein is studying chemistry in college, and a third friend is majoring in physics at UMD. This is flat-out incorrect, apparently driven by that one poster who is annoyed that Einstein doesn’t offer multivariable calculus.

Your Einstein grads had it different. The school admin has progressively decimated advanced classwork in recent years. I could be off by a year, but I think the first class for which there were no pre-IB courses are Seniors this year, no? That's just one example.

It's changed a lot in the past few years with reduced AP and advanced classes so if their child was a grad, that means they were under the former principal who has a very different point of view and made different decisions than the current one.

Seems to an outside spectator that the biggest problem with Einstein is not loosing the prestigious VAC program, loosing access to Wheaton engineering program, or small population size, but rather a troublesome principal.

I wouldn't say the principal is troublesome. He has his strengths and weaknesses, but the school doesn't care about the smarter kids nor some of the specialty programs they do offer. He'd also rather be liked than a strong leader standing up to the kids and setting limits, rules, etc. He focuses on the middle and lower performing kids, which is fine, but then doesn't encourage smarter kids to attend promising their needs will be met when they aren't.

The arts are what draws students to the school, but the classes are also very limited due to staffing.

Einstein is overcrowded now. It needs a reduction and get rid of the portables but the issue with that will be reduced classes with reduce staffing and what will be cut as the offerings are so limited now.

Its a good school, mostly great teachers and staff, and has lots of strenghts.

I always hear people talk about the VAC at Einstein. Is the financial academy a draw? I know one student who's going there mainly for that program.

VAC is a very small program. The academies are in name only.