Nursing home for undocumented friend
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Anonymous
Some of this makes no sense. Medicare does not pay long term. It pays for short rehab only. You can go into a medicaid bed pending as you apply after you are in the bed. |
Anonymous
| This whole thread is des |
Anonymous
+1 we have money for Ukraine though |
Anonymous
That money is protecting you from Russia. You’re going to love aging in a provincial state of Russia once you finally receive what you voted for. |
Anonymous
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"...my octogenarian father was visiting his brother on their farm in an EU country"
Yes, but your father was not in the country illegally was he? Your father is perhaps a dual citizen? "Their" farm, meaning they own the land? "He was hospitalized for several days. He could have stayed there and his family encouraged him to, since it would be free. Instead, he opted to fly home to NY..." Emergent care is covered for up to 90 days in EU countries. That's for anyone - not just seniors. Even those on tourist visas. Your father was also well enough to be discharged AND fly home. This post is about providing LONG TERM care to an individual who is not in a country legally but is also well enough to fly back to her home country. |
Anonymous
The money spent on Ukraine is worth 10x what we provide. We have managed to kill 500,000 Russian troops and exposed Russia’s military as inept and 3rd world…and we haven’t lost a single US citizen. |
Anonymous
Yeah I'm the bull poster and agree with the above. Appropriations for foreign affairs are absolutely vital to our safety and security. We have plenty of money realistically. We just need to have the political will and willingness to funnel it all correctly |
Anonymous
Don't you agree that funneling it correctly should mean taking care of our elderly citizens needs' first? Just about every other country does this including wealthy ones like Switzerland and Norway. The problem I have is when a needy elderly American citizen needs housing or other support it is not available. Many here on the Elderly Forum will attest to that. IN PART it is because resources are going to support needy non-citizens. There are only so many affordable housing options available. And it's getting worse. Just saw a local news program where HUD (and other public/private funds) went towards a brand new housing complex for immigrants families with children. Yet there are no options for poor elderly housing. When asked about it for a relative, we've been told to take them to a homeless shelter as there are no apartments or vouchers available unless you have small children - citizen or not. This has been going on for years. |
Anonymous
I agree completely. Plus it’s a real life hero story for our kids to see unfold in real time. Shows our kids that bullies don’t always win and that standing up for yourself is worth it. |
Anonymous
This woman isn’t an American. She’s an illegal immigrant who came here to exploit our country for her benefit, and the time for that is up. If she commits a serious crime now as you’re suggesting, she would likely be deported, which is exactly what should happen. Because as you rightly pointed out, taxpayers fund the criminal’s care in the case of someone being imprisoned - and why should we do that when those people are not our responsibility. |
Anonymous
| I'm a dual citizen with an EU country and no, you cannot get free healthcare in the EU except for emergencies. Otherwise we'd all fly there after a certain age, no? Citizens, when retired, however do have free healthcare and these papers are easy to process (whether you ever worked and paid into the system or not). Most citizens obviously paid into the system over the lifetime or the system would not exist. That said, the best option for the OP's friend is indeed to go back to her home country. If she worked here for 15 years, she must have worked in her come country as well earlier and have some safety net. There is no such thing as "cannot go back", every country has a legal obligation to take in their citizens, if needed, contact the embassy. |
Anonymous
Spot on! |
Anonymous
The cold, hard truth about countries like Norway, Switzerland et al is that they accept that old people die. They don't authorize absurd medical interventions for 85 year olds or 90 year olds like we do in the US, nor do they prescribe anything remotely similar to the number of drugs we prescribe for older people. Their populations as a whole are much healthier to start (far less obesity, better diets, etc.). They have a far more casual attitude that while it may be technically possible to provide open-heart surgery for someone that's 90...the quality of life after such surgery will likely be terrible...and they are 90. That's a ripe old age to leave this world. The US system reimburses for all these absurd procedures. If the US adopted the same medical protocols for our elderly population, it would free up hundreds of billions that Medicare could allocate to supporting healthy elderly people that need housing and other services. |
Anonymous
The family or individual push for the medical intervention. You can sign a dnr. |
Anonymous
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OP,
Is this friend from a country that’s currently at war? Is this friend going to be arrested/executed upon reentry to her home country? What’s the story behind “can’t go home”? |