Poor American kids in Florida to take immigrant jobs

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.


Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?


They're not being mandated. But they are ALLOWED to work overnight shifts during school days. And 16 year olds now need not be given a lunch break during an 8 hour shift. So, there is nothing stopping employers from making working overnight shifts a condition of employment, and there may be poor kids who have no choice but to take it, which tanks their academics, keeping them poor. Which is likely the outcome they seek anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.


Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?

? where did I state that it was " mandated"?

Desantis is proposing that 14+ kids should be able to work night shifts.

A family desperate for money may allow their 14 yr old to work a night shift. That should not be allowed. We don't live in a third world country, though we are headed towards a third world dictatorship.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.


Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?


They're not being mandated. But they are ALLOWED to work overnight shifts during school days. And 16 year olds now need not be given a lunch break during an 8 hour shift. So, there is nothing stopping employers from making working overnight shifts a condition of employment, and there may be poor kids who have no choice but to take it, which tanks their academics, keeping them poor. Which is likely the outcome they seek anyway.

Awful. They want to go back to the days of child slave labor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.


Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?

? where did I state that it was " mandated"?

Desantis is proposing that 14+ kids should be able to work night shifts.

A family desperate for money may allow their 14 yr old to work a night shift. That should not be allowed. We don't live in a third world country, though we are headed towards a third world dictatorship.


No one is forcing anyone to work overnight shifts. You don't get to say what other people can do. That the point. If you don't want your kids working overnight. Don't have them do it.
Anonymous
Is this going to be conscripted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I started working as a teen washing dishes. I was 13, and it was invaluable life and work experience, and i got paid.

Whats wrong with this?


Agree - I'm not saying overnight shifts - but work is good. My kids both worked in HS and from a young age (babysitting, walking dogs, later food servers/camp counselors etc.). This was a choice - we are UMC - it helped them get into great schools and grad schools. Once they graduated, it gave them a leg up over friends that could not get work despite expensive degrees because - well - they had no idea what work politics or a real boss expects or how to interview without a script or a coach. Work gives you the most important skills of all - PEOPLE skills. This whole "my kids are too busy to work" has created a wave of useless gen Zs crippled with anxiety over doing the littlest things. Great test scores are meaningless in the workplace. Poor kids and rich kids would benefit from taking jobs.
Anonymous
No more men in girls' fruit picking fields!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh some people on here complain over nothing. I had many jobs as a kid and I intend for my kids to do the same. We don’t need the money but it’s great life experience.


People this legislation is to allow kids to work overnight in jobs that migrants held. If you want your kid working the overnight shift in the factory, you do you.

This issue is that this bill wouldn’t be necessary if we let migrants stay, and also because it’s a slippery slope without a department of education and the very high risk (especially after today’s demented rant) that we enter a depression. Kids will be FORCED to work instead of go to school because the family is impoverished. Despite what the felon said, eggs are now down 59% today, not are groceries down.

Please think it through.


That's good advice, now you should go look up what the department of education did. Doesn't cover these kids.


Yes, the DOE absolutely covers American kids.
Anonymous
Hey if unemployment is too high, how about giving people the jobs that prisoners do for $2/day?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I started working as a teen washing dishes. I was 13, and it was invaluable life and work experience, and i got paid.

Whats wrong with this?


Agree - I'm not saying overnight shifts - but work is good. My kids both worked in HS and from a young age (babysitting, walking dogs, later food servers/camp counselors etc.). This was a choice - we are UMC - it helped them get into great schools and grad schools. Once they graduated, it gave them a leg up over friends that could not get work despite expensive degrees because - well - they had no idea what work politics or a real boss expects or how to interview without a script or a coach. Work gives you the most important skills of all - PEOPLE skills. This whole "my kids are too busy to work" has created a wave of useless gen Zs crippled with anxiety over doing the littlest things. Great test scores are meaningless in the workplace. Poor kids and rich kids would benefit from taking jobs.


People. This isn’t about this. We don’t need your thoughts on whether kids should work. This isn’t the parenting forum, it’s the political forum. Please educate yourself on THIS topic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hey if unemployment is too high, how about giving people the jobs that prisoners do for $2/day?


That blows up the state budget and leads to decreased state services or increased state taxes. Probably both.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read that ir only applies to homeschooled kids?


MAGA evangelicals are huge homeschoolers! I love it.
Anonymous
If 14 year olds are to be conscripted to pick produce then it should be across the board that EVERY 14 yr. will work in fields IRRESPECTIVE of family income.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG some of you are so stupid. No one is saying teens shouldn't work. We're saying they shouldn't work OVERNIGHT SHIFTS, which is what Desantis is saying teens should be able to do.

-parent of two teens who work, during the day and evening.


Where does it say kids will be mandated to work overnight shifts?

? where did I state that it was " mandated"?

Desantis is proposing that 14+ kids should be able to work night shifts.

A family desperate for money may allow their 14 yr old to work a night shift. That should not be allowed. We don't live in a third world country, though we are headed towards a third world dictatorship.


No one is forcing anyone to work overnight shifts. You don't get to say what other people can do. That the point. If you don't want your kids working overnight. Don't have them do it.


Child labor laws exist to protect children because the adults in their lives won’t protect them. Many families will force their kids to work. Allowing children to work overnight shift and ann excessive number of hours a week will have huge impacts on their education. I wouldn’t be surprised if it increase the dropout rate.

This isn’t about “if you don’t like it then don’t have your kids do it”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If 14 year olds are to be conscripted to pick produce then it should be across the board that EVERY 14 yr. will work in fields IRRESPECTIVE of family income.


Uh… no. MAGA voted for this s$$t show, they are welcome to send their kids to pick produce. Lower income people voted for Trump 70% to 30% Harris. This what they want for themselves and their children and this what they will get, there is no saving these people.

Democrats warned about worker protections, child labor laws etc but Democrats were labeled as elitists. Now, they can all go work for their Orange God.
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