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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How did Lindsay Lohan manage to get things together? Can Britney follow her playbook?[/quote]

I don't think Lohan was mentally ill (which is the real hurdle here).  She just making bad choice and in the spot light too much.  She moved to Dubai and completely disconnected from her celebrity for years.

[quote]In the UAE, Lohan discovered something she had never experienced as a global celebrity: anonymity in public spaces. Strict privacy norms and limited paparazzi presence allowed her to live largely unobserved — a freedom she describes as transformative.

“That’s a big breath of fresh air,” she has said of life in Dubai, “having to not overthink everything you do every second.”[/quote]

https://www.voguearabia.com/article/why-lindsay-lohan-chose-dubai[/quote]

This. Lohan isn’t mentally ill; she just had terrible parents and once she grew up and finally got away from them and the US she made better relationship and life choices. [/quote]

So, randomly, I had some friends in common with Lindsay back in the 00s, during the height of her partying. I was not a partier, but she hung out with people I went to high school with who I would sometimes hang out with when I was in LA. I wound up at many of the same parties and even wound up attending her birthday celebrations a couple times.

It is great to see how much she's matured and found peace. I'm not sure what I expected to become of her back then -- I remember thinking she was representative of what happens with a lot of child stars. Arrested development, narcissism, and substance abuse issues that are likely linked to an effort to escape and a desire to avoid being alone with one's thoughts. I also knew other LA kids with these same issues, but without the fame. It's hard.

But I think your distinction about mental illness is wrong, and I also tend to think Lindsay would agree. The truth is that childhood trauma causes a to of mental illness, including depression, anxiety, substance abuse, etc. There are even people who now theorize that a lot of bipolar disorder is actually C-PTSD, and can be treated with trauma-informed therapy. Not to lay everyone's problems at the feet of their parents, since everyone has agency, but there are huge statistical links between childhood trauma and mental illness. And there may in fact be a genetic component because those "terrible parents" may be terrible because they are struggling with the same genetic predispositions as their children.

I don't think it's as easy as saying that Lindsay didn't have mental illness but Britney does. Their situations are different. One major difference is that Britney was heavily sexualized and exploited by the people she worked with early in her career, including her parents. Compare the music videos Britney was doing in her teens to Lindsay's movies -- Parent Trap, Mean Girls, etc. Lindsay got to work with responsible professionals and play age appropriate characters. Britney didn't. Lindsay still had to deal with all the BS that comes with early fame and especially with being a young woman in the public eye, and it absolutely drove her kind of crazy for a time. But Britney's trauma was a lot deeper and her entire career was based on her exploitation. It's a much tougher situation to recover from.[/quote]

I also think we downplay/overlook how intensely hounded by paparazzi she was, including when she was a brand new mom at, what, 21? The tabloids and the media were nasty and cruel when she was no longer their sweet “pop princess.”

Global superstardom, exploitation starting before she was ten (she was one of those Disney kids, if you’ll remember), the Justin fallout - he totally manipulated that situation to his benefit, by the way, and these conflating pressures at an age when most people haven’t even entered the real world.

She’s a great case study in why kids really don’t belong in show business.  It’s more than the average adult’s psyche can handle - imaging having grown men speculate on your sexuality as a literal child. It was so gross. [/quote]

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