Poor American kids in Florida to take immigrant jobs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no limit to how low these MAGAS will go.

Unbelievable , asking high school students to work.

Ah, the humanity !

[Anonymous]

This law would apply to HOMESCHOOLED CHILDREN ONLY. Look it up.

In that case, I see nothing wrong with it, though I would not allow my own kids to work overnights.

I worked 15-20 hours a week starting at 16 (and usually more in the summers). I balanced school, a school sport, marching band, and my PT job as a grocery store cashier just fine. It was good for me (taught me great time management skills) and I needed the money to help pay for upcoming college expenses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.

Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?

They're not being mandated. But they are ALLOWED to work overnight shifts during school days. And 16 year olds now need not be given a lunch break during an 8 hour shift. So, there is nothing stopping employers from making working overnight shifts a condition of employment, and there may be poor kids who have no choice but to take it, which tanks their academics, keeping them poor. Which is likely the outcome they seek anyway.

This. And there’s not much preventing a 14 year old exhausted from working overnight shifts from dropping out of school. And so the poor stay poor and uneducated and as a pool of cheap exploitable labor for the rich.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.

Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?

? where did I state that it was " mandated"?

Desantis is proposing that 14+ kids should be able to work night shifts.

A family desperate for money may allow their 14 yr old to work a night shift. That should not be allowed. We don't live in a third world country, though we are headed towards a third world dictatorship.

No one is forcing anyone to work overnight shifts. You don't get to say what other people can do. That the point. If you don't want your kids working overnight. Don't have them do it.

Child labor laws exist to protect children because the adults in their lives won’t protect them. Many families will force their kids to work. Allowing children to work overnight shift and ann excessive number of hours a week will have huge impacts on their education. I wouldn’t be surprised if it increase the dropout rate.

This isn’t about “if you don’t like it then don’t have your kids do it”.

You can’t save these people, they want this sort of worker abuse for themselves and their kids. Why else would you vote for Trump and republicans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This law would apply to HOMESCHOOLED CHILDREN ONLY. Look it up.

In that case, I see nothing wrong with it, though I would not allow my own kids to work overnights.

I worked 15-20 hours a week starting at 16 (and usually more in the summers). I balanced school, a school sport, marching band, and my PT job as a grocery store cashier just fine. It was good for me (taught me great time management skills) and I needed the money to help pay for upcoming college expenses.

Are you dense? No one is talking about the merits of teenagers having jobs. They are talking about rolling back worker protections and allowing 14 year olds to work oversight, leaving them open to the predation and danger that happens when you work at jobs at 1 am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gosh some people on here complain over nothing. I had many jobs as a kid and I intend for my kids to do the same. We don’t need the money but it’s great life experience.

This! I'm an immigrant who came here. I couldn't work in my country as a teenager because there simply were no jobs for teens. I wanted desperately to earn any money for clothes, make up, etc. Teenagers in US are so incredibly spoiled and kids in general so privileged. No wonder, most kids don't even know how to clean the house, cook simple meals by the age of 20.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gosh some people on here complain over nothing. I had many jobs as a kid and I intend for my kids to do the same. We don’t need the money but it’s great life experience.

This! I'm an immigrant who came here. I couldn't work in my country as a teenager because there simply were no jobs for teens. I wanted desperately to earn any money for clothes, make up, etc. Teenagers in US are so incredibly spoiled and kids in general so privileged. No wonder, most kids don't even know how to clean the house, cook simple meals by the age of 20.

Ok-you go send your 14 year old daughter out to work from 10 pm to 6 am and let us know how that goes. Hopefully no one attacks her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no limit to how low these MAGAS will go.

Unbelievable , asking high school students to work.

Ah, the humanity !

Don't be an A-Hole. Get your kid to work in a filthy chicken plant, cotton field or hot roof in 100+ degree whether and see how long they last. (This isn't babysitting or lifeguarding, MAGA).

[Anonymous]

Better they are at work than sitting around playing video games, watching TikTok, or out looking for trouble for 30+ hours a week. They might actually learn some actual skills and stay out of trouble.

For some kids, this is a great option. Many of these teens will enter the workforce FT directly after high school and are not traditionally academically inclined in the first place. They can also use the $ earned to pay for job training after HS or whatever else they may need.

For others who want to work hard, it will allow saving more $ for a traditional 4 year college. And yes- teens can juggle a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no limit to how low these MAGAS will go.

Unbelievable , asking high school students to work.

Ah, the humanity !

Don't be an A-Hole. Get your kid to work in a filthy chicken plant, cotton field or hot roof in 100+ degree whether and see how long they last. (This isn't babysitting or lifeguarding, MAGA).

+1. And go send your middle school 8th grader to work overnight and then attend school as required the next day. They won’t last very long in middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no limit to how low these MAGAS will go.

Unbelievable , asking high school students to work.

Ah, the humanity !

Don't be an A-Hole. Get your kid to work in a filthy chicken plant, cotton field or hot roof in 100+ degree whether and see how long they last. (This isn't babysitting or lifeguarding, MAGA).

+1. And go send your middle school 8th grader to work overnight and then attend school as required the next day. They won’t last very long in middle school.

I think that's the point. Republicans need uneducated people to accept the low wages they are paying.

[Anonymous]

How many 14 year olds are working in Florida right now?

Where is the evidence that this will lead to kids taking immigrant jobs?
Especially when Florida is already pretty restrictive of illegal immigrants. I remember the thread on this forum of how all the construction firms were going to disappear because they couldn't hire illegal immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This law would apply to HOMESCHOOLED CHILDREN ONLY. Look it up.

In that case, I see nothing wrong with it, though I would not allow my own kids to work overnights.

I worked 15-20 hours a week starting at 16 (and usually more in the summers). I balanced school, a school sport, marching band, and my PT job as a grocery store cashier just fine. It was good for me (taught me great time management skills) and I needed the money to help pay for upcoming college expenses.

Are you dense? No one is talking about the merits of teenagers having jobs. They are talking about rolling back worker protections and allowing 14 year olds to work oversight, leaving them open to the predation and danger that happens when you work at jobs at 1 am.

Honestly, people in this thread and others today are so dumb. Just the way MAGA likes their voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many 14 year olds are working in Florida right now?

Where is the evidence that this will lead to kids taking immigrant jobs?
Especially when Florida is already pretty restrictive of illegal immigrants. I remember the thread on this forum of how all the construction firms were going to disappear because they couldn't hire illegal immigrants.

People please look this up. Don’t be willfully obtuse. It was proposed to fill a void for the loss of migrant workers. Have some curiosity. Be a free thinker. Check sources. Think about consequences, unintended and otherwise. Stop relating this to yourself and think about what it means for the larger community and state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many 14 year olds are working in Florida right now?

Where is the evidence that this will lead to kids taking immigrant jobs?
Especially when Florida is already pretty restrictive of illegal immigrants. I remember the thread on this forum of how all the construction firms were going to disappear because they couldn't hire illegal immigrants.

People please look this up. Don’t be willfully obtuse. It was proposed to fill a void for the loss of migrant workers. Have some curiosity. Be a free thinker. Check sources. Think about consequences, unintended and otherwise. Stop relating this to yourself and think about what it means for the larger community and state.

That's why it was proposed. But where is the evidence that this will happen?

What is the current state of 14 and 15 year olds working in the currently easier jobs that are not overnight shifts?