Birthright Citizenship

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Anonymous wrote:No one should be granted citizenship at birth in the U.S. Instead we will have a Hunger Games style competition for citizenship with all the kids in the US.

Or fill out the paperwork, get your medical tests, prove you’re solvent, and get a real U.S. sponsor submitted too.

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Anonymous wrote:an immigrant advocate group already filed an amended complaint seeking class action relief in its birthright citizenship case in federal court in Maryland

Yes, but Federal District Judges can no longer issue universal injunction. Since suits are pending in only 22 states, the Executive Order will take effect in the other 28 states until the issue is finally decided on the merits by the Supreme Court. It’s going to be messy until then. Buckle up!

No mas anchor bebes?!

Uh oh. Who’s gonna tell Barron, Don Jr, Ivanka, and Eric?

Educated literate ones don’t count. Net positive

Clearly, you are NOT one of the "educated, literate ones."

My former eye surgeon immigrated to the US when he was in high school. He now heads a major medical center. He graduated from Harvard Medical School. His kids are both Ivy League graduates. He went to community college. His parents picked crops.

Your ignorance is sickening PP.

Can’t tell what you’re saying. He and his parents legally or illegally immigrated her decades ago? Were they literate and schooled in their homeland beforehand?

[Anonymous]

If parents come lawfully, kid gets birth right citizenship. If they staying unlawfully or just traveled on visa to have an anchor birth, kids don't get birth right citizenship. Why is this complicated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If parents come lawfully, kid gets birth right citizenship. If they staying unlawfully or just traveled on visa to have an anchor birth, kids don't get birth right citizenship. Why is this complicated?

No.

Come here lawfully (not incl phony asylum cases, not visa overstayers, not greencard weddings)

Kid gets parent citizenship

Apply of USA citizenship after five years of good standing (parents, kid, whomever.)

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Anonymous wrote:If parents come lawfully, kid gets birth right citizenship. If they staying unlawfully or just traveled on visa to have an anchor birth, kids don't get birth right citizenship. Why is this complicated?

No.

Come here lawfully (not incl phony asylum cases, not visa overstayers, not greencard weddings)

Kid gets parent citizenship

Apply for USA citizenship after five years of good standing (parents, kid, whomever.)

This.

This stops all the game playing - student visa baby train, phony asylum cases, birth tourism, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:If parents come lawfully, kid gets birth right citizenship. If they staying unlawfully or just traveled on visa to have an anchor birth, kids don't get birth right citizenship. Why is this complicated?

No.

Come here lawfully (not incl phony asylum cases, not visa overstayers, not greencard weddings)

Kid gets parent citizenship

Apply of USA citizenship after five years of good standing (parents, kid, whomever.)

So everyone living in the US must now apply for citizenship including you and your kids?

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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t actually rule on the content of the executive order. It was more that they ruled that District courts couldn’t make national injunctions. So, everyone one has to file their own lawsuit. If the administration chooses not to fight on appeal if they lose, that one person gets citizenship. As a result, everyone born in U.S. with an undocumented person as their mother will have to sue for citizenship. If they don’t sue, they don’t get it. At least, that is my understanding. I’ll be happy to hear other opinions. Nice way to clog up the courts.

Red state judges are just as guilty of trying to establish ruling for the entire country.

And have for a long time and not one peep out of The Federalists when they do it.

In 2022, Kagan spoke at Northwestern and said it isn't right that a district judge could issue a nationwide injunction against the president. But now she voted to uphold district judges' nationwide injunctions.

Both sides only care about their partisan beliefs.

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This does seem to be open ended. How many generations do we go back? Did my great great great grandparents come here legally? How does one prove that in a court of law that is over seen by a radical supreme Court?

If you can take birth rights away from a first generation person you certainly can take it away from an 8th generation person.

Once you cross the Rubicon of taking birth rights away there is nothing stopping republicans from stripping birth rights from any US citizen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are officially a fascist dictatorship. Look at Hungary. Viktor Orban followed the exact same playbook. First, take over the Supreme Court. Check. Then attack the news media. Check. Then the lawyers, intellectuals, teachers, universities, check, check, check, check.

This is unconstitutional, and yet the SCOTUS decides it can write us a new constitution.

This is grim, indeed.

It’s a coup d'état.

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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t actually rule on the content of the executive order. It was more that they ruled that District courts couldn’t make national injunctions. So, everyone one has to file their own lawsuit. If the administration chooses not to fight on appeal if they lose, that one person gets citizenship. As a result, everyone born in U.S. with an undocumented person as their mother will have to sue for citizenship. If they don’t sue, they don’t get it. At least, that is my understanding. I’ll be happy to hear other opinions. Nice way to clog up the courts.

Red state judges are just as guilty of trying to establish ruling for the entire country.

And have for a long time and not one peep out of The Federalists when they do it.

In 2022, Kagan spoke at Northwestern and said it isn't right that a district judge could issue a nationwide injunction against the president. But now she voted to uphold district judges' nationwide injunctions.

Both sides only care about their partisan beliefs.

Nothing matters anymore. Trump has sh*t on the rule of law. It doesn’t matter what Kagan or anyone says anymore. Trump, like Cartman, does what he wants.

[Anonymous]

I hope you people realize the the Court DID NOT RULE ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP! The Court ruled on universal injunctions. I believe that Trump's EO is valid in 28 states right now because no one has challenged it there yet. Otherwise, 1 or more of the other cases where the EO was challenged will wind its way through the courts.

But think of the howls MAGA would have emitted if they had had to bring 677 lawsuits to enjoin Biden from using the HEROES Act as a mechanism for loan forgiveness.

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero valid nor practical nor helpful reason for it to exist in America today.

Only invalid, impractical, convoluted reasons to keep it.

Same with 2A. Let it rip then.

Are the foreigners and their millions on the family sponsor list bringing guns?!

Because until we know WTf is IN our country and they are all here legally, I’ll be keeping our guns. Deal?

Pp’s point is that republicans are effectively conceding that constitutional amendments can and should be repealed. But they defend the 2A as their constitutional right and the reason why they can have all the guns they want with zero accountability.

In other words, they are shooting themselves in the foot. No pun intended.

When has any Republican denied that there is a constitutional process to repeal amendments? Do you think we don’t remember prohibition?

Wait, you remember prohibition? How old are you??

Anyhoo…have you somehow missed all your fellow gun nuts running around rambling about their 2A rights?

Yes, I do assume you all *learned* about prohibition, etc. and the fact that our founding fathers intended the constitution to be a living, changing document so that the dead would not rule over the living. Which is why it’s a head-scratcher when you all talk like the 2A is untouchable. But that’s over now! Thanks Trump!

Stop deflecting

No no. This is not a deflection. I’m not sure you understand what a deflection is. The thing that happened today can be applied to other amendments, such as the 2A. Republicans probably should have thought this through, but oh well!

The government has already infringed on the 2A

Now it can infringe on birthright citizenship

Every right has limits, inlcuding voting (age) speech (libel) and guns. How do you "infringe" on a birthright citizenship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope you people realize the the Court DID NOT RULE ON BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP! The Court ruled on universal injunctions. I believe that Trump's EO is valid in 28 states right now because no one has challenged it there yet. Otherwise, 1 or more of the other cases where the EO was challenged will wind its way through the courts.

But think of the howls MAGA would have emitted if they had had to bring 677 lawsuits to enjoin Biden from using the HEROES Act as a mechanism for loan forgiveness.

It's supposed to be 94.

[Anonymous]

DHS has announced it is terminating Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for more than half a million Haitians in the U.S., arguing that conditions in Haiti have improved enough for them to return home, and allowing the Haitians to remain is contrary to the national interest of the U.S.

TPS for these Haitians will expire on 8/3/2025 and the termination will take effect on 9/2/2025, effectively giving the Haitians a little more than 2 months to leave the country or find another form of relief or legal status.

DHS statement:

“This decision restores integrity in our immigration system and ensures that Temporary Protective Status is actually temporary,” said a DHS spokesperson. “The environmental situation in Haiti has improved enough that it is safe for Haitian citizens to return home. We encourage these individuals to take advantage of the Department’s resources in returning to Haiti, which can be arranged through the CBP Home app. Haitian nationals may pursue lawful status through other immigration benefit requests, if eligible.”

[Anonymous]

I love all these decisions today. Finally people are being reminded that the T in TPS stands for Temporary.

Also, glad that birthright citizenship may be gone too. There have been a lot of anchor babies and birth tourisms. Hope this helps cut down illegal immigration