Britney Spears DUI last night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

you have zero way of knowing, based simply on insta posts, whether she meets the definition or not.

I find it's the opposite. People see her cringy instagram dancing where she looks like a wreck, and declare she needs to be put under a conservatorship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

She would not have all that money if she'd been on her own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did Lindsay Lohan manage to get things together? Can Britney follow her playbook?

I don't think Lohan was mentally ill (which is the real hurdle here). She just making bad choice and in the spot light too much. She moved to Dubai and completely disconnected from her celebrity for years.

In the UAE, Lohan discovered something she had never experienced as a global celebrity: anonymity in public spaces. Strict privacy norms and limited paparazzi presence allowed her to live largely unobserved — a freedom she describes as transformative.

“That’s a big breath of fresh air,” she has said of life in Dubai, “having to not overthink everything you do every second.”

https://www.voguearabia.com/article/why-lindsay-lohan-chose-dubai

She became sober. That was the defining factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

you have zero way of knowing, based simply on insta posts, whether she meets the definition or not.

I am extremely confident that unable to have house herself or provide food or shelter would be evident from tabloids and/or social media.

Just because she has a roof over her head and food to eat doesn’t mean she doesn’t need a conservatorship. Stop enabling. Get real.

It does if she’s able to provide it for herself.

I know you want to hold on with an iron fist to the benchmark only being able to provide a home and food, but under California law there are more factors that can contribute to being deemed gravely disabled so either you’re ignorant, highly misinformed or disingenuous. I suspect you just plugged something into Chatgpt and posted it.

California law also carves out whether an individual is able to provide for their own personal safety. If someone is unable to safely exist in their community, or cause them serious bodily harm or they’re under severe mental disorder or substance abuse, they may be found to not be able to provide personal safety for themself

Britney may very well be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did Lindsay Lohan manage to get things together? Can Britney follow her playbook?

I don't think Lohan was mentally ill (which is the real hurdle here). She just making bad choice and in the spot light too much. She moved to Dubai and completely disconnected from her celebrity for years.

In the UAE, Lohan discovered something she had never experienced as a global celebrity: anonymity in public spaces. Strict privacy norms and limited paparazzi presence allowed her to live largely unobserved — a freedom she describes as transformative.

“That’s a big breath of fresh air,” she has said of life in Dubai, “having to not overthink everything you do every second.”

https://www.voguearabia.com/article/why-lindsay-lohan-chose-dubai

This. Lohan isn’t mentally ill; she just had terrible parents and once she grew up and finally got away from them and the US she made better relationship and life choices.

So, randomly, I had some friends in common with Lindsay back in the 00s, during the height of her partying. I was not a partier, but she hung out with people I went to high school with who I would sometimes hang out with when I was in LA. I wound up at many of the same parties and even wound up attending her birthday celebrations a couple times.

It is great to see how much she's matured and found peace. I'm not sure what I expected to become of her back then -- I remember thinking she was representative of what happens with a lot of child stars. Arrested development, narcissism, and substance abuse issues that are likely linked to an effort to escape and a desire to avoid being alone with one's thoughts. I also knew other LA kids with these same issues, but without the fame. It's hard.

But I think your distinction about mental illness is wrong, and I also tend to think Lindsay would agree. The truth is that childhood trauma causes a to of mental illness, including depression, anxiety, substance abuse, etc. There are even people who now theorize that a lot of bipolar disorder is actually C-PTSD, and can be treated with trauma-informed therapy. Not to lay everyone's problems at the feet of their parents, since everyone has agency, but there are huge statistical links between childhood trauma and mental illness. And there may in fact be a genetic component because those "terrible parents" may be terrible because they are struggling with the same genetic predispositions as their children.

I don't think it's as easy as saying that Lindsay didn't have mental illness but Britney does. Their situations are different. One major difference is that Britney was heavily sexualized and exploited by the people she worked with early in her career, including her parents. Compare the music videos Britney was doing in her teens to Lindsay's movies -- Parent Trap, Mean Girls, etc. Lindsay got to work with responsible professionals and play age appropriate characters. Britney didn't. Lindsay still had to deal with all the BS that comes with early fame and especially with being a young woman in the public eye, and it absolutely drove her kind of crazy for a time. But Britney's trauma was a lot deeper and her entire career was based on her exploitation. It's a much tougher situation to recover from.

I also think we downplay/overlook how intensely hounded by paparazzi she was, including when she was a brand new mom at, what, 21? The tabloids and the media were nasty and cruel when she was no longer their sweet “pop princess.”

Global superstardom, exploitation starting before she was ten (she was one of those Disney kids, if you’ll remember), the Justin fallout - he totally manipulated that situation to his benefit, by the way, and these conflating pressures at an age when most people haven’t even entered the real world.

She’s a great case study in why kids really don’t belong in show business. It’s more than the average adult’s psyche can handle - imaging having grown men speculate on your sexuality as a literal child. It was so gross.

[Anonymous]

It just seems like there is not a single person in her life that really cares about her. If she had any sort of real support network maybe she could move out of the spotlight and get sober and on a good medication regime. But when everyone around you just wants to exploit your celebrity, that seems basically impossible. It’s really sad her parents weren’t there for her — maybe that wouldn’t have been enough (see Nick Reiner whose parents were great) but at least she would have had a shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

you have zero way of knowing, based simply on insta posts, whether she meets the definition or not.

I am extremely confident that unable to have house herself or provide food or shelter would be evident from tabloids and/or social media.

Just because she has a roof over her head and food to eat doesn’t mean she doesn’t need a conservatorship. Stop enabling. Get real.

It does if she’s able to provide it for herself.

I know you want to hold on with an iron fist to the benchmark only being able to provide a home and food, but under California law there are more factors that can contribute to being deemed gravely disabled so either you’re ignorant, highly misinformed or disingenuous. I suspect you just plugged something into Chatgpt and posted it.

California law also carves out whether an individual is able to provide for their own personal safety. If someone is unable to safely exist in their community, or cause them serious bodily harm or they’re under severe mental disorder or substance abuse, they may be found to not be able to provide personal safety for themself

Britney may very well be there.

Are you joking? California’s standard is MORE rigorous than Virginia’s (as is expected). There, conservatorship is considered a “last resort” and less restrictive alternatives need to have failed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

you have zero way of knowing, based simply on insta posts, whether she meets the definition or not.

I am extremely confident that unable to have house herself or provide food or shelter would be evident from tabloids and/or social media.

Just because she has a roof over her head and food to eat doesn’t mean she doesn’t need a conservatorship. Stop enabling. Get real.

It does if she’s able to provide it for herself.

I know you want to hold on with an iron fist to the benchmark only being able to provide a home and food, but under California law there are more factors that can contribute to being deemed gravely disabled so either you’re ignorant, highly misinformed or disingenuous. I suspect you just plugged something into Chatgpt and posted it.

California law also carves out whether an individual is able to provide for their own personal safety. If someone is unable to safely exist in their community, or cause them serious bodily harm or they’re under severe mental disorder or substance abuse, they may be found to not be able to provide personal safety for themself

Britney may very well be there.

Are you joking? California’s standard is MORE rigorous than Virginia’s (as is expected). There, conservatorship is considered a “last resort” and less restrictive alternatives need to have failed.

I’m not joking. And why are you even mentioning Virginia. I am talking about California.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

DP- Britney had to sell the rights to her music because she ran out of money. She spent millions on private jets to Mexico over the last few years. It was very reckless spending and those mooching off her have no reason to stop it.

[Anonymous]

She is a legal adult. In the US it is legal to have unmedicated mental illness.

There is very little her family can do since she is an adult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

DP- Britney had to sell the rights to her music because she ran out of money. She spent millions on private jets to Mexico over the last few years. It was very reckless spending and those mooching off her have no reason to stop it.

Last time I checked, selling the rights to your music and spending the proceeds for fun doesn’t result in you losing your basic freedoms. Otherwise, like half the NFL retirees would be in conservatorships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of people with mental illness, including very serious mental illness, are not in conservatorships. Even rarer is a conservatorship in which the conservatee has significant income and assets and where the conservator requires the coservatee to generate millions in revenue.

Brittany is mentally ill. Only weirdos think otherwise. But being mentally ill, even significantly so, does not mean your right to make decisions about employment and medical care should be taken away.

Your rose colored glasses need cleaning. People who think like you are responsible for the mentally ill homeless sleeping wherever they choose and not receiving proper care

Uh no. Brittany makes tons of money and is not homeless. She does make weird and poor choices. That does not meet the standard for being placed in a conservatorship. People who cannot care for themselves and are living on the streets typically do meet the standard for conservatorship. In Virginia, the standard is “gravely disabled” and unable to provide for one’s basic needs like food, clothing, and shelter. Brittany plainly does not meet this standard.

DP- Britney had to sell the rights to her music because she ran out of money. She spent millions on private jets to Mexico over the last few years. It was very reckless spending and those mooching off her have no reason to stop it.

Last time I checked, selling the rights to your music and spending the proceeds for fun doesn’t result in you losing your basic freedoms. Otherwise, like half the NFL retirees would be in conservatorships.

No one said that. You said BS has a ton of money. She won't soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things that happen when you let child sex abuse run amuck for $500 Alex.

Generational mental illness in her family.

Agree. People who haven’t dealt with this don’t understand. My sibling has schizophrenia. We had awesome parents who are gone now, but it runs in our family. Didn’t know about it growing up. It’s devastating.

[Anonymous]

At one point she was worth $60 million and her entire family was mooching off of her. She can spend that money on whatever she wants without having to ask people for permission. People are allowed to make mistakes. I cannot excuse the DUI, but the extravagant spending - why not, she earned it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At one point she was worth $60 million and her entire family was mooching off of her. She can spend that money on whatever she wants without having to ask people for permission. People are allowed to make mistakes. I cannot excuse the DUI, but the extravagant spending - why not, she earned it.

Are you being intentionally obtuse? She has impulse control issues along with her addictions which is how she drained her funds. When she has nothing left, her "team" will desert her. Its a very sad situation.