Democracy is overrated - China won

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Anonymous wrote:What most people refuse to recognize is this is not the China of 20 years ago. They have a huge domestic market now.

It is sort of like the US at the turn of the century. There is more than enough consumers in China to support their domestic companies. China is at the point where they do not need the US and there is little the US can do about it.

Look at the world new car market. China’s new car market is 40% of the world’s new car market and has over 350 domestic firms account 68% of the sale in 2025.

The US new car market is 18% and US car manufacturers account for 30% of sales. US car manufacturers are basically an afterthought outside the US.

Okay. Hip hip hooray Bully for China, yay, go team?

The interesting thing is they are doing it without venture capitalism. This means they can employ more engineers, developers and designers because there is a lot less debt and the money is not taken by the private equity firms. They would arrest and put people on trial if a firm did what American Industrial Partners(PE firm) did.

Summary from AI
“ Private equity firm American Industrial Partners (AIP) is facing lawsuits and congressional scrutiny for allegedly driving up fire truck prices and causing massive delivery delays. The firm created the REV Group, which, along with other manufacturers, is accused of controlling up to 80% of the market, doubling prices to over $1 million for pumpers and $2 million for ladders”

Wonder how many people died because of this.

There's a lot of death to go around.

China’s building boom emerges as a hidden driver of air-pollution deaths
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1115812

China’s construction boom linked to 1.1 million premature deaths in a single year
https://www.earth.com/news/chinas-construction-boom-linked-to-1-1-million-premature-deaths-in-a-single-year/

Evaluating Building Construction Safety Performance in Different Regions in China
https://www.mdpi.com/2075-5309/13/7/1845

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks to Trump and his supporters, China has won.

Not Biden?

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to Trump and his supporters, China has won.

Not Biden?

DP. Biden didn't help, but at least he tried to balance green energy with domestic production/jobs. Trump, on the other hand, just wants his oil cronies to get rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to Trump and his supporters, China has won.

Not Biden?

DP. Biden didn't help, but at least he tried to balance green energy with domestic production/jobs. Trump, on the other hand, just wants his oil cronies to get rich.

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Anonymous wrote:China's nominal GDP per capita in 2024 was $13,300.

Do you enjoy being poor, OP?

So stupid. Their cars, roads, and taxi, bus, train, and plane infrastructure is way better. I was there in the late 90s and in 30 years they have literally transformed dozens of cities way more populated and advanced than American ones. They have a surplus of educated citizens so they have to export them to the rest of the world. These people literally become a global network of trade and services. They've learned from the Japanese and Korean economic policies. As seen in other Asian economic miracles, democracy will come later.

Their people flee their country and don't want to go back to live there. How very strange -- you'd think it would be the opposite, given that the homeland is a paragon of virtues.

Where exactly are your stats on that? You sound racist. The poor people come here to work and live just like 150 other countries in the world. But so many educated Chinese on student visas go back to China. I hope you're not confusing with the Taiwan(#1)ese or Hong Kongers.

Asians will dominate the future world because they are more hard working, their citizens are smarter, and the governments plan ahead better. In several Asian countries, entirely new cities have been created almost overnight because there was a need for them. How many brand new cities have been created in America in the past 100 years?


China offers more support to returning overseas students as influx grows
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3336586/china-offers-more-support-returning-overseas-students-influx-grows

China has launched a national-level service platform to help returning overseas students find work and start businesses, as the country steps up its efforts to attract talent and the number of returnees surges.

The Ministry of Education has partnered with 50 organisations to provide returnees with entrepreneurial mentors and match them directly with local government and corporate needs.

Talk about propaganda. —DP

“ The number of people from China seeking asylum worldwide has risen sharply in the past decade, according to the U.N.”
https://projects.voanews.com/china-exodus/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Office%20of%20the%20United,*%20**Canada's%20Prince%20Edward%20Island**%20*%20**Ecuador**

“In 2023, more than 37,000 Chinese immigrants were detained for attempting to enter the United States illegally, more than the past 10 years combined.”
https://uscnpm.org/analysis/chinese-immigration-to-the-united-states-past-present-and-future/#:~:text=Chinese%2520citizens%2520struggling%2520to%2520find,things%2520are%2520going%2520in%2520China.%E2%80%9D

There’s a lot more data out there for your edification.

The Chinese population is a billion. You're talking about thousands. And those are specific populations. Economic growth doesn't come without sacrifices and uneven growth. Show me an example where that wasn't true. Your examples and your fake horror are ridiculous. White people still haven't given blacks complete freedom in America. We're not even talking about the 250 years of free labor (along with the 75 years of de facto very cheap labor) that built the American economy. This is 2026. There are still: Economic policies that oppress blacks. Education policies that oppress blacks. Uneven application of laws that oppress blacks. Drugs and cigarettes being pushed into black neighborhoods. etc etc. Ironically, if black people hadn't made the American economy the strongest in the world, many of them would probably have migrated to England or whatever other economy was dominant.

You sure like to talk s--t about other countries, but when it comes to your own, it's all excuses, excuses, excuses. Pathetic.

What is "my own" you fkn goon?

Learn grammar.

other countries <-- your own

And which is "my own"? You made an accusation but your English is terrible; so I'd just like a one or two word response so I know how to answer. Even that stupid arrow makes no sense.

If you don't understand English, fair enough. Best wishes.

Thought so. You fkn racist pig. Your world is slowly over. Too bad for your kids.

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If you don't understand English, fair enough. Best wishes.

Anonymous wrote:Thought so. You fkn racist pig. Your world is slowly over. Too bad for your kids.

Just leaving this up there quietly as an instructional piece. When people tell you who they are, believe them.

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China and even Japan and Korea have horrible work culture.

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Anonymous wrote:I will say China for all its faults has changed the world with solar power, electrifying the economy and EVs.

Many experts are predicting almost limitless, cheap electric and oil demand falling. Overall this good for the world allowing countries to secure their domestic energy supplies.

US should embrace this.

LOL. The US (ergo, Trump) gave China the solar power industry on a silver platter because he's a total inept businessman. However, in recent decades, China has mostly been a copier of invention rather than an inventor in its sown right, so we'll see what happens. Maybe PP is correct that all the Chinese brain talent will return.

You are working under false assumption. The Chinese have moved beyond “copying” and now are industrial leads in many fields. The battery, EV, drones and electrification revolution that is going on in China is the equivalent to the moon landings in term of spin off technology. There are a lot of articles about hedge funds visiting China and immediately pulling all their investments out of certain segments of the market. They came to the conclusion the Chinese are just too far ahead of anything in the west.

Yes it really is an outdated assumption that the a Chinese just copy others. They did so because that is the fastest way to catch up and they don't believe in following foreign laws (and western countries got to get ahead by pillaging others, so who has the moral high ground here?). But once they catch up, they keep innovating.

[Anonymous]

Okay. Yay rah China. And, what? You want a cookie?

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Anonymous wrote:China's nominal GDP per capita in 2024 was $13,300.

Do you enjoy being poor, OP?

So stupid. Their cars, roads, and taxi, bus, train, and plane infrastructure is way better. I was there in the late 90s and in 30 years they have literally transformed dozens of cities way more populated and advanced than American ones. They have a surplus of educated citizens so they have to export them to the rest of the world. These people literally become a global network of trade and services. They've learned from the Japanese and Korean economic policies. As seen in other Asian economic miracles, democracy will come later.

Their people flee their country and don't want to go back to live there. How very strange -- you'd think it would be the opposite, given that the homeland is a paragon of virtues.

Where exactly are your stats on that? You sound racist. The poor people come here to work and live just like 150 other countries in the world. But so many educated Chinese on student visas go back to China. I hope you're not confusing with the Taiwan(#1)ese or Hong Kongers.

Asians will dominate the future world because they are more hard working, their citizens are smarter, and the governments plan ahead better. In several Asian countries, entirely new cities have been created almost overnight because there was a need for them. How many brand new cities have been created in America in the past 100 years?


China offers more support to returning overseas students as influx grows
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3336586/china-offers-more-support-returning-overseas-students-influx-grows

China has launched a national-level service platform to help returning overseas students find work and start businesses, as the country steps up its efforts to attract talent and the number of returnees surges.

The Ministry of Education has partnered with 50 organisations to provide returnees with entrepreneurial mentors and match them directly with local government and corporate needs.

Talk about propaganda. —DP

“ The number of people from China seeking asylum worldwide has risen sharply in the past decade, according to the U.N.”
https://projects.voanews.com/china-exodus/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20Office%20of%20the%20United,*%20**Canada's%20Prince%20Edward%20Island**%20*%20**Ecuador**

“In 2023, more than 37,000 Chinese immigrants were detained for attempting to enter the United States illegally, more than the past 10 years combined.”
https://uscnpm.org/analysis/chinese-immigration-to-the-united-states-past-present-and-future/#:~:text=Chinese%2520citizens%2520struggling%2520to%2520find,things%2520are%2520going%2520in%2520China.%E2%80%9D

There’s a lot more data out there for your edification.

The Chinese population is a billion. You're talking about thousands. And those are specific populations. Economic growth doesn't come without sacrifices and uneven growth. Show me an example where that wasn't true. Your examples and your fake horror are ridiculous. White people still haven't given blacks complete freedom in America. We're not even talking about the 250 years of free labor (along with the 75 years of de facto very cheap labor) that built the American economy. This is 2026. There are still: Economic policies that oppress blacks. Education policies that oppress blacks. Uneven application of laws that oppress blacks. Drugs and cigarettes being pushed into black neighborhoods. etc etc. Ironically, if black people hadn't made the American economy the strongest in the world, many of them would probably have migrated to England or whatever other economy was dominant.

You sure like to talk s--t about other countries, but when it comes to your own, it's all excuses, excuses, excuses. Pathetic.

What is "my own" you fkn goon?

Learn grammar.

other countries <-- your own

And which is "my own"? You made an accusation but your English is terrible; so I'd just like a one or two word response so I know how to answer. Even that stupid arrow makes no sense.

If you don't understand English, fair enough. Best wishes.

Thought so. You fkn racist pig. Your world is slowly over. Too bad for your kids.

Hon, you're gonna have a stroke. Take a break. Get out and get some fresh air.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to Trump and his supporters, China has won.

China won a lot before Trump. White immigrants and all the immigrants to the US are basically trashy people who couldn’t hack it in their own countries. China and Japan have much more elite, high IQ populations and always have. It’s over for the US.

It’s why the trashy people in the US are so scared of H1B1 visa holders from Asia. They know they’re superior and smarter and are very insecure about competing with them.

The H1B definitely aren’t superior or smarter. They are simply more willing to work like desk slaves.
One of them is in my neighborhood. When us and all of my other neighbors were out shoveling the snowcrete, he did none of it. Apparently his Desk Worker syndrome was so bad he couldn’t manage it.

[Anonymous]

You could make the US much safer by locking up and throwing away the key of the few hundred habitual offenders who make every urban area instantly unsafe. Seemingly every time there is some high profile killing of a random innocent bystander on a street, the perpetrator is a career criminal with a rap sheet a mile long. But they’re allowed to roam free because reasons. Somehow we can’t differentiate between a person who caught a charge for getting in a bar fight once vs. a person who’s been in and out of jail for violent offenses since before Covid.

We have private equity vampires that are terrible for the average American because we have linked retirement to the stock market. Stocks gotta keep going up and up or else people lose their retirement savings. Increase Social Security a lot, raise taxes and the amount of income that’s subject to social security taxes to pay for it. People could stop contributing to 401k’s and the average person would likely see the same take home pay.

Bring heavy and technical manufacturing back to the US. We don’t need to be making plastic doo dads or cheap clothes. But cars, steel, medical equipment, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You could make the US much safer by locking up and throwing away the key of the few hundred habitual offenders who make every urban area instantly unsafe. Seemingly every time there is some high profile killing of a random innocent bystander on a street, the perpetrator is a career criminal with a rap sheet a mile long. But they’re allowed to roam free because reasons. Somehow we can’t differentiate between a person who caught a charge for getting in a bar fight once vs. a person who’s been in and out of jail for violent offenses since before Covid.

We have private equity vampires that are terrible for the average American because we have linked retirement to the stock market. Stocks gotta keep going up and up or else people lose their retirement savings. Increase Social Security a lot, raise taxes and the amount of income that’s subject to social security taxes to pay for it. People could stop contributing to 401k’s and the average person would likely see the same take home pay.

Bring heavy and technical manufacturing back to the US. We don’t need to be making plastic doo dads or cheap clothes. But cars, steel, medical equipment, yes.

lol 90% of the jobs in this country are service sector jobs. The US runs a huge surplus in the service sector. Chinese factories are automated to the point that US manufacturers when they visit ask where are the people. There just is not the demand in the US for new factories to build cars or produce steel.

Look what Biden did. Biden’s jobs program had the US and foreign car manufacturers investing in factories for EVs and batteries. He invested about 23 billion in tax incentives and discounts on EVs. The private sector invested 144 billion to build factories. Now all that is being written off and the factories are closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay. Yay rah China. And, what? You want a cookie?

Well, if China becomes the dominant power, Europeans and white Americans will, for the first time in their individual and collective memories, know what it feels like to be second class citizens on the world stage. Imagine the world with the yuan as the reserve currency and Chinese as the lingua franca. Interesting times indeed. As much as I love America, part of me would love to see this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay. Yay rah China. And, what? You want a cookie?

Well, if China becomes the dominant power, Europeans and white Americans will, for the first time in their individual and collective memories, know what it feels like to be second class citizens on the world stage. Imagine the world with the yuan as the reserve currency and Chinese as the lingua franca. Interesting times indeed. As much as I love America, part of me would love to see this.

Okay.

Were there other masturbatory fantasies you felt compelled to share, or was that the only one? Did you need to go back over it again?