Birthright Citizenship

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Anonymous wrote:DHS has announced it is terminating Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for more than half a million Haitians in the U.S., arguing that conditions in Haiti have improved enough for them to return home, and allowing the Haitians to remain is contrary to the national interest of the U.S.

TPS for these Haitians will expire on 8/3/2025 and the termination will take effect on 9/2/2025, effectively giving the Haitians a little more than 2 months to leave the country or find another form of relief or legal status.

DHS statement:

“This decision restores integrity in our immigration system and ensures that Temporary Protective Status is actually temporary,” said a DHS spokesperson. “The environmental situation in Haiti has improved enough that it is safe for Haitian citizens to return home. We encourage these individuals to take advantage of the Department’s resources in returning to Haiti, which can be arranged through the CBP Home app. Haitian nationals may pursue lawful status through other immigration benefit requests, if eligible.”


Well, so much for that town in Ohio. I feel bad for that business owner.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


Let's start with Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka and Barron
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


I’m very happy that universal injunctions are out, but I don’t see Trump’s EO standing on the merits.
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Anonymous wrote:There is zero valid nor practical nor helpful reason for it to exist in America today.

Only invalid, impractical, convoluted reasons to keep it.


Same with 2A. Let it rip then.


Are the foreigners and their millions on the family sponsor list bringing guns?!

Because until we know WTf is IN our country and they are all here legally, I’ll be keeping our guns. Deal?


Pp’s point is that republicans are effectively conceding that constitutional amendments can and should be repealed. But they defend the 2A as their constitutional right and the reason why they can have all the guns they want with zero accountability.

In other words, they are shooting themselves in the foot. No pun intended.


When has any Republican denied that there is a constitutional process to repeal amendments? Do you think we don’t remember prohibition?


Wait, you remember prohibition? How old are you??

Anyhoo…have you somehow missed all your fellow gun nuts running around rambling about their 2A rights?

Yes, I do assume you all *learned* about prohibition, etc. and the fact that our founding fathers intended the constitution to be a living, changing document so that the dead would not rule over the living. Which is why it’s a head-scratcher when you all talk like the 2A is untouchable. But that’s over now! Thanks Trump!


Stop deflecting


No no. This is not a deflection. I’m not sure you understand what a deflection is. The thing that happened today can be applied to other amendments, such as the 2A. Republicans probably should have thought this through, but oh well!


The government has already infringed on the 2A

Now it can infringe on birthright citizenship


Every right has limits, inlcuding voting (age) speech (libel) and guns. How do you "infringe" on a birthright citizenship?


By limiting to the children of legal immigrants
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


Being a POS isn’t something you should d brag about, but you do you, Queen.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


I’m very happy that universal injunctions are out, but I don’t see Trump’s EO standing on the merits.


Same here.

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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


Being a POS isn’t something you should d brag about, but you do you, Queen.


DP

Name calling isn’t an argument and not worthy of this discussion.
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Anonymous wrote:DHS has announced it is terminating Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for more than half a million Haitians in the U.S., arguing that conditions in Haiti have improved enough for them to return home, and allowing the Haitians to remain is contrary to the national interest of the U.S.

TPS for these Haitians will expire on 8/3/2025 and the termination will take effect on 9/2/2025, effectively giving the Haitians a little more than 2 months to leave the country or find another form of relief or legal status.

DHS statement:

“This decision restores integrity in our immigration system and ensures that Temporary Protective Status is actually temporary,” said a DHS spokesperson. “The environmental situation in Haiti has improved enough that it is safe for Haitian citizens to return home. We encourage these individuals to take advantage of the Department’s resources in returning to Haiti, which can be arranged through the CBP Home app. Haitian nationals may pursue lawful status through other immigration benefit requests, if eligible.”


I love how Trump plays favorites. Abruptly end TPS for Haitians whose country is STILL a basket case but leaves Salvadoreans untouched because he's buds with Bukele. Compare and contrast.

Haiti is severely unstable, with gangs controlling approximately 85% of Port-au-Prince and the country under an ongoing state of emergency. The UN reported over 5,600 deaths due to gang violence in 2024, including targeted killings and a 1,000% increase in sexual violence against children. Over one million people are displaced, and the country lacks elected representatives since 2023, with no elections held since 2016. The U.N. has explicitly called for countries to refrain from deporting people to Haiti due to these dangerous conditions.

El Salvador was granted TPS in 2001 following earthquakes, with extensions due to ongoing violence and economic issues. By 2018, the Trump administration argued that conditions had improved enough to end TPS, but courts disagreed, citing continued gang violence and economic stagnation. Surely the country has recovered from the 2001 earthquakes. Supposedly the violence fueled by gangs is now minimal thanks to Bukele's hard line on gang members and their imprisonment in CECOT. And, when comparing the Haitian to the Salvadoran economy, Haiti’s poverty rate (58.7%, 20% extreme) is significantly higher than El Salvador’s (27.2–30.3%, 8.8–9.3% extreme) in 2023. Not to mention that the state dept recently upgraded El Salvador in safety rankings to Level 1: Exercise Normal Precautions, the safest travel advisory level, citing a significant reduction in gang activity and violent crime over the past three years. Whereas Haiti is at 4: Do Not Travel.






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Class action suits incoming.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


I’m very happy that universal injunctions are out, but I don’t see Trump’s EO standing on the merits.


It doesn't - which is why this was the stupidest vehicle to narrow national injunctions. The Supremes took the bait. How dumb of them. And thoughtless.

This country has done dumb things in the past, and fixed them. Here is another dumb thing.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


Being a POS isn’t something you should d brag about, but you do you, Queen.


DP

Name calling isn’t an argument and not worthy of this discussion.


There no discussion needed about facts. They stand on their own, that’s their beauty.
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Anonymous wrote:I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration


True

Time for summer break. Go America!
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Anonymous wrote:Class action suits incoming.


Yes, round up all those pregnant illegals, tourists and foreign students and file those lawsuits demanding citizenship and benies for their anchor babies.
Their big back door America plans are on the line.

Yesh!
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Anonymous wrote:If parents come lawfully, kid gets birth right citizenship. If they staying unlawfully or just traveled on visa to have an anchor birth, kids don't get birth right citizenship. Why is this complicated?


No.

Come here lawfully (not incl phony asylum cases, not visa overstayers, not greencard weddings)

Kid gets parent citizenship

Apply of USA citizenship after five years of good standing (parents, kid, whomever.)


So everyone living in the US must now apply for citizenship including you and your kids?

Such a great question, thanks for not reading anything about it ahead of time.

Why yes, it absolutely goes retroactively forever and ever!
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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t actually rule on the content of the executive order. It was more that they ruled that District courts couldn’t make national injunctions. So, everyone one has to file their own lawsuit. If the administration chooses not to fight on appeal if they lose, that one person gets citizenship. As a result, everyone born in U.S. with an undocumented person as their mother will have to sue for citizenship. If they don’t sue, they don’t get it. At least, that is my understanding. I’ll be happy to hear other opinions. Nice way to clog up the courts.

Red state judges are just as guilty of trying to establish ruling for the entire country.


And have for a long time and not one peep out of The Federalists when they do it.


In 2022, Kagan spoke at Northwestern and said it isn't right that a district judge could issue a nationwide injunction against the president. But now she voted to uphold district judges' nationwide injunctions.

Both sides only care about their partisan beliefs.


I remember that.

Yup, disappointed to see her vote on something this procedural as a politician not a scotus.
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