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Anonymous wrote:Driving from Tysons to Arlington for a 5:15 AM Gold 1 practice is a bit different than driving from Arlington to Tysons for a 3:30 PM practice when it comes to logistics and time in the car. Hard to say what the final impacts will be but I have to imagine some of the large contingent of 14 year olds about to age up out of Silver 1 are going to be looking at alternative options.

The tentative schedule I’ve seen for Gold 2 is M-F 5:00am - 6:45am at TY and S 6:00-8:00am at MU. I don’t know about dryland. So for the MU folks going to TY at 5:00 will be ok, but going home might not be.

Have you seen a tentative scheduled for Gold 1 at MU?

You don’t seem to understand that no one from MU is willing to drive to Tysons. Especially when being told that their kids don’t matter to NCAP

The poster literally asked about the Gold 1 schedule, and since Gold 1 is staying at MU no one that needs the Gold 1 schedule is driving to Tysons. Take a breath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Driving from Tysons to Arlington for a 5:15 AM Gold 1 practice is a bit different than driving from Arlington to Tysons for a 3:30 PM practice when it comes to logistics and time in the car. Hard to say what the final impacts will be but I have to imagine some of the large contingent of 14 year olds about to age up out of Silver 1 are going to be looking at alternative options.

The tentative schedule I’ve seen for Gold 2 is M-F 5:00am - 6:45am at TY and S 6:00-8:00am at MU. I don’t know about dryland. So for the MU folks going to TY at 5:00 will be ok, but going home might not be.

Have you seen a tentative scheduled for Gold 1 at MU?

You don’t seem to understand that no one from MU is willing to drive to Tysons. Especially when being told that their kids don’t matter to NCAP

The poster literally asked about the Gold 1 schedule, and since Gold 1 is staying at MU no one that needs the Gold 1 schedule is driving to Tysons. Take a breath.

No need to try and sell that the commute to Tysons doesn’t such regardless of practice time. No one is doing it. You take a breath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Driving from Tysons to Arlington for a 5:15 AM Gold 1 practice is a bit different than driving from Arlington to Tysons for a 3:30 PM practice when it comes to logistics and time in the car. Hard to say what the final impacts will be but I have to imagine some of the large contingent of 14 year olds about to age up out of Silver 1 are going to be looking at alternative options.

The tentative schedule I’ve seen for Gold 2 is M-F 5:00am - 6:45am at TY and S 6:00-8:00am at MU. I don’t know about dryland. So for the MU folks going to TY at 5:00 will be ok, but going home might not be.

Have you seen a tentative scheduled for Gold 1 at MU?

You don’t seem to understand that no one from MU is willing to drive to Tysons. Especially when being told that their kids don’t matter to NCAP

The poster literally asked about the Gold 1 schedule, and since Gold 1 is staying at MU no one that needs the Gold 1 schedule is driving to Tysons. Take a breath.

No need to try and sell that the commute to Tysons doesn’t such regardless of practice time. No one is doing it. You take a breath.

Again, no one in Gold 1 is driving to Tysons. I know you’re upset but maybe try to keep up with what you are responding to. Someone asking about the Gold 1 schedule isn’t asking for your anger about your kid having to go to Tysons for Gold 2. They quite frankly don’t care that your Gold 2 kid has to go to Tysons.

[Anonymous]

These team owners could mess up a one-car funeral with no effort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:G2 is a step-down, period. They could have kept him on until Bruce left and didn’t. Wake up.

How is it a step down though? You saying “period” isn’t really convincing. If he actually is being made a head coach in waiting at GP, he gets a chance to be at Prep and get familiar with how it’s run, get to know the other coaches and more importantly the athletes he will be coaching, etc. I’m not a Tysons or GP parent but I’m just not seeing how this is a step down if people are saying Tyson’s AM was their Gold 2 group. If his goal is to run Gold 1 and be a head site coach that wasn’t happening Tyson’s/MU with John and Chris already in place, so moving over to GP would make sense.[/quote

Congratulations this is one of the dumbest most self-soothing posts I’ve seen in a while

Have you ever seen Bruce (Prep) or Jeremy (West) move from being a G1 coach to a G2 coach? No? It’s because they never would- their results are too good.

That’s a demotion bc the g1 group is underperforming. Duh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:G2 is a step-down, period. They could have kept him on until Bruce left and didn’t. Wake up.

How is it a step down though? You saying “period” isn’t really convincing. If he actually is being made a head coach in waiting at GP, he gets a chance to be at Prep and get familiar with how it’s run, get to know the other coaches and more importantly the athletes he will be coaching, etc. I’m not a Tysons or GP parent but I’m just not seeing how this is a step down if people are saying Tyson’s AM was their Gold 2 group. If his goal is to run Gold 1 and be a head site coach that wasn’t happening Tyson’s/MU with John and Chris already in place, so moving over to GP would make sense.[/quote

Congratulations this is one of the dumbest most self-soothing posts I’ve seen in a while

Have you ever seen Bruce (Prep) or Jeremy (West) move from being a G1 coach to a G2 coach? No? It’s because they never would- their results are too good.

That’s a demotion bc the g1 group is underperforming. Duh.

Thanks for your concern but since I’m not affiliated with either site I’m not in need of soothing. The people on this thread are becoming increasingly unhinged. My question was why is everyone saying Tyson’s AM was essentially Gold 2 then, and that PM with John was the Gold 1 equivalent? Because based on what people at Tysons are saying on this thread, he is moving from Gold 2 to Gold 2. If everyone is wrong and AM is actually the Gold 1 equivalent then my thought process would be different.

[Anonymous]

Gold 1 AM and PM were supposed to be Gold 1 groups with a morning or evening option for families. Gold 1 PM with John moved to MU to give Tysons more afternoon lane space for their younger swimmers and those kids have done well. Gold 1 AM has seriously underperformed and many families are unhappy or have left. Instead of actually fixing the problem at the site Spencer and Company decided to ship all of their most talented swimmers to MU and then to fill the pool space now left unfilled in the morning move all of MU Gold 2 to Tysons in that time slot.

This is not about what is best for the swimmers. It is NCAP being lazy and not hiring a new head coach for their falling apart Gold 1 program.

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Anonymous wrote:Driving from Tysons to Arlington for a 5:15 AM Gold 1 practice is a bit different than driving from Arlington to Tysons for a 3:30 PM practice when it comes to logistics and time in the car. Hard to say what the final impacts will be but I have to imagine some of the large contingent of 14 year olds about to age up out of Silver 1 are going to be looking at alternative options.

The tentative schedule I’ve seen for Gold 2 is M-F 5:00am - 6:45am at TY and S 6:00-8:00am at MU. I don’t know about dryland. So for the MU folks going to TY at 5:00 will be ok, but going home might not be.

Have you seen a tentative scheduled for Gold 1 at MU?

You don’t seem to understand that no one from MU is willing to drive to Tysons. Especially when being told that their kids don’t matter to NCAP

The poster literally asked about the Gold 1 schedule, and since Gold 1 is staying at MU no one that needs the Gold 1 schedule is driving to Tysons. Take a breath.

No need to try and sell that the commute to Tysons doesn’t such regardless of practice time. No one is doing it. You take a breath.

Again, no one in Gold 1 is driving to Tysons. I know you’re upset but maybe try to keep up with what you are responding to. Someone asking about the Gold 1 schedule isn’t asking for your anger about your kid having to go to Tysons for Gold 2. They quite frankly don’t care that your Gold 2 kid has to go to Tysons.

Thank you for coming to my defense We live on the opposite side of Tyson's from MU. So I'm trying to determine if Gold 1 at MU is an option for my swimmer. If it's the AM, yes. If PM, then no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing: the reason there are so many questions in this thread is because NCap is never transparent about its decision-making.

If you just use logic, a truly stellar Gold1 coach would never get shuttled to a different site to be a Gold2 coach, and if there are enough kids to fund two Gold groups they would do it for the money.

I thought everyone has been saying that Tyson’s AM was the equivalent of Gold 2, so isn’t he just making a lateral move rather than a step down?

Exactly. Gold AM isn’t the top group. Gold PM is - it’s a lateral move.

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Anonymous wrote:G2 is a step-down, period. They could have kept him on until Bruce left and didn’t. Wake up.

How is it a step down when he was coaches the equivalent of a gold 2 group at Tysons? The Tyson’s equivalent of Gold 1 is Gold PM coached by John for years.

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Anonymous wrote:I would hardly call moving Gold 2 to Tysons blowing up the MU site. It’s 1 training group. You also know at the end of the day what is best for the club and its fastest swimmers is paramount, and that is their Gold 1 group. I’m sure when the Tysons equivalent of their Gold 1 group was moved to MU it was not a popular move with the Tyson’s parents either.

Exactly. I’d rather be inconvenienced for a year or 2 than 4. As a TY parent I don’t want to drive to MU but I will because the coaching and cohort is better for my swimmer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Driving from Tysons to Arlington for a 5:15 AM Gold 1 practice is a bit different than driving from Arlington to Tysons for a 3:30 PM practice when it comes to logistics and time in the car. Hard to say what the final impacts will be but I have to imagine some of the large contingent of 14 year olds about to age up out of Silver 1 are going to be looking at alternative options.

The tentative schedule I’ve seen for Gold 2 is M-F 5:00am - 6:45am at TY and S 6:00-8:00am at MU. I don’t know about dryland. So for the MU folks going to TY at 5:00 will be ok, but going home might not be.

That is the time I go from TY to MU to pick up my Gold 1 swimmer and it’s 18 min door to door between the two sites on 66 and 23-25 on 50.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:G2 is a step-down, period. They could have kept him on until Bruce left and didn’t. Wake up.

How is it a step down though? You saying “period” isn’t really convincing. If he actually is being made a head coach in waiting at GP, he gets a chance to be at Prep and get familiar with how it’s run, get to know the other coaches and more importantly the athletes he will be coaching, etc. I’m not a Tysons or GP parent but I’m just not seeing how this is a step down if people are saying Tyson’s AM was their Gold 2 group. If his goal is to run Gold 1 and be a head site coach that wasn’t happening Tyson’s/MU with John and Chris already in place, so moving over to GP would make sense.[/quote

Congratulations this is one of the dumbest most self-soothing posts I’ve seen in a while

Have you ever seen Bruce (Prep) or Jeremy (West) move from being a G1 coach to a G2 coach? No? It’s because they never would- their results are too good.

That’s a demotion bc the g1 group is underperforming. Duh.

OMG! He wasn’t a Gold 1 coach!! It’s been said multiple times - Gold AM is the equivalent of Gold 2. It wasn’t the high performing group- that was Gold PM under Coach John and Chris. Look at the fee sheet posted and you will see the PM group for Tyson’s listed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Driving from Tysons to Arlington for a 5:15 AM Gold 1 practice is a bit different than driving from Arlington to Tysons for a 3:30 PM practice when it comes to logistics and time in the car. Hard to say what the final impacts will be but I have to imagine some of the large contingent of 14 year olds about to age up out of Silver 1 are going to be looking at alternative options.

The tentative schedule I’ve seen for Gold 2 is M-F 5:00am - 6:45am at TY and S 6:00-8:00am at MU. I don’t know about dryland. So for the MU folks going to TY at 5:00 will be ok, but going home might not be.

Have you seen a tentative scheduled for Gold 1 at MU?

You don’t seem to understand that no one from MU is willing to drive to Tysons. Especially when being told that their kids don’t matter to NCAP

The poster literally asked about the Gold 1 schedule, and since Gold 1 is staying at MU no one that needs the Gold 1 schedule is driving to Tysons. Take a breath.

No need to try and sell that the commute to Tysons doesn’t such regardless of practice time. No one is doing it. You take a breath.

Again, no one in Gold 1 is driving to Tysons. I know you’re upset but maybe try to keep up with what you are responding to. Someone asking about the Gold 1 schedule isn’t asking for your anger about your kid having to go to Tysons for Gold 2. They quite frankly don’t care that your Gold 2 kid has to go to Tysons.

Thank you for coming to my defense We live on the opposite side of Tyson's from MU. So I'm trying to determine if Gold 1 at MU is an option for my swimmer. If it's the AM, yes. If PM, then no.

My Gold 1 swimmer reports they are going to the PM in the fall. Nothing official yet and I really hope that isn’t the case.

[Anonymous]

I understand the draw to commute to MU for Gold 1 but why in the world would any Gold 2 families drive all the way to Tysons?