One Direction's Liam... dead at 31

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Nobody deserves to die from playing stupid games though. And certainly a little boy doesn't deserve to be deprived of his father.

Maybe he should’ve thought of his son when he was harassing his ex-girlfriend.

[Anonymous]

Went through Apple Music and only recognized one of their songs. Not sure why this got so much coverage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went through Apple Music and only recognized one of their songs. Not sure why this got so much coverage.

You aren’t the demographic. Easily one of the biggest boy bands ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Nobody deserves to die from playing stupid games though. And certainly a little boy doesn't deserve to be deprived of his father.

It has nothing to do with what is or is not deserved. Life is fragile, and when you play fast and loose with your own health and safety and that of others, death is a foreseeable potential outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Nobody deserves to die from playing stupid games though. And certainly a little boy doesn't deserve to be deprived of his father.

That’s not what was being said – I’m a different poster by the way. He was abusive toward his ex and forced her into an abortion. He and his friends harassed her to keep quiet when he was the abuser. He played those games. She put it out in the open as she should have. She is not to blame here.

That is Maya's side of things. It is her word. Not even her word against his, because he's not alive to share his side of the story. What she is saying is basically lifted right from Britney Spears' story. It also doesn't seem to go with anything anyone else has said about Liam's character. So it's just her word. I don't disbelieve her, but am skeptical. We'll never know for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Nobody deserves to die from playing stupid games though. And certainly a little boy doesn't deserve to be deprived of his father.

It has nothing to do with what is or is not deserved. Life is fragile, and when you play fast and loose with your own health and safety and that of others, death is a foreseeable potential outcome.

Addiction doesn't let you think in that clear-headed way though. That's what addiction is - a force stronger than everything else.

[Anonymous]

Another death due to drugs. Sad for sure how many musicians die from drug related causes. It’s a hard industry for sure.

Seems like it was a bit of a fluke fall. He was out of his mind on drugs. I saw an article saying there were no reflexive responses noted in the autopsy which usually means someone is unconscious as people reflexively put their arms out or do something responsive when they fall. He had passed out earlier in the hotel lobby and one account said he had seizures at one point. The hotel staff kept returning him to his room due to the impact on other guests. Just a serious of unfortunate events.

All the tributes and stories from his band mates when he was young seem to describe him as a very kind and sensitive and lost soul. He seemed to struggle with a lot of insecurity and not feeling loved or good enough. I wonder if the music industry is especially hard on those people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently he was dropped by his publicist and record label due to his drug use just days before this.

The combination of legal issues, and his career plummeting and likely other stressors, his addiction and poor mental health, he was alone as his girlfriend had gone home - and then the immediate trigger of being highly intoxicated and he jumped.

He was clearly in a crisis mode. I wish someone from the hotel had stayed with him until police or medical personnel had arrived. Maybe they could have prevented him from accessing the balcony. Yes, I realize it wasn’t their responsibility but he was clearly under the influence and a danger to himself.

lol. Right... an underpaid staff member should have stayed in the private ROOM of an out of control and drugged out d-list celebrity who is trashing the space with complete disregard for himself and those around him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Nobody deserves to die from playing stupid games though. And certainly a little boy doesn't deserve to be deprived of his father.

That’s not what was being said – I’m a different poster by the way. He was abusive toward his ex and forced her into an abortion. He and his friends harassed her to keep quiet when he was the abuser. He played those games. She put it out in the open as she should have. She is not to blame here.

That is Maya's side of things. It is her word. Not even her word against his, because he's not alive to share his side of the story. What she is saying is basically lifted right from Britney Spears' story. It also doesn't seem to go with anything anyone else has said about Liam's character. So it's just her word. I don't disbelieve her, but am skeptical. We'll never know for sure.

Keep your head buried in the sand, but she had a cease and desist order, which means she had to provide evidence of the harassment. It’s not her word against his. There is evidence she was being harassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Nobody deserves to die from playing stupid games though. And certainly a little boy doesn't deserve to be deprived of his father.

That’s not what was being said – I’m a different poster by the way. He was abusive toward his ex and forced her into an abortion. He and his friends harassed her to keep quiet when he was the abuser. He played those games. She put it out in the open as she should have. She is not to blame here.

That is Maya's side of things. It is her word. Not even her word against his, because he's not alive to share his side of the story. What she is saying is basically lifted right from Britney Spears' story. It also doesn't seem to go with anything anyone else has said about Liam's character. So it's just her word. I don't disbelieve her, but am skeptical. We'll never know for sure.

NP. It’s also okay to let things play out through appropriate channels (law enforcement, legal system) and not be an attention seeker broadcasting everything through social media

[Anonymous]

Some of you truly lack the empathy gene. This young man clearly struggled with addiction and even recent attempts at recovery didn’t work. He has a young son left behind as well as a family who tried their best to help him. For those that have never heard of One Direction, that doesn’t mean the quick rise to fame and fortune didn’t happen or that they weren’t a huge phenomenon in the 2012-16 time period.

This should be just one more reminder of how tragic life can be when young people rise to fame quickly and have access to all sorts of drugs. It’s truly sad that even with a loving family he could not break free from addiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of you truly lack the empathy gene. This young man clearly struggled with addiction and even recent attempts at recovery didn’t work. He has a young son left behind as well as a family who tried their best to help him. For those that have never heard of One Direction, that doesn’t mean the quick rise to fame and fortune didn’t happen or that they weren’t a huge phenomenon in the 2012-16 time period.

This should be just one more reminder of how tragic life can be when young people rise to fame quickly and have access to all sorts of drugs. It’s truly sad that even with a loving family he could not break free from addiction.

Two things can be true. He was a talented performer. He was also an addict who abused his former girlfriend. People want to make him a martyr, which is absolutely insane. Why do we give these entertainers athletes, etc. a pass? If this man had abused your sister, your daughter, your cousin, your best friend,You would very likely see this differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zayn Malik just postponed the US leg of his tour to after the new year because of Liam's death.

Everyone thought he was crazy to quit 1D when he walked away during their heyday but he may have saved his own life.

I will be surprised if he ever goes on tour. He was anorexic and clearly struggling toward the end of his time in the band.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-37833903

That was a long time ago. He's grown a lot and gotten in control of himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you truly lack the empathy gene. This young man clearly struggled with addiction and even recent attempts at recovery didn’t work. He has a young son left behind as well as a family who tried their best to help him. For those that have never heard of One Direction, that doesn’t mean the quick rise to fame and fortune didn’t happen or that they weren’t a huge phenomenon in the 2012-16 time period.

This should be just one more reminder of how tragic life can be when young people rise to fame quickly and have access to all sorts of drugs. It’s truly sad that even with a loving family he could not break free from addiction.

Two things can be true. He was a talented performer. He was also an addict who abused his former girlfriend. People want to make him a martyr, which is absolutely insane. Why do we give these entertainers athletes, etc. a pass? If this man had abused your sister, your daughter, your cousin, your best friend,You would very likely see this differently.

He blew up her phone while high - I don't really count that as being abusive. Annoying - yes, harrassing - sure. But I don't think using abusive as one general all encompassing term helps anyone. Also her father is a personal injury lawyer who has made millions from suing and sending cease and desist and whatever he can to make money. And he has done well - he spend 6 million dollars on Maya's quinceanera. I take it with a grain of salt when a personal injury lawyer sends out a cease and desist because he doesn't want his daughter's ex calling her phone. Not really abusive in my view. Was he obnoxious while on drugs - yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you truly lack the empathy gene. This young man clearly struggled with addiction and even recent attempts at recovery didn’t work. He has a young son left behind as well as a family who tried their best to help him. For those that have never heard of One Direction, that doesn’t mean the quick rise to fame and fortune didn’t happen or that they weren’t a huge phenomenon in the 2012-16 time period.

This should be just one more reminder of how tragic life can be when young people rise to fame quickly and have access to all sorts of drugs. It’s truly sad that even with a loving family he could not break free from addiction.

Two things can be true. He was a talented performer. He was also an addict who abused his former girlfriend. People want to make him a martyr, which is absolutely insane. Why do we give these entertainers athletes, etc. a pass? If this man had abused your sister, your daughter, your cousin, your best friend,You would very likely see this differently.

He blew up her phone while high - I don't really count that as being abusive. Annoying - yes, harrassing - sure. But I don't think using abusive as one general all encompassing term helps anyone. Also her father is a personal injury lawyer who has made millions from suing and sending cease and desist and whatever he can to make money. And he has done well - he spend 6 million dollars on Maya's quinceanera. I take it with a grain of salt when a personal injury lawyer sends out a cease and desist because he doesn't want his daughter's ex calling her phone. Not really abusive in my view. Was he obnoxious while on drugs - yes.

Blowing up someone’s phone who has asked you stop, and continuing to harass them is absolutely abusive behavior.

Stop gaslighting. Being “on drugs” does not excuse ANY bad behavior. At all.