Nursing home for undocumented friend

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, folks, you found one decrepit old lady you can tell yourself you are superior to. Does that make your life finally feel not an utter failure?

There are thousands more and the answer is the same. They are not entitled to taxpayer money as they age.

It is one of the consequences of being an illegal immigrant.

[Anonymous]

OP - Most American citizens who have paid taxes their whole lives still have to rely on family and friends to take care of them in their old age. Despite being extremely expensive, the US safety net for the elderly is extremely thin and full of holes. My dad has advanced dementia, is incontinent and mostly wheelchair bound and Medicaid pays for none of his care. For years it was my mother caring for all of his personal needs and now it is covered by private pay long-term care insurance and personal savings. It's crazy expensive to be old and frail.

If there is little to no support for legal citizens, you can begin to understand why people are so frustrated at the idea that there would be public resources available for a non-citizen who is here illegally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, thanks for your care and concern for your friend. What a sad situation for her. With no home to go back to, no family to help, no benefits here...she is lucky she is not entirely alone.

It breaks my heart to read all the inhumane and unkind replies here. If you have family, health, benefits, a safety net: you are LUCKIER than this woman. You are not more deserving.

There but for the grace of God go I, so they say. Or theee but for the sheer luck of how and where I was born, go I.

We are not lucky, we are citizens of our country and owe this border jumper nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op, if you desperately want to help her then take her in and take care of her yourself.

I don’t have the space or resources to provide 24/7 care

OP, and I say this gently -- neither does America.

That's bull and we all know it. And Im not even talking about immigrants.

We do not prioritize elderly care, or childcare, in this country for the neediest among us. Citizens or not. We are the wealthiest and greatest nation in the world and we let the elderly poor starve and freeze to death and molder away in sh°tty nursing homes because we do not care.

We have the space and the money. What we lack is the WILL and EMPATHY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing OP won't be back.

Probably thought there were going to be taxpayer-funded/free options available for her friend and is now disheartened to know there aren't.

I am here, reading. Looks like she is out of options. She can’t go back (long and sad story) Will she just die on the street if no one takes her in? So sad but yeah, taxpayers money, I hear you(OP)

Unfortunately with all the freebies given to illegal immigrants over the past four years (at least what we've been made aware of) people are running out of sympathy and I can't say I blame them. She needs to go back to her country, and yes, she can go back to her country. I have enough on my plate, as do many other Americans, just don't have the empathy in me any longer.

What are the freebies?

Wow you're really out of touch

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, thanks for your care and concern for your friend. What a sad situation for her. With no home to go back to, no family to help, no benefits here...she is lucky she is not entirely alone.

It breaks my heart to read all the inhumane and unkind replies here. If you have family, health, benefits, a safety net: you are LUCKIER than this woman. You are not more deserving.

There but for the grace of God go I, so they say. Or theee but for the sheer luck of how and where I was born, go I.

You are not alone in being horrified at the lack of empathy or the awareness of good fortune displayed in this thread.

You are very mightier than thou and assuming plenty of things yourself.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread gloating or not being willing to acknowledge their privilege. On the other had, I have seen people be quite factual about how strained resources are for people who have been paying into the system and will likely never recoup that themselves. They might get marginal assistance, but not enough.

And again, not gloating, but factually -- this was not an unforeseen problem. Was there no plan at all, other than to assume someone(s) else would have to help?

People have directly stated they have no empathy. Someone suggested shipping her to Canada for assisted suicide (that’s not how it works FYI, but the cruel intention was there). I highly doubt any of you making these callous remarks are doing anything to help suffering Americans either.

I pay a buttload of taxes that get redistributed to Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, thanks for your care and concern for your friend. What a sad situation for her. With no home to go back to, no family to help, no benefits here...she is lucky she is not entirely alone.

It breaks my heart to read all the inhumane and unkind replies here. If you have family, health, benefits, a safety net: you are LUCKIER than this woman. You are not more deserving.

There but for the grace of God go I, so they say. Or theee but for the sheer luck of how and where I was born, go I.

We are not lucky, we are citizens of our country and owe this border jumper nothing.

You think you were born in this country based on merit as opposed to some cosmic lottery??????????

Just face it, you are a horrible human being and I would rather live next to a million hard working undocumented immigrants than an entitled, selfish, ignorant prick like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, thanks for your care and concern for your friend. What a sad situation for her. With no home to go back to, no family to help, no benefits here...she is lucky she is not entirely alone.

It breaks my heart to read all the inhumane and unkind replies here. If you have family, health, benefits, a safety net: you are LUCKIER than this woman. You are not more deserving.

There but for the grace of God go I, so they say. Or theee but for the sheer luck of how and where I was born, go I.

You are not alone in being horrified at the lack of empathy or the awareness of good fortune displayed in this thread.

You are very mightier than thou and assuming plenty of things yourself.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread gloating or not being willing to acknowledge their privilege. On the other had, I have seen people be quite factual about how strained resources are for people who have been paying into the system and will likely never recoup that themselves. They might get marginal assistance, but not enough.

And again, not gloating, but factually -- this was not an unforeseen problem. Was there no plan at all, other than to assume someone(s) else would have to help?

People have directly stated they have no empathy. Someone suggested shipping her to Canada for assisted suicide (that’s not how it works FYI, but the cruel intention was there). I highly doubt any of you making these callous remarks are doing anything to help suffering Americans either.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Have YOU done years of volunteer work with the elderly? Gone to nursing facilities? Visited elderly in their homes? Brought them meals, helped them with hygiene and house cleaning? Advocated with local elected officials for better services?

At a minimum, have you gone out and purchased items needed by your local, poor elderly and donated them - even small things like lotions, hygiene items, maybe a couple of word puzzle books?

If you have not then why not? In 2025, will you pledge to call your local Agency on Aging and offer your time?

If not, perhaps look at your own callousness. There is significant need for the poor elderly in this country. Put up or shut up.

Not only have I volunteered extensively, I’ve been the primary caregiver for friends and neighbors who had no one else. How nice that you visited a few times, Lady Bountiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, if you desperately want to help her then take her in and take care of her yourself.

I don’t have the space or resources to provide 24/7 care

OP, and I say this gently -- neither does America.

That's bull and we all know it. And Im not even talking about immigrants.

We do not prioritize elderly care, or childcare, in this country for the neediest among us. Citizens or not. We are the wealthiest and greatest nation in the world and we let the elderly poor starve and freeze to death and molder away in sh°tty nursing homes because we do not care.

We have the space and the money. What we lack is the WILL and EMPATHY.

That space and money is not there NOW. It could be redistributed, yes, and I expect you to vote appropriately to make that happen.

Meanwhile, you can open up your own home to someone who needs it. Perhaps even this woman. Are you doing that? Or are you making the choices to distribute your space and resources in a way that precludes sharing like this right now?

YOU are not better than America, lady. We can all do better, but I highly doubt you are an angel living in the midst of demons. You just want someone else to take care of this. That's fine, but they aren't less free from criticism than you individually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, thanks for your care and concern for your friend. What a sad situation for her. With no home to go back to, no family to help, no benefits here...she is lucky she is not entirely alone.

It breaks my heart to read all the inhumane and unkind replies here. If you have family, health, benefits, a safety net: you are LUCKIER than this woman. You are not more deserving.

There but for the grace of God go I, so they say. Or theee but for the sheer luck of how and where I was born, go I.

You are not alone in being horrified at the lack of empathy or the awareness of good fortune displayed in this thread.

You are very mightier than thou and assuming plenty of things yourself.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread gloating or not being willing to acknowledge their privilege. On the other had, I have seen people be quite factual about how strained resources are for people who have been paying into the system and will likely never recoup that themselves. They might get marginal assistance, but not enough.

And again, not gloating, but factually -- this was not an unforeseen problem. Was there no plan at all, other than to assume someone(s) else would have to help?

People have directly stated they have no empathy. Someone suggested shipping her to Canada for assisted suicide (that’s not how it works FYI, but the cruel intention was there). I highly doubt any of you making these callous remarks are doing anything to help suffering Americans either.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Have YOU done years of volunteer work with the elderly? Gone to nursing facilities? Visited elderly in their homes? Brought them meals, helped them with hygiene and house cleaning? Advocated with local elected officials for better services?

At a minimum, have you gone out and purchased items needed by your local, poor elderly and donated them - even small things like lotions, hygiene items, maybe a couple of word puzzle books?

If you have not then why not? In 2025, will you pledge to call your local Agency on Aging and offer your time?

If not, perhaps look at your own callousness. There is significant need for the poor elderly in this country. Put up or shut up.

Not only have I volunteered extensively, I’ve been the primary caregiver for friends and neighbors who had no one else. How nice that you visited a few times, Lady Bountiful.

Great. Post your contact info, and this situation is settled. Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Go back to her home country. Or full pay here. Those are the choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go back to her home country. Or full pay here. Those are the choices.

You sound like a real expert on the subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, thanks for your care and concern for your friend. What a sad situation for her. With no home to go back to, no family to help, no benefits here...she is lucky she is not entirely alone.

It breaks my heart to read all the inhumane and unkind replies here. If you have family, health, benefits, a safety net: you are LUCKIER than this woman. You are not more deserving.

There but for the grace of God go I, so they say. Or theee but for the sheer luck of how and where I was born, go I.

We are not lucky, we are citizens of our country and owe this border jumper nothing.

You think you were born in this country based on merit as opposed to some cosmic lottery??????????

Just face it, you are a horrible human being and I would rather live next to a million hard working undocumented immigrants than an entitled, selfish, ignorant prick like you.

Ok, so take in OP’s friend. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, if you desperately want to help her then take her in and take care of her yourself.

I don’t have the space or resources to provide 24/7 care

OP, and I say this gently -- neither does America.

That's bull and we all know it. And Im not even talking about immigrants.

We do not prioritize elderly care, or childcare, in this country for the neediest among us. Citizens or not. We are the wealthiest and greatest nation in the world and we let the elderly poor starve and freeze to death and molder away in sh°tty nursing homes because we do not care.

We have the space and the money. What we lack is the WILL and EMPATHY.

That space and money is not there NOW. It could be redistributed, yes, and I expect you to vote appropriately to make that happen.

Meanwhile, you can open up your own home to someone who needs it. Perhaps even this woman. Are you doing that? Or are you making the choices to distribute your space and resources in a way that precludes sharing like this right now?

YOU are not better than America, lady. We can all do better, but I highly doubt you are an angel living in the midst of demons. You just want someone else to take care of this. That's fine, but they aren't less free from criticism than you individually.

Oh, a non response response. This is my field of work here, this is what I do for a living. So yeah I do more than just open my home to one random person. I'm trying to make this a reality and not just with my vote

But whatever. I don't know why I bother responding to idiots

[Anonymous]

"This is my field of work here, this is what I do for a living."

Are you employed by a company that provides long-term care?