Poor American kids in Florida to take immigrant jobs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My teen wanted to work over the summer, but foreign Eastern European temp workers took all the jobs.

Did he want to work overnight with no breaks on school nights?

Also, where are you located? Everywhere in FFX is advertising for lifeguards right now. Never met an “Eastern European temp worker” in that role…

Every single one of the lifeguards at my parents’ building in NOVA for the past 20 years has been a temporary European worker. Year after year.

(I’m not against it, just providing some anecdata.)

[Anonymous]

I thought rural Americans were complaining that immigrants were taking their jobs...so where are they now, why are they not filling those jobs? Why are those jobs going undone...or worse, they are sending their teens do work all night and then go to school the next day. Shame on you Florida.
Proof that DeSantis is anti-family.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, good luck with that. What 14 yo do you know who is actually going to work at a physically demanding job for 8 hrs?
The only ones with that work ethic is a refugee or immigrant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, good luck with that. What 14 yo do you know who is actually going to work at a physically demanding job for 8 hrs?
The only ones with that work ethic is a refugee or immigrant.

That "work ethic" you are referencing here is called desperation. Poor American citizen 14 year olds have safety nets so they don't have to work to eat. If you will recall before labor laws and our very basic social safety net programs, Americans had that same level of "work ethic." Any 14 year old working under this law will be doing so because of their parents in one way or another.

[Anonymous]

No time for joyriding and crime when you're tired from physical labor.

[Anonymous]

The reality is the jobs will simply go unfilled. And eventually they will sound the alarm and lobby to import workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of teen/young adult temp workers from Europe and South America working at ski resorts. No matter which resorts you go to across the country, you will see this. I've seen it in Utah, Colorado, Pennsylvania, West VA, Virginia and Maryland while skiing. There is obviously a pipeline for these people. I'm sure there are other pockets of employment where foreign workers dominate. And these are not back breaking jobs. Surely American kids can hand out ski boots.

We aren’t taking about working at ski resorts. These are jobs undocumented workers usually do. So use your imagination. And if it’s not a big deal, when are your kids signing up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, good luck with that. What 14 yo do you know who is actually going to work at a physically demanding job for 8 hrs?
The only ones with that work ethic is a refugee or immigrant.

Let’s not conflate work ethic and desperation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the WV kids are going to be working in Trump’s beautiful clean coal mines so they can support their “disabled” MAGA parents.

Make District 12 great again

[Anonymous]

This is silly. This exact situation - temporarily staffing resorts, hotels, amusement parks etc. during tourist season - is why we need robust guest worker programs. They come for 3 months, work for good US wages higher than they can make for similar work in their own countries, and then they leave with a pile of cash. Nobody is staying permanently, but the jobs get filled and the tourists are happy. Same goes for agricultural work. We don’t necessarily need US citizens doing these jobs, but we also don’t need the people doing these jobs to live here 12 months out of the year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like they are shifting exploitation from immigrants to American children and legalizing it. FLSA is still in effect though so some of this may be rolled back.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were the American citizen children of illegal immigrants that end up working those jobs.

He wants to return to the gilded age, except he calls it the golden age. Yes, kids worked in factories, and there were no protections.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like natural consequences to me. Sorry kids. You have idiots for parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Overnight shift for a growing child who needs to be in school? No breaks?

That's inhumane.

It prevents any success in high school. Quite possibly keeps the kid from graduating from HS. But some parents will pressure kids to do it anyway to survive economically— especially as the effect of tariffs and boycotts hit and we hit full recession.

But then, maybe FL is actually forward thinking. Create a permanent underclass trap to replace immigrants. American citizen kids whose parents can’t earn enough to survive/ can’t go to work for fear of ICE raids and work full time overnight in high school to put food on the table. Must sleep sometimes and dont get a real education/ even a high school degree. Continue their whole lives in minimum wage jobs, can’t have abortion, limit access to cheap, safe effective birth control. Destroy the social safety net and blame 16 year olds for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and supporting their families while pulling good HS grades. Pop out more kids than they can afford and send those kids into the fields at 14, instead of them getting an education. Rinse. Repeat.

Ron DeSantis is a frigging genius! (Pardon me while I go puke. A full shift with no meal break for 16 year olds?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My teen wanted to work over the summer, but foreign Eastern European temp workers took all the jobs.

Then they didn’t try very hard to get a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of teen/young adult temp workers from Europe and South America working at ski resorts. No matter which resorts you go to across the country, you will see this. I've seen it in Utah, Colorado, Pennsylvania, West VA, Virginia and Maryland while skiing. There is obviously a pipeline for these people. I'm sure there are other pockets of employment where foreign workers dominate. And these are not back breaking jobs. Surely American kids can hand out ski boots.

My DD’s Girl Scout camps did cultural exchange. Girls from English speaking countries came to be counselors. Camps in their countries took our students. It was nice. We hosted a couple each summer. They can a few days at the beginning and end. Some chose to come visit during the summer if they had a weekend off.

To answer your question— American kids can hand out ski boots. But this is winter, yes? Are there enough kids to fill these jobs from the local community when school is in session and tourists are still coming? My guess is no. And the ski resorts need consistent, low wage weekday staffing even when school is in session.

There are criteria for issuing visas. Up until recently, the “Kings Dominion” law keeps VA schools from starting before Labor Day specifically so a few tourist attractions could staff after HS started for the year.