Size & placement of regional magnet programs set to decimate non-host, non-rich schools

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Anonymous wrote:I just need to insert some facts for the benefit of people who are reading here that “Einstein has no STEM.” They have AP Calc and Stats, and 2-year sequences of IB Chem, IB Bio, and IB Physics. My Einstein grad is thriving in engineering in college. Get some perspective here.

Some kids would prefer more than that and two year sequences make it hard to take other classes. You need to get some perspective as not all kids want or nerf the same thing. Stem is more than math and science. IB is not equal in math. Some kids want engineering, computer science and more. Saying it was enough for my kid, so take what you get while other schools have much more is selfish. All our kids should have the same opportunities. Stem is very limited at Einstein. Einstein would be very disappointed. Wouldn’t it have been great if your engineering student had more access to engineering classes and ap physics which is a standard class for engineering?

No actually he was psyched for two years of IB physics. You sure have got a bee in your bonnet.

Yea, for them. Not everyone wants 2 years or can fit it in their schedule, and AP works best, which is a very different class. They can take away one IB class from each subject and offer AP.

I’ve yet to understand why people think AP classes “work best”, when quality IB classes should be more rigorous and require more critical thought and input from students.

They aren’t more rigorous in math. Look at the IB vs Calc curriculum. IB is best for humanities and those not wanting to go on to MVC and beyond, AP is best for STEM. It’s not about better or worse as they both serve their purpose but are very different in content. So, it depends on your end goal.

A good summary:

AI Overview

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AP Calculus BC focuses intensely on single-variable calculus (derivatives, integrals, series), acting as a fast-paced, theoretical college-level course. IB Math (specifically AA HL) is a two-year, broader curriculum covering calculus alongside deep algebra, vectors, and statistics, emphasizing conceptual application and investigation, generally considered more rigorous than BC.
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Key Comparisons:
Content Scope: AP Calc BC covers limits, derivatives, integrals, and advanced series. IB Math (AA HL) covers these plus substantial topics in algebraic structures, trigonometry, vectors, and complex numbers.
Pacing and Difficulty: AP Calc BC is fast-paced, focusing on mastery of calculus. IB Math HL is known for its depth, difficulty, and requirement for internal assessment (IA) projects.
Methodology: AP courses focus on theoretical, standardized exam preparation. IB encourages conceptual understanding, "math in real life," and in-depth investigations (IA).
Assessment: AP Calc BC is a single, heavily weighted exam. IB Math is assessed through two or three external exam papers plus an internal investigation.
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Which to Choose?
Take AP Calc BC if: You want to earn college credit (commonly 2 semesters), are focused on engineering/physics, and prefer a faster-paced focused calculus class.
Take IB Math HL if: You are pursuing the full IB Diploma, enjoy theoretical math, and prefer a broader, deeper mathematical foundation over two years.
Overlap: While Calc BC helps with the calculus portions of IB Math HL, they are not directly interchangeable, and IB HL generally goes beyond the scope of BC in areas other than series

So you used AI to prove my point that IB should be more rigorous. No one said it was a swap for an AP class but a more rigorous path.

Also, if should actually be better if you’re someone looking to major in Engineering/Physics/Comp Science/ or any major science that considers the logical and theoretical.

No, you aren’t understanding the differences. IB is not enough for MVC or above. IB math does not cover linear algebra or MVC nor do you want to rush all that.

No one ever said it did cover MVC. It covers through Calculus. Then if you want MVC math you take that course. Most kids in the district aren’t taking MVC.

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Anonymous wrote:I just need to insert some facts for the benefit of people who are reading here that “Einstein has no STEM.” They have AP Calc and Stats, and 2-year sequences of IB Chem, IB Bio, and IB Physics. My Einstein grad is thriving in engineering in college. Get some perspective here.

Some kids would prefer more than that and two year sequences make it hard to take other classes. You need to get some perspective as not all kids want or nerf the same thing. Stem is more than math and science. IB is not equal in math. Some kids want engineering, computer science and more. Saying it was enough for my kid, so take what you get while other schools have much more is selfish. All our kids should have the same opportunities. Stem is very limited at Einstein. Einstein would be very disappointed. Wouldn’t it have been great if your engineering student had more access to engineering classes and ap physics which is a standard class for engineering?

No actually he was psyched for two years of IB physics. You sure have got a bee in your bonnet.

Yea, for them. Not everyone wants 2 years or can fit it in their schedule, and AP works best, which is a very different class. They can take away one IB class from each subject and offer AP.

I’ve yet to understand why people think AP classes “work best”, when quality IB classes should be more rigorous and require more critical thought and input from students.

They aren’t more rigorous in math. Look at the IB vs Calc curriculum. IB is best for humanities and those not wanting to go on to MVC and beyond, AP is best for STEM. It’s not about better or worse as they both serve their purpose but are very different in content. So, it depends on your end goal.

A good summary:

AI Overview

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AP Calculus BC focuses intensely on single-variable calculus (derivatives, integrals, series), acting as a fast-paced, theoretical college-level course. IB Math (specifically AA HL) is a two-year, broader curriculum covering calculus alongside deep algebra, vectors, and statistics, emphasizing conceptual application and investigation, generally considered more rigorous than BC.
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Key Comparisons:
Content Scope: AP Calc BC covers limits, derivatives, integrals, and advanced series. IB Math (AA HL) covers these plus substantial topics in algebraic structures, trigonometry, vectors, and complex numbers.
Pacing and Difficulty: AP Calc BC is fast-paced, focusing on mastery of calculus. IB Math HL is known for its depth, difficulty, and requirement for internal assessment (IA) projects.
Methodology: AP courses focus on theoretical, standardized exam preparation. IB encourages conceptual understanding, "math in real life," and in-depth investigations (IA).
Assessment: AP Calc BC is a single, heavily weighted exam. IB Math is assessed through two or three external exam papers plus an internal investigation.
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Which to Choose?
Take AP Calc BC if: You want to earn college credit (commonly 2 semesters), are focused on engineering/physics, and prefer a faster-paced focused calculus class.
Take IB Math HL if: You are pursuing the full IB Diploma, enjoy theoretical math, and prefer a broader, deeper mathematical foundation over two years.
Overlap: While Calc BC helps with the calculus portions of IB Math HL, they are not directly interchangeable, and IB HL generally goes beyond the scope of BC in areas other than series

So you used AI to prove my point that IB should be more rigorous. No one said it was a swap for an AP class but a more rigorous path.

Also, if should actually be better if you’re someone looking to major in Engineering/Physics/Comp Science/ or any major science that considers the logical and theoretical.

No, you aren’t understanding the differences. IB is not enough for MVC or above. IB math does not cover linear algebra or MVC nor do you want to rush all that.

No one ever said it did cover MVC. It covers through Calculus. Then if you want MVC math you take that course. Most kids in the district aren’t taking MVC.

It doesn’t cover Calc the same way. Most kids aren’t taking it as it’s not offered or an option. You cannot do IB then MVC. If your kids just want IB, and not Calc then that’s fine but others want it and should have the option.

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Is there an explanation of the magnet changes? Are magnets hosted by one of the schools in each region now? And students from other schools in that region go to the host school for the program? Is there a list of host schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I just need to insert some facts for the benefit of people who are reading here that “Einstein has no STEM.” They have AP Calc and Stats, and 2-year sequences of IB Chem, IB Bio, and IB Physics. My Einstein grad is thriving in engineering in college. Get some perspective here.

Some kids would prefer more than that and two year sequences make it hard to take other classes. You need to get some perspective as not all kids want or nerf the same thing. Stem is more than math and science. IB is not equal in math. Some kids want engineering, computer science and more. Saying it was enough for my kid, so take what you get while other schools have much more is selfish. All our kids should have the same opportunities. Stem is very limited at Einstein. Einstein would be very disappointed. Wouldn’t it have been great if your engineering student had more access to engineering classes and ap physics which is a standard class for engineering?

No actually he was psyched for two years of IB physics. You sure have got a bee in your bonnet.

Yea, for them. Not everyone wants 2 years or can fit it in their schedule, and AP works best, which is a very different class. They can take away one IB class from each subject and offer AP.

I’ve yet to understand why people think AP classes “work best”, when quality IB classes should be more rigorous and require more critical thought and input from students.

They aren’t more rigorous in math. Look at the IB vs Calc curriculum. IB is best for humanities and those not wanting to go on to MVC and beyond, AP is best for STEM. It’s not about better or worse as they both serve their purpose but are very different in content. So, it depends on your end goal.

A good summary:

AI Overview

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AP Calculus BC focuses intensely on single-variable calculus (derivatives, integrals, series), acting as a fast-paced, theoretical college-level course. IB Math (specifically AA HL) is a two-year, broader curriculum covering calculus alongside deep algebra, vectors, and statistics, emphasizing conceptual application and investigation, generally considered more rigorous than BC.
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Key Comparisons:
Content Scope: AP Calc BC covers limits, derivatives, integrals, and advanced series. IB Math (AA HL) covers these plus substantial topics in algebraic structures, trigonometry, vectors, and complex numbers.
Pacing and Difficulty: AP Calc BC is fast-paced, focusing on mastery of calculus. IB Math HL is known for its depth, difficulty, and requirement for internal assessment (IA) projects.
Methodology: AP courses focus on theoretical, standardized exam preparation. IB encourages conceptual understanding, "math in real life," and in-depth investigations (IA).
Assessment: AP Calc BC is a single, heavily weighted exam. IB Math is assessed through two or three external exam papers plus an internal investigation.
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Which to Choose?
Take AP Calc BC if: You want to earn college credit (commonly 2 semesters), are focused on engineering/physics, and prefer a faster-paced focused calculus class.
Take IB Math HL if: You are pursuing the full IB Diploma, enjoy theoretical math, and prefer a broader, deeper mathematical foundation over two years.
Overlap: While Calc BC helps with the calculus portions of IB Math HL, they are not directly interchangeable, and IB HL generally goes beyond the scope of BC in areas other than series

So you used AI to prove my point that IB should be more rigorous. No one said it was a swap for an AP class but a more rigorous path.

Also, if should actually be better if you’re someone looking to major in Engineering/Physics/Comp Science/ or any major science that considers the logical and theoretical.

No, you aren’t understanding the differences. IB is not enough for MVC or above. IB math does not cover linear algebra or MVC nor do you want to rush all that.

No one ever said it did cover MVC. It covers through Calculus. Then if you want MVC math you take that course. Most kids in the district aren’t taking MVC.

It doesn’t cover Calc the same way. Most kids aren’t taking it as it’s not offered or an option. You cannot do IB then MVC. If your kids just want IB, and not Calc then that’s fine but others want it and should have the option.

The reality remains that MVC in high school is a gimmick and almost everyone who takes it would be better off being a year back on acceleration and spending more time studying material in-depth, but unfortunately they requires self-study because schools won't offer it, especially in middle school when tracking starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there an explanation of the magnet changes? Are magnets hosted by one of the schools in each region now? And students from other schools in that region go to the host school for the program? Is there a list of host schools?

Yes, that's right. Latest list is here: https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DQZPAX63BCF7/$file/Rec%20Secondary%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20260205%20PPT.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I just need to insert some facts for the benefit of people who are reading here that “Einstein has no STEM.” They have AP Calc and Stats, and 2-year sequences of IB Chem, IB Bio, and IB Physics. My Einstein grad is thriving in engineering in college. Get some perspective here.

Some kids would prefer more than that and two year sequences make it hard to take other classes. You need to get some perspective as not all kids want or nerf the same thing. Stem is more than math and science. IB is not equal in math. Some kids want engineering, computer science and more. Saying it was enough for my kid, so take what you get while other schools have much more is selfish. All our kids should have the same opportunities. Stem is very limited at Einstein. Einstein would be very disappointed. Wouldn’t it have been great if your engineering student had more access to engineering classes and ap physics which is a standard class for engineering?

No actually he was psyched for two years of IB physics. You sure have got a bee in your bonnet.

Yea, for them. Not everyone wants 2 years or can fit it in their schedule, and AP works best, which is a very different class. They can take away one IB class from each subject and offer AP.

I’ve yet to understand why people think AP classes “work best”, when quality IB classes should be more rigorous and require more critical thought and input from students.

They aren’t more rigorous in math. Look at the IB vs Calc curriculum. IB is best for humanities and those not wanting to go on to MVC and beyond, AP is best for STEM. It’s not about better or worse as they both serve their purpose but are very different in content. So, it depends on your end goal.

A good summary:

AI Overview

+8
AP Calculus BC focuses intensely on single-variable calculus (derivatives, integrals, series), acting as a fast-paced, theoretical college-level course. IB Math (specifically AA HL) is a two-year, broader curriculum covering calculus alongside deep algebra, vectors, and statistics, emphasizing conceptual application and investigation, generally considered more rigorous than BC.
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Key Comparisons:
Content Scope: AP Calc BC covers limits, derivatives, integrals, and advanced series. IB Math (AA HL) covers these plus substantial topics in algebraic structures, trigonometry, vectors, and complex numbers.
Pacing and Difficulty: AP Calc BC is fast-paced, focusing on mastery of calculus. IB Math HL is known for its depth, difficulty, and requirement for internal assessment (IA) projects.
Methodology: AP courses focus on theoretical, standardized exam preparation. IB encourages conceptual understanding, "math in real life," and in-depth investigations (IA).
Assessment: AP Calc BC is a single, heavily weighted exam. IB Math is assessed through two or three external exam papers plus an internal investigation.
Reddit
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Which to Choose?
Take AP Calc BC if: You want to earn college credit (commonly 2 semesters), are focused on engineering/physics, and prefer a faster-paced focused calculus class.
Take IB Math HL if: You are pursuing the full IB Diploma, enjoy theoretical math, and prefer a broader, deeper mathematical foundation over two years.
Overlap: While Calc BC helps with the calculus portions of IB Math HL, they are not directly interchangeable, and IB HL generally goes beyond the scope of BC in areas other than series

So you used AI to prove my point that IB should be more rigorous. No one said it was a swap for an AP class but a more rigorous path.

Also, if should actually be better if you’re someone looking to major in Engineering/Physics/Comp Science/ or any major science that considers the logical and theoretical.

No, you aren’t understanding the differences. IB is not enough for MVC or above. IB math does not cover linear algebra or MVC nor do you want to rush all that.

No one ever said it did cover MVC. It covers through Calculus. Then if you want MVC math you take that course. Most kids in the district aren’t taking MVC.

It doesn’t cover Calc the same way. Most kids aren’t taking it as it’s not offered or an option. You cannot do IB then MVC. If your kids just want IB, and not Calc then that’s fine but others want it and should have the option.

The reality remains that MVC in high school is a gimmick and almost everyone who takes it would be better off being a year back on acceleration and spending more time studying material in-depth, but unfortunately they requires self-study because schools won't offer it, especially in middle school when tracking starts.

They are going in depth. It’s not a gimmick. Your kids have the opportunity so why can’t ours? You are not allowed self study. In middle school, algebra can start in 6th which leaves junior or senior year for it.

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Oh pleeeeeeeease, can we just avoid focusing every topic on regional model to MVC??