VEL 2025 Black Division

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I too hope the mods do something about this P**dance nonsense. I would never want my children to be exposed to such foul language.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

From the limited amount I saw last year and on Saturday, I would think they have JAG- just a guy(s).
Nothing stood out, serviceable if you have an above average D. Not what Battlefield had last year or even close.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

From the limited amount I saw last year and on Saturday, I would think they have JAG- just a guy(s).
Nothing stood out, serviceable if you have an above average D. Not what Battlefield had last year or even close.

That’s my take too. But it seems like their D has taken a couple graduation hits. So to my mind unless you see someone take a big step up the goalie situation goes from problematic to serious

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

From the limited amount I saw last year and on Saturday, I would think they have JAG- just a guy(s).
Nothing stood out, serviceable if you have an above average D. Not what Battlefield had last year or even close.

That’s my take too. But it seems like their D has taken a couple graduation hits. So to my mind unless you see someone take a big step up the goalie situation goes from problematic to serious

Only other way to hide a suspect goalie is to have a good Fogo and wings. I don’t see this from the warhawks either. Maybe they need to slow down the game and play to win close one. I believe they can do that.

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INDY is very solid in the cage.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here and we are now scheduled for Week 2:
Battlefield v BI
Madison v PVI
Robinson v Yorktown
Independence v Langley

Still thinking of how to really apply the running clock and 2 half structure, so +/- is a better feel for me then final score.
Picks:

Battlefield over BI (+3) 10-7- Bobcats stepped up and got a nice win v. Robinson. BI lost big to PVI, but that was not unexpected.

PVI over Madison (+5) 10-5- PVI took care of business last week and expect them to do the same each week in VEL. Madison was much too close to Indy. A long slow slide from their past state championship? They just don't have the ability to stay with a private any longer.

Robinson over Yorktown (+5) 10-5- Robinson finds themselves with a loss for the first time in over a year and expect them to respond. Yorktown laid an egg v Langley and expect it to continue this week.

Independence v Langley- off the board. Not making a pick as I don't care and not to care to read troll comments.

Power Rankings week 1:
1) PVI
2) Battlefield
3) Robinson
4) Langley
5) Madison
6) BI
7) Yorktown
Again, not including the team from Ashburn. Don't want to feed the trolls and will continue not feeding them until they quit disturbing the thread.

Since you won't I will, Langley is going to kill this team. As many of you have pointed out Langley is not missing many guys in VEL. If they continue to have most of their team they will slaughter this Pendence team. Dence is not going to keep up, they have 2-3 really solid players but by in large they don't play well with the rest of their team. So you heard it here first Ence will get embarrassed this week by the Saxons

OP here- I specifically left Independence out of the above recap, as I previously stated. I have no love or hate for the program and only want to promote discussion and positive debate about a good teams (all of the Black teams are), a good league (VEL) and sport we all find interesting.
I decided that I will not post about Indy, until the person above stops the hate for one program, refers to them by Independence or the school accepted Indy and just clogging of the thread with obnoxious comments. I will not include and Indy or their opponent info until a week has past without this behavior on the thread.

Also, I went ahead and made a report to the mods on this board to ask them to kindly prevent this person from continuing. I really don't expect them to do much but pray they do something.

If nothing is done by the mods and this behavior continues, I will need to evaluate any time I spend posting this and other content.

I find it very sad that one person, most likely a child, can ruin something that many can enjoy.

HAHAHA Wow. Would not disciplining players who act with no class, and take cheap shots at other teams, be classified as childish behavior? Because that's what the Independence program does. Until things start to change in that program, other people and posters will not respect the Tigers. Respect is something that is earned by doing things the right way. Most of the area, due to the actions of their coaching staff and administration, look at Independence as a joke and descrace to high school sports. Because of that, they are treated as a joke on this forum.

This thread is not about the Independence program. This is not about class, cheap shots, or changing the Indy program. This is not about criticizing one program.
If you would like to start a thread to that effect be my guest.

This thread is about he VEL Black division for 2024. While that includes Indy that is not the sole focus.
IF you truly feel that they are a disreputable program and childish, why does that give you the right to act the same. Be bigger person.

Yes, if you are the "pendence" person, I do hope the mods take action here.
If you are not, you spoke your peace and now take your ax to grind elsewhere.

What you fail you realize pal is the that their is no singular Pendence person. If the moderators were suspend or ban everyone using that name for Independence high school 80% of the active users on this thread would be gone.

[Anonymous]

My name is Pendence, for we are many

[Anonymous]

OK folks - OP here

I put in another private request to have this thread cleaned up and the annoying parties removed.
Also, I asked the mods if they are unable or unwilling to block the offending posters to lock and close the thread.

As the OP I thought we could have an adult discussion of the VEL Black division. This does not seem to be the case.

I am not going to spend more time on this and hope the mods take appropriate and requested action.

If this thread remains open, best of luck to you. It will not be me posting anything.

MODS- to follow up on my private message to you, please remove the offending parties or close and lock this thread.

[Anonymous]

OP again- well its seems like the mods are listening a bit.
The last coupe of posts have been removed from view. Thank you mods.

I do hope this will continue and the offending parties warned and or blocked so there can be a productive discussion.

Also, I hope this serves as a reminder to all to act and post responsibly.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

From the limited amount I saw last year and on Saturday, I would think they have JAG- just a guy(s).
Nothing stood out, serviceable if you have an above average D. Not what Battlefield had last year or even close.

That’s my take too. But it seems like their D has taken a couple graduation hits. So to my mind unless you see someone take a big step up the goalie situation goes from problematic to serious

Only other way to hide a suspect goalie is to have a good Fogo and wings. I don’t see this from the warhawks either. Maybe they need to slow down the game and play to win close one. I believe they can do that.

You might be right. Luckily for Madison they have a long runway to figure it out. Does anyone have a rundown on the Concorde district? From what I know they’re pretty much the only team in that district

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

From the limited amount I saw last year and on Saturday, I would think they have JAG- just a guy(s).
Nothing stood out, serviceable if you have an above average D. Not what Battlefield had last year or even close.

That’s my take too. But it seems like their D has taken a couple graduation hits. So to my mind unless you see someone take a big step up the goalie situation goes from problematic to serious

Only other way to hide a suspect goalie is to have a good Fogo and wings. I don’t see this from the warhawks either. Maybe they need to slow down the game and play to win close one. I believe they can do that.

You might be right. Luckily for Madison they have a long runway to figure it out. Does anyone have a rundown on the Concorde district? From what I know they’re pretty much the only team in that district

Madison will be fine. They have a first team all-region pole and first team all-region SSDM coming back and a couple of other 2025 poles who are pretty good. Goalie has two years of varsity experience and was the starter on the state championship team in 2023 I believe. He has played in plenty of big games and is good enough.

Rest of Concorde was pretty bad last season. Chantilly was probably the next best but I can't see them taking a big leap. Oakton was very reliant on that #3 and he graduated. Would guess Madison will run away with it again.

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They’re the only team competing for states recently but Oakton, Westfield, Chantilly, SL are on par with Herndon, Hayfield, W&L, West Po, West Spring. So they can’t fall back to far and still breeze through. Plus their Region has 3 high quality opponents. I think they’ll be fine as their Goalie has been playing Varsity for a while and with all the dominant goalies graduating I think he’ll be one of the best in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:OK folks - OP here

I put in another private request to have this thread cleaned up and the annoying parties removed.
Also, I asked the mods if they are unable or unwilling to block the offending posters to lock and close the thread.

As the OP I thought we could have an adult discussion of the VEL Black division. This does not seem to be the case.

I am not going to spend more time on this and hope the mods take appropriate and requested action.

If this thread remains open, best of luck to you. It will not be me posting anything.

MODS- to follow up on my private message to you, please remove the offending parties or close and lock this thread.

Womp womp we are going to miss you bud. Our discussion is much better without you anyways.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison will be fine. They have plenty returning on both sides topped off by 2 CNU senior commits. They are a state title contender in football as is BF and have kids not showing up for VEL. Langley has the most complete team with their fall roster. As always, VEL and Fall Brawl are good for reps but TSO is usually the best indicator for spring season once all kids are done with fall sports and get a full day of full field lax.

PP here. Do you have an opinion on the Madison goalie situation? My take is the the loss of Madison’s fantastic LSM will put way more pressure on the goalie.

From the limited amount I saw last year and on Saturday, I would think they have JAG- just a guy(s).
Nothing stood out, serviceable if you have an above average D. Not what Battlefield had last year or even close.

That’s my take too. But it seems like their D has taken a couple graduation hits. So to my mind unless you see someone take a big step up the goalie situation goes from problematic to serious

Only other way to hide a suspect goalie is to have a good Fogo and wings. I don’t see this from the warhawks either. Maybe they need to slow down the game and play to win close one. I believe they can do that.

You might be right. Luckily for Madison they have a long runway to figure it out. Does anyone have a rundown on the Concorde district? From what I know they’re pretty much the only team in that district

Madison will be fine. They have a first team all-region pole and first team all-region SSDM coming back and a couple of other 2025 poles who are pretty good. Goalie has two years of varsity experience and was the starter on the state championship team in 2023 I believe. He has played in plenty of big games and is good enough.

Rest of Concorde was pretty bad last season. Chantilly was probably the next best but I can't see them taking a big leap. Oakton was very reliant on that #3 and he graduated. Would guess Madison will run away with it again.

PVI crushed Madison at Vel today. I believe the score was 15-0. Despite the score I thought that Madison looked good defensively - solid defense, fairly good clears, even a fair amount of caused turnovers. The Madison goalies were not super stars but did a servicible job.

But the Madison offense was practically nonexistent- i’d love to see the stats for the day but from my point of view it seems like Madison had less than 10 shots on goal. Of those no more than three were on cage and none with enough power to get by the goalie. But more devastating than that, the Madison offense turned the ball over so quickly that the defense hardly had a chance to get back into position after a clear.