One Direction's Liam... dead at 31

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His girlfriend had been there with him and then left on the 14th (Monday). Her leaving could have been planned or it could be there were also relationship problems as well.

I have never really understood why men get so much hate for wanting their partner to have an abortion as they don’t want to be a father. Women want to have abortions and do have abortion all the time because they don’t want to be a mother. Only women can act on it but both have the same feelings.

When men can get pregnant and have the babies then they have a say. If he forced her against her will you don't have a problem with that?

There's a bit of a gap between having a say and forcing someone against their will.

He threatened to leave her if she didn’t get the abortion, but then left her anyway.

DP and that’s still not forcing someone against their will.

[Anonymous]

Things were NOT going well for him in the days leading up to his suicide

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13972219/Liam-Payne-dropped-label-Universal-Music-death.html?ico=related-replace

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His girlfriend had been there with him and then left on the 14th (Monday). Her leaving could have been planned or it could be there were also relationship problems as well.

I have never really understood why men get so much hate for wanting their partner to have an abortion as they don’t want to be a father. Women want to have abortions and do have abortion all the time because they don’t want to be a mother. Only women can act on it but both have the same feelings.

When men can get pregnant and have the babies then they have a say. If he forced her against her will you don't have a problem with that?

There's a bit of a gap between having a say and forcing someone against their will.

He threatened to leave her if she didn’t get the abortion, but then left her anyway.

DP and that’s still not forcing someone against their will.

So that’s “having a say”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are photos of the room available so quickly? Is that the norm for when a celebrity dies?

It's the norm when anyone died other than in a medical setting (hospital/nursing home) by accident to take pictures, celebrity or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[img]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His girlfriend had been there with him and then left on the 14th (Monday). Her leaving could have been planned or it could be there were also relationship problems as well.

I have never really understood why men get so much hate for wanting their partner to have an abortion as they don’t want to be a father. Women want to have abortions and do have abortion all the time because they don’t want to be a mother. Only women can act on it but both have the same feelings.

When men can get pregnant and have the babies then they have a say. If he forced her against her will you don't have a problem with that?

There's a bit of a gap between having a say and forcing someone against their will.

He threatened to leave her if she didn’t get the abortion, but then left her anyway.

DP and that’s still not forcing someone against their will.

Welcome to the 21st century. Its called "coercive behavior"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How are photos of the room available so quickly? Is that the norm for when a celebrity dies?

It's the norm when anyone died other than in a medical setting (hospital/nursing home) by accident to take pictures, celebrity or not.

Those are not police photos those have been taken by staff at the hotel and sold.

[Anonymous]

I just want to clarify for those who are unclear:

There are two women being talked about as Liam's girlfriend.

#1 - Maya Henry from Texas. She is his EX. They dated for a few years, they were engaged (possibly twice), she alleges in a book that she got pregnant with Liam, and he forced her, a la Justin and Britney, to have an at-home abortion and he left her home alone while she bled to the point of needing an ambulance to the hospital. Her book either just came out or is about to and has been promoting that in the last week. She was saying Liam weaponized his 1D fan base to harass her. Some of the 1D fan base is now saying she drove Liam to his death and some are worried she will harm herself because of his death.

#2 - Kate. An influencer from Florida, she was traveling around with Liam as of late. They'd meant to go to Argentina (to see Niall perform) for five days. She stayed there with him for two weeks before saying she needed to go home and left a couple of days before Liam's death. The day Liam died he posted a video of the two of them from a few days prior when she was still in Argentina.

[Anonymous]

Oddly the Maya Henry book is supposedly fiction but based on her life. A fictionalized version of real life events. Really blurs the line when you are talking about other public figures in it. Either write fiction or non fiction. If the abortion story is from the book - could be fact or fiction or embellished fact. Gives her an out as if challenged on anything she can say it was fiction.

And while not specific to her, I think these books about my life written by young 20 somethings are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to clarify for those who are unclear:

There are two women being talked about as Liam's girlfriend.

#1 - Maya Henry from Texas. She is his EX. They dated for a few years, they were engaged (possibly twice), she alleges in a book that she got pregnant with Liam, and he forced her, a la Justin and Britney, to have an at-home abortion and he left her home alone while she bled to the point of needing an ambulance to the hospital. Her book either just came out or is about to and has been promoting that in the last week. She was saying Liam weaponized his 1D fan base to harass her. Some of the 1D fan base is now saying she drove Liam to his death and some are worried she will harm herself because of his death.

#2 - Kate. An influencer from Florida, she was traveling around with Liam as of late. They'd meant to go to Argentina (to see Niall perform) for five days. She stayed there with him for two weeks before saying she needed to go home and left a couple of days before Liam's death. The day Liam died he posted a video of the two of them from a few days prior when she was still in Argentina.

He had been dating Kate Cassidy for two years. She wasn’t someone just hanging around him recently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His ex Maya said recently in an interview that a la Justin and Britney, Liam had her get an abortion at home and left her alone during it. I would not be surprised if Liam got drunk upon seeing that and either fell or jumped because of it.

I feel so bad for Liam's son that he has to grow up knowing this is his dad's legacy, that the highlight of his life was One Direction when he was in his very early 20's.

It is going to tear Niall up that he was the last close friend to have seen Liam and didn't see this coming so he could prevent it.

You can’t prevent addicts from self-destructing. Usually the best thing to do is cut them off and stop trying to help. They have to want to help themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oddly the Maya Henry book is supposedly fiction but based on her life. A fictionalized version of real life events. Really blurs the line when you are talking about other public figures in it. Either write fiction or non fiction. If the abortion story is from the book - could be fact or fiction or embellished fact. Gives her an out as if challenged on anything she can say it was fiction.

And while not specific to her, I think these books about my life written by young 20 somethings are ridiculous.

She has spoken out openly on her own social media and on podcasts about this and the truth of her story. There’s nothing to guess about, she very, very clearly states that he pressured her into having an abortion. So odd that you’re trying to shame a woman for writing a fictional Book based on her own experiences. It’s what many authors do.

[Anonymous]

Lots of details here from a hotel guest

https://nypost.com/2024/10/18/entertainment/liam-payne-told-hotel-guests-being-in-a-boy-band-left-him-so-f-ked-up-minutes-before-falling-to-his-death-report/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of details here from a hotel guest

https://nypost.com/2024/10/18/entertainment/liam-payne-told-hotel-guests-being-in-a-boy-band-left-him-so-f-ked-up-minutes-before-falling-to-his-death-report/

All those details are from "Rebecca who works in IT in DC"

[Anonymous]

Kate Cassidy calls herself an influencer because it sounds better than what she really is, a waitress.

[Anonymous]

I think its an awful thing to have happened but he was responsible for himself. The tragedy is his little boy - from that perspective I really fault Liam. When you have a child, it's not just about you anymore. He should have stayed off drugs/alcohol for his son even if not for himself. That's what caused his death. I would be angry at him not sad - his poor son has to live without his dad.