Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?

[Anonymous]

Says a lot about the coach’s lack of integrity that they would talk smack about children they are supposed to be mentoring and nurturing. This person is not a leader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Says a lot about the coach’s lack of integrity that they would talk smack about children they are supposed to be mentoring and nurturing. This person is not a leader.

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[Anonymous]

Maybe unrelated but I was at Yorktown one day and saw a York age group coach in his swimsuit doing relays with the kids. It gave me the creeps and I found the lack of boundaries very concerning. He had a certain arrogance. I wish I had reported it. Coaches need boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says a lot about the coach’s lack of integrity that they would talk smack about children they are supposed to be mentoring and nurturing. This person is not a leader.

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Not the PP, but this post was in response to earlier posts that have since been removed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Says a lot about the coach’s lack of integrity that they would talk smack about children they are supposed to be mentoring and nurturing. This person is not a leader.

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Not the PP, but this post was in response to earlier posts that have since been removed.

Was T talking smack about his own swimmers?

[Anonymous]

Coaches frequently talk smack about their swimmers, especially when kids leave the club. DS was at a meet where three coaches were gossiping about a swimmer who left. DS was sitting near coaches and heard the trash talking. Do better coaches!!!

PS - to the coaches, the kids tell each other what the coaches say about each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Swim is one of the only sports where stats speak for themselves....

Except that they don't always follow that even then. Happened to my DS several times. It's wild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe unrelated but I was at Yorktown one day and saw a York age group coach in his swimsuit doing relays with the kids. It gave me the creeps and I found the lack of boundaries very concerning. He had a certain arrogance. I wish I had reported it. Coaches need boundaries.

Not sure I understand this. You saw a swim coach...swimming? And that gave you the creeps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swim is one of the only sports where stats speak for themselves....

Except that they don't always follow that even then. Happened to my DS several times. It's wild.

Happens with T all the time. His tuckahoe swimmers have gotten preferential treatment for years. Winter Classic rosters are a perfect example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe unrelated but I was at Yorktown one day and saw a York age group coach in his swimsuit doing relays with the kids. It gave me the creeps and I found the lack of boundaries very concerning. He had a certain arrogance. I wish I had reported it. Coaches need boundaries.

Not sure I understand this. You saw a swim coach...swimming? And that gave you the creeps?

Agreed this wasn’t creepy , if this was creepy you would also have to report fitter , faster , swim camps . The instructors also get in the water. You would also have to report all the coaches who provide developmental lessons to youngsters at summer pools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swim is one of the only sports where stats speak for themselves....

Except that they don't always follow that even then. Happened to my DS several times. It's wild.

Happens with T all the time. His tuckahoe swimmers have gotten preferential treatment for years. Winter Classic rosters are a perfect example.

My kids don't swim the Winter Classic, but as I understand it rosters are limited to a set number for each team, with the expectation that kids are swimming the max number of events eligible. I'm that scenario, I could see a kid who has faster times in one stroke not swimming because there is an overall advantage in having another kid who is more balanced. That doesn't mean it is preferential treatment, just a coaching decision.

If you have concerns with the coaching decisions (for club, summer, high school, whatever), talk to the coach. What did T say when you asked why your kid didn't get to swim? And please be honest, this is for posterity.

[Anonymous]

Happens with T all the time. His tuckahoe swimmers have gotten preferential treatment for years. Winter Classic rosters are a perfect example.

My kids don't swim the Winter Classic, but as I understand it rosters are limited to a set number for each team, with the expectation that kids are swimming the max number of events eligible. I'm that scenario, I could see a kid who has faster times in one stroke not swimming because there is an overall advantage in having another kid who is more balanced. That doesn't mean it is preferential treatment, just a coaching decision.

If you have concerns with the coaching decisions (for club, summer, high school, whatever), talk to the coach. What did T say when you asked why your kid didn't get to swim? And please be honest, this is for posterity.

It's impossible that Torey controls the entire Winter Classic roster, as much as you want that to be true. There are a certain number of slots per team and it's pretty competitive as you get older. There are other York groups and coaches that have input and I'm sure it's based on times, like all "invite" meets. Maybe he has a bigger pull for the younger swimmers, but for the older ones, I can assure you it's tough to get a spot.

[Anonymous]

York parent here, and not a Tuckahoe member. I think Coach T was very clear about the expectations for Winter Classic. He emailed parents and spoke directly to the kids about signing up for more distance events—like 200s and 500s—in the meets leading up to it. He specifically discouraged doing the same old 50s. The only part that felt less fair was that coaches in the other groups didn’t provide the same level of guidance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To an out of state swim meet? Do you think that shows good boundaries and self-awareness? Y or N?

The real story is having to fly to a kid’s sporting event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swim is one of the only sports where stats speak for themselves....

Except that they don't always follow that even then. Happened to my DS several times. It's wild.

Happens with T all the time. His tuckahoe swimmers have gotten preferential treatment for years. Winter Classic rosters are a perfect example.

This is BS. The great thing about this sport is it really is empirical and the times are readily available. Spent two minutes looking it up: went to meet mobile to see who swam for York at the Winter Classic and then compared to the rankings on swimcloud for York filtered by age group to see who was highest rated and then compared to the roster on mynvsl to see the Tuckahoe list. Results are that this post is full of crap. No swimmer got passed over so a Tuckahoe kid could swim who didn't earn it.

If your kid didn't get to swim I understand you may be looking for other reasons to rationalize it, but don't spread your hatred here with thin allegations.