Could Trump's victory lead to saner DC crime policy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

The office is staffed by DOJ and judges are appointed for long terms, only the USA is a current Presidential appointee.

So this federal judicial staff, which was here under Trump, is causing the problem and posters are blaming the District of Columbia? And thinking Trump will fix it this time?

I suppose if there were changes at DOJ that changed the office culture or performance metrics, maybe.

If HUD is impacted in a way that curtails vouchers or instills screening and behavior requirements, that could directly help crime in upper nw and free up a lot of police resources.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

The office is staffed by DOJ and judges are appointed for long terms, only the USA is a current Presidential appointee.

Why did murders in DC increase by 72% over the course of Trump’s previous time in office?

Look at actions of Council during that time, also Racine and his restorative justice is appropriate for homicides rhetoric.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

Thanks for advocating for the end of home rule numbnuts.

I am and here’s why: I don’t want to see this group steel any more $$$ or patronize any more citizens. It started when ATVs and mopeds would keep us awake and the MPD could do nothing under the recent no chase. Nadeau laughed at the concerns. When Allen recall failed is when I made up my mind. When they put 2 felons on my recent electoral ballot is when I decided by any means necessary.

If the Council can be fully different with us having passed 83, then I will change my mind.

Guess what? 73% of the citizens agree that the Council is not fit to any purpose other than to collect their paychecks. I could care less about Trump and what he’ll do but I want to see this Council gone.

Hard to argue with above but if past is prologue, will be replaced with different corrupt grifters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

The office is staffed by DOJ and judges are appointed for long terms, only the USA is a current Presidential appointee.

Why did murders in DC increase by 72% over the course of Trump’s previous time in office?

Because the police stopped doing their job the last 6 months of 2020 because of people like you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

Thanks for advocating for the end of home rule numbnuts.

I am and here’s why: I don’t want to see this group steel any more $$$ or patronize any more citizens. It started when ATVs and mopeds would keep us awake and the MPD could do nothing under the recent no chase. Nadeau laughed at the concerns. When Allen recall failed is when I made up my mind. When they put 2 felons on my recent electoral ballot is when I decided by any means necessary.

If the Council can be fully different with us having passed 83, then I will change my mind.

Guess what? 73% of the citizens agree that the Council is not fit to any purpose other than to collect their paychecks. I could care less about Trump and what he’ll do but I want to see this Council gone.

Lol.. holy shit. Okay, so because every now and then a group of teenagers does dumbass teenager things, you think that's good enough justification to disenfranchise even further 670,000 people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

Thanks for advocating for the end of home rule numbnuts.

I am and here’s why: I don’t want to see this group steel any more $$$ or patronize any more citizens. It started when ATVs and mopeds would keep us awake and the MPD could do nothing under the recent no chase. Nadeau laughed at the concerns. When Allen recall failed is when I made up my mind. When they put 2 felons on my recent electoral ballot is when I decided by any means necessary.

If the Council can be fully different with us having passed 83, then I will change my mind.

Guess what? 73% of the citizens agree that the Council is not fit to any purpose other than to collect their paychecks. I could care less about Trump and what he’ll do but I want to see this Council gone.

Lol.. holy shit. Okay, so because every now and then a group of teenagers does dumbass teenager things, you think that's good enough justification to disenfranchise even further 670,000 people.

More murders last year than in the late 90s. That happens because the Council enabled a crimewave that led to a bloodbath.

[Anonymous]

Trump was largely incompetent in his first term and time has not made that situation better. I would expect more violence and crime in DC over the next 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

The office is staffed by DOJ and judges are appointed for long terms, only the USA is a current Presidential appointee.

So this federal judicial staff, which was here under Trump, is causing the problem and posters are blaming the District of Columbia? And thinking Trump will fix it this time?

It is shocking how little people know and care to know about local government. Just want to say whatever can help to justify the conclusion that Trump is bad and it’s always Trumps fault.

DC Superior Court Judges are recommended for nomination by the DC Judicial Nomination Commission which has 7 members. Two are appointed by the mayor, one by the Council, one by the President, two by the DC bar and by the Chief Judge of the District court.
https://jnc.dc.gov/

If your purpose is to dare Trump to take full control of criminal justice system in DC, I am sure that he would be happy to do so and then you would be crying about home rule and statehood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

The office is staffed by DOJ and judges are appointed for long terms, only the USA is a current Presidential appointee.

So this federal judicial staff, which was here under Trump, is causing the problem and posters are blaming the District of Columbia? And thinking Trump will fix it this time?

Don’t be a low information poster. Crime stats began to rise toward the end of Obama’s term. The problematic situation at DC USAO is longstanding and compounded by laws passed by Council and “kids are kids” DC AGs. Who is President or US Attorney seems to have little to do with trajectory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This, I think, is one silver lining to his victory. Local Dems and the DC USAO have completely dropped the ball on public safety. While I doubt the GOP will repeal home rule and take over DC's juvenile crime policy, can we at least expect Trump's US Attorney for DC to actually take violent crime seriously (unlike Matthew Graves)? Can we expect the District to get safer under Trump? Or is this wishful thinking?

Yes there will be troops in the street and people will be shot if they are out after curfew or without papers. Why would you think a criminal like Trump would do anything about crime? The people who voted for Trump do not want law and order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing a bit. Under Trump, DC became incredibly unsafe. Particularly on Jan 6.
I think you can see things get less safe, I would expect some capitol police to quit rather than work near his White House.

That's objectively untrue though. Crime was relatively low in the 2010s. After covid eroded social norms and progressives became convinced that prosecuting crime is racist, violence exploded. Matthew Graves has gotten better but he only prosecuted 33% of crimes in 2023. Crime and anti-social behavior are worse now than under Trump.

+ a million.

Murders in 2019 were 150 or so, last year it was nearly double.

There were 116 in 2017, Trump's first full year. I thought he was tough on crime?

Trump had increasing murders in DC EVERY YEAR he was President and his appointees ran the USAO:
2017: 116
2018: 160
2019: 164
2020: 200

Crime literally went up the entire time Trump was President when his prosecutors and judges were running the show.

Thanks for advocating for the end of home rule numbnuts.

I am and here’s why: I don’t want to see this group steel any more $$$ or patronize any more citizens. It started when ATVs and mopeds would keep us awake and the MPD could do nothing under the recent no chase. Nadeau laughed at the concerns. When Allen recall failed is when I made up my mind. When they put 2 felons on my recent electoral ballot is when I decided by any means necessary.

If the Council can be fully different with us having passed 83, then I will change my mind.

Guess what? 73% of the citizens agree that the Council is not fit to any purpose other than to collect their paychecks. I could care less about Trump and what he’ll do but I want to see this Council gone.

Lol.. holy shit. Okay, so because every now and then a group of teenagers does dumbass teenager things, you think that's good enough justification to disenfranchise even further 670,000 people.

The Democrats of this city have disenfranchised the people of this city by registering as Independent in order to capture all the At Large seats. That’s led to crazy polices which have again made us a national laughing stock. So, oh well.

[Anonymous]

Whatever, you know now. Not a good use of.
time any longer. DC Council should have done better. Here we are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This, I think, is one silver lining to his victory. Local Dems and the DC USAO have completely dropped the ball on public safety. While I doubt the GOP will repeal home rule and take over DC's juvenile crime policy, can we at least expect Trump's US Attorney for DC to actually take violent crime seriously (unlike Matthew Graves)? Can we expect the District to get safer under Trump? Or is this wishful thinking?

Yes there will be troops in the street and people will be shot if they are out after curfew or without papers. Why would you think a criminal like Trump would do anything about crime? The people who voted for Trump do not want law and order.

Can’t be much worse and it wasn’t working. What did you think would happen?

[Anonymous]

People are missing the point. We don’t expect Trump to fix anything. Sticking it to the Council is good enough for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are missing the point. We don’t expect Trump to fix anything. Sticking it to the Council is good enough for me.

I think we can reasonably expect Trump to require meaningful penalties for crime, imposed swiftly and consistently, without regard to whether the criminals have a certain skin color, grew up in poverty, are uneducated, come from broken families and or from families which fail to model responsible behaviors, or have other backgrounds. The focus will be on whether someone is a criminal. If they are, penalties apply, not excuses which justify an absence of meaningful penalties.

That's not to say that social conditions don't contribute to crime, but a good start would be suppressing crime which does exist, even if it'd also be good to simultaneously try to address root contributors so that over time perhaps criminal behavior would decline. Until it does, though, it's insufficient to excuse it and to provide an environment where it can continue.